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3 hours ago, enzo172014 said:
Brother, there isn't a single rule that states how u should buy dittos properly, they know how big the shiny hunting community has become over the years, and in general the shiny hunting community that have been doing this for quite some time barely complained about anything.
- They just created the rule as per your post. I am not sure if this should be written somewhere else. Maybe ask them to write it somewhere else instead of throwing tantrums like a spoiled brat.
Does their suggestion resolve the issue? Somewhat yes, but for the long run its better to have a feature like this, to not rely on players following their (unwritten) rule and avoid getting scammed, in a more convenient way. They need to understand that PokeMMO is growing as a playerbase and as such, this method is becoming quite outdated.
- IT RESOLVES THE ISSUE 100% if 100% of the traders can follow the SIMPLE RULE they have set. Don't dismiss a working method because you have thought of something better. That is very immature.
And that it doesn't harm the community either? Is quite laughable, u probably haven't played PokeMMO long enough to see how the community reacts to being denied something like that, especially when the whole game revolves around economy.
- Like children throwing tantrums when they don't get what they want? Do you think they can add a feature done within 2 days?
There's literally more positive points on why they should add a feature like this instead of not.
Again, I didn't say the idea is bad. I said I WOULD WANT IT AS WELL. My point is that you should not dismiss the working "rule" set by mod's.
Idk where u think anybody disagreed with that it doesnt solve the issue btw,
Your reply to me said "it does not solve the issue because 1/50 will follow it."
no one said anything about it but, they rather thought that the ticket reply isn't how they should handle these kinds of situations, and are dissatisfied that they put all blame on the ditto buyer when it comes to it.I would agree that the reply was somewhat worded poorly. This is what they must have meant to say. Here is a more poorly worded reply that is easily understood.
"IF you are scammed again, it will be your negligence already because they have provided you with a more secure way of trading. Since you didn't follow a simple rule, it is already your fault."
Ur literally arguing for the sake of seeking for an argument, no point of trying to convince u that the points the community are making are valid points.
No one said a feature like this should be added in 2 days, LITERALLY NO ONE, Im saying that this method they're suggesting for the long run wont do anything good, I swear try to read.
I dont know how u literally argue with me when the whole point is that their method isn't foolproof, especially for the community that grows bigger this suggestion would make things 100x better for both staff and the community regarding this. And as such, they don't have to tell people to follow their (unwritten) rule AFTER they got scammed already. The whole point is to prevent scams in the first place of happening, not to lecture people after they got scammed.
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8 hours ago, enzo172014 said:
Majority including me will also want ditto box trading feature. Who does not want an easier way to trade Dittos. Of course everyone will want that.
My main point here is, why would you say the "pay $x per trade" is not solving the issue? If you use this method, you will NEVER be scammed because the trade will not happen unless you are checking the trade details (w/c definitely is your fault). Thus, resolving the ditto scam issue.
1 out of 50 will do the pay per trade option? I don't think so. But if your numbers (WITHOUT BASIS) is correct, it is the fault of the 49 people's fault they were scammed. It is not the dev's fault if the players cannot or refuse to follow a simple rule.
Lastly, it does not harm the community if they don't restore the scammed money. I think, it will make the community better because the community will be more resilient to correct and just suggestions they are providing. You can argue here that the dev's are not always correct but they are correct this time.
Brother, there isn't a single rule that states how u should buy dittos properly, they know how big the shiny hunting community has become over the years, and in general the shiny hunting community that have been doing this for quite some time barely complained about anything.
Does their suggestion resolve the issue? Somewhat yes, but for the long run its better to have a feature like this, to not rely on players following their (unwritten) rule and avoid getting scammed, in a more convenient way. They need to understand that PokeMMO is growing as a playerbase and as such, this method is becoming quite outdated.
And that it doesn't harm the community either? Is quite laughable, u probably haven't played PokeMMO long enough to see how the community reacts to being denied something like that, especially when the whole game revolves around economy.
There's literally more positive points on why they should add a feature like this instead of not.
Idk where u think anybody disagreed with that it doesnt solve the issue btw, no one said anything about it but, they rather thought that the ticket reply isn't how they should handle these kinds of situations, and are dissatisfied that they put all blame on the ditto buyer when it comes to it.
You know... the main reason as to why I also made this suggestion & to counter their argument with solid points, especially those from other players and hopefully make their voices be heard too. -
3 hours ago, enzo172014 said:
I actually agree with the devs on this. What happened to copy and paste?
There is no real harm in an extra click of the mouse and pressing 2 buttons on your keyboard to ensure your transaction is safe.
If you are on the buying side, copy $x Yen and paste it every trade while the other player is adding the dittos. That will not be very hard. Unless you're playing on mobile.
This also, DOES NOT slow you down. You can add the yen while the other player is adding the dittos.
All I can see here is people pushing for a feature they wanted (w/c is good and I would want as well btw.) while disregarding their common senses.
Genuinely I dont mind when people think differently on this suggestion, but did u read the other comments and their opinions. All of them were different and very understandable.
Its like I stated, a way to solve this problem (the increase of reports regarding ditto scams) could be resolved due to this. Its a feature that helps BOTH PARTIES, cause I sure as hell know that majority of the players still will pay upfront instead of "x amount per 5 dittos".
I personally don't believe its justified of higher staff to expect a player to change how they purchase stuff, instead of trying to come up with the solution themselves, cause lets say 1 of the 50 players would only pay per 5 dittos, that still wouldn't resolve the main problem at hand.
In the end they'd only do harm to the community by refusing to restore scammed money, as shown in the ticket reply that has been send to me and others. Its not an selfish suggestion, I agree its a quality of life change, but it's for both parties. -
On 1/19/2024 at 3:13 PM, Quinzy18 said:
How would the full-box trading work? In a trade you select an option to trade an entire PC box instead of the specific Pokemon. You select a box to trade with that person, they select the money, bah dah bing bah dah boom you're done. However, you realize after the trade you selected the box next to the intended trading box, and it had all of your shinies/OU/storyline/2012/other valuable mons in it, because that's how you organize your boxes. You ask them to trade you back but they refuse. You put in a request to the devs for help. But because of this time-saving full-box trading feature, you felt confident that you wouldn't be scammed, so you didn't grab screenshots of verbal confirmation of what exactly you were trading, have no log of it, and didn't take a recording of the transaction. How are the devs to check that the shinies or other mons weren't part of the intended trade? I don't know, but it sounds a lot more high stakes and stressful than the current situation to me.
Please leave other ideas about how to mitigate this issue or other issues the devs may cross when looking into this feature. I'd love to see this feature implemented, but we and the devs should consider the potential problems that could arise from such an implementation. If we can help them, all the more power to use as the users of the feature.
The main problem is that they might refuse the money refund in the future once u submitted evidence, if that wasn't the case this suggestion wouldn't have been made.
To counter their "Dont pay upfront, pay per 5 dittos" is why I suggested this idea.
Nonetheless, refusing money is just not right to the person who got scammed, provided the evidence AND being lectured. When they are (so to say) the victim in this situation yet being treated like they're doing the wrong thing by trusting an other player who had malicious intentions from the start.
(especially since we're the one also getting rid of those scammers by reporting them)
My idea was that ur able to see the contents of the box before trading it, or when u might trade more valuable Pokemon that ud get a pop-up like the ones u get when u try to delete them. -
Try out Johto safari, has pretty good spawns. It does rotate but that's the only "annoying" thing about it.
The (rare) ones that are permanent in the Johto safari are
Kangaskhan - Wasteland
Lapras - Rocky beach
Mr.Mime - Forest
The (rare) pokemon that go through a cycle are
Skorupi - Wasteland
Shroomish - Savannah
Metang - Mountain
Beldum - Forest
Bagon - Swamp
Carnivine - Marshland
Furret - Swamp
Riolu - Meadow
Vigoroth - Peak
Farfetch'd - Wetland
Croagunk - Marshland
Chansey - Meadow
Shuckle - Marshland
and many more, but those others u can encounter via hordes already. -
Happy new year, best of luck to my fellow shiny hunters.
- Pokeroocket, Bestfriends and PinkWings
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Can we expect that this shiny modifier is gonna be a thing for every xMas event now, and if so how likely is the possibility that u guys add it for all other events like LNY, Halloween & Anni.
That u guys were short on time and did this as a last minute resort is clear as day, but it seems that many people quite like the change. @Kyu
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The past few weeks, even months I've noticed an increase in scams regarding Ditto boxes.
I've also been scammed a couple of times now, but a few days ago this was the reply given to me.
The same reply has been given to many of my friends, teammates and others.
Where as I try to understand where they're coming from as SGM+ etc. and that these types of reports take up a lot of time for them. I feel like for long-term the "Pay X amount for 5 dittos" is very inconvenient and wont get rid of all scams regarding these type of transactions, cause majority will still pay full price upfront.
Refusing to restore money that has been scammed in the future too will make people not want to report them anymore, cause whats the gain of them reporting if they wont get their money back. It's a give and take situation.
I can see these type of scams being resolved by adding a feature where we can trade FULL boxes only for X amount of $.
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Love the idea 🙂
- awkways and Ninnetales
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Ive met a few of good friends on MMO in the past few years so tagging them all would be too time consuming, the ones that introduced me to shunting and made the game more enjoyable were @PinkWings, @Ploegy and @TheBloo for me.
So I'd like to thank them for the past years and may the shiny rate be fair to us.
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over 5 months dry, hunting skitty, burmy and lileep..........
got a dog (((((((((((((((((::::::::::::::::::::::::
Phase 1 of skitty
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On 11/10/2022 at 11:45 AM, SodaNaranja said:
Pause everything
NEKO ARC PAINT CHRISTMAS FOR EVERYONE
If you want to participate just drop your character namecard and i'll add you to the christmas party
Ps: I'll basically be adding everyone to the drawing and i'll show the end result whenever i feel like stopping, it's free so please join
Ps2: I might draw you in christmas~y clothing or bread so beware, BEWARECute idea, can I join too?
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2 hours ago, KoltorTheGreat said:
Yes an exception would be made, especially since there's no way for them to get it before the event and have it have the correct date/time on it. I also don't expect anyone to go for those since there's no incentive, but you never know I suppose
Thanks for the clarification, and I asked bc I've been reviving fossils for a while now. Was curious if I could keep doing the shunt and still participate.
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one question regarding the following, what if it were to be a Egg, Revived fossil or Game corner shiny. Those wont show up in ur battle feed. Im assuming those are the ones where an exception would be made?
On 9/29/2022 at 12:25 PM, KoltorTheGreat said:If submitting before 1st-3rd have been claimed, you must include a screenshot of your Battle feed (No exceptions will be made)
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I'd like to join too please
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Spellbook/Grimoire/Necronomicon
Something to add to the Elfbot set (not necessarily for them specifically, but since most typings have been used already I thought it would be nice to add something to the collection), I used the Fire Elfbot color palette to make this book. This one is based on the fire typing (obviously) with an triggerable effect, for example the water one would have water dripping down, psychic one would have a purple glow, electric would have static as triggerable effects.
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I have decided to start shiny hunting Lileep by only reviving them.
I need a lot of Root Fossils in preperation for this, I've been trying to snipe them from GTL but they get more expensive everytime.
I will buy your Root Fossil(s) for 16k per fossil.
Leave a message behind if u'd like to sell yours to me.
Or whisper / DM me at Poratne (ingame) or Poratne#3457 (discord)
(Dont come offering me other fossils, I will not buy those)
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Literally not throwing a tantrum, if anyone is, its u. Disagreeing and neglecting the same thing I've said over and over and over again unwillingly to listen the other side of the story and not accepting that ur in the wrong.
You cant seem to grasp me saying that yes it helps but not for a long time. Which I already said in my previous statements but okay, reading is hard I know.
No one is dismissing the mods suggestion, its literally you dismissing the whole point of this suggestion and saying it is okay for staff to do the bare minimum for this.
(I do appreciate what they do for the community, dont get me wrong. I just dont see them eye to eye on this matter)
They struggle with tickets regarding Ditto box scams cause of how many they receive and that adding this suggestion would help them majorly, especially so they wont have to rely on the seller or buyer. If they wanna lessen the whole ditto box scam situation they're better off going this way instead of expecting everyone to do as they say.
To prevent scamming as a whole regarding these kinds of trades, this suggestion is the most effective and healthiest approach.
Stop trying to look smart when its not working. I've debunked your arguments in every post at this moment, just accept that this is the better approach for them to go to in the future.