semjon

... And immediatley throw it in an oven to burn it ....... (Income through pve (or pickup) is much less (effective) than the cost of pokeballs, braces, etc) And it is a fact, that the methods of actually generating money are very limited compared to the methods to spend it. (Even the NPCs have realized that and became stingy ._.)

11 Blue Pokeblock Plus' and 1 Blaue Pokeblock -> that should give 69 beautyness which is the lowest to evolve as far as i know. kosts 46 chesto berries

Donphan and Tentacruel <3

once, when i was good and he was active x) semjon vs zarrrrr

Doing the Arena rebattles is the easiest way to get some decent money every day (If you have some pokemon, which can do them easily) I used to payday farm in the cave at the battle frontier (smeargles ~ lv 45 + item drops) Other options which give consistant money are the trainers at Island 5 (the ladys), Around Lavender (pokemaniac north 2 gamblers west), East of Fuchsia (4 chicks), East of Vermillion (gamblers + engeneers) ~65k If u prever pve you can grind some BP in battle frontier - purchase items there and sell them. Time consuming but not too hard/a good challenge and a nice variety from the basic stuff. If u like it, you can also start or continuing farming + selling berries or craft items out of berries and sell those. Those are the consistant methods I can actually think of. Enjoy your grind x)

Tbh... to follow many threads, you sadly don't even have to have a brain ._. I spent plenty of time to the game (as far as my time lets it happen)... I work for my stuff, have plenty of comps and items. I maybe complain a bit about the methods to earn money (at least they are somewhat consistant), cause they ARE tedious (pls dont respond to this xD) That might me true. Maybe my spelling wasn't correct at all and might have caused some misunderstandings ._. I don't want to flame anyone, as I don't want to get flamed. Maybe we can start over again in another thread.

I wonder about this too actually... Better call Saul? Wait, did u copy this from an older one of your posts? since it feels so... familiar? As if i read this shit over and over again. Followed by things which never have anything to do with the topic - like: Im rich, I used to have some alt accounts, im the biggest GTL sniper, everyone besides me sucks... THIS IS AN MMOand and such pointless things ... change your disc dude... It's nice to see, that u play long and are a rich boy, but... dont be such an arrogant asshole the whole time and treat everyone as if they're re-tarded... Cause if you're that long playing, why don't work on improovement suggestions, gained from your expieriences? I, for that part, am not pooped and I can understand your anger about everyone crying about this and that lil shitty things... I also know the pros and cons of this game, also the pros prevail. BUT this doesn't mean, that it could't get BETTER.

I wonder how this thread would have gone, if Dinkle and Redspawn would've shut up, intead of shitposting (since they don't seem to be interrested in anything changing)... Reading this "discussion" is so boring and pointless. Making money IS in fact boring and tedious... It's no fun at all. BUT - as a reward for a hard day of grinding, you earned enough money to purchase a PP Max or two... For example: Old Quick Money Run (Island 5+6, Around Lavender, East of Fuchsia, East of Vermillion) payout - 127307 New Run (Same trainers) 63160. Its like your boss tells u after 3 years of working: Mate, u did a good job, as a reward Ill cut half of the money Ill pay you. And don't tell any BS about "but u can snipe gtl or rematch gym leaders or suck my balls and Ill pay u". If everyone snipes in gtl, how likely is it, to get sth worth?! Gym rematches are okayish, but really time consuming and boring (not too hard, so a good shot every day with TV on beside this) The actual dungeon also fails to argue with, since it is nice NOW, but after the event ends, it is no longer a valid option to farm there. Farming items and selling them is a good sideeffect of ev training or payday farming, but u won't get rich by doing this (at least if u want to breed comps, update old ones and such) Also in my opinion, at the moment (or maybe even since ever), there are way too many/expensive money sinks in the game, whose ensure everyone spending everything and their mom for braces, tms, (potions or W/E).

Asap I do my next run, I'll check the differences and post them. Good idea for this guide, so I hope you'll get all the informations about the different teams.

I do play the game ;) with all its positive sides and all flaws, since 1013 ._. Different movesets/abilites/Moves/Natures -> so its actually not "little, compared to most mmo games" - even more, if u look at all tiers... so *pssscht*pokemmo is at the top of grindmmo*psssscht* I am playing this game since 2013, so don't tell me to dedicate time to this game bro ;)

The problem I have with this is, they are all kind of LUCK based. U can spend hours and a dozens of pokeballs/Thief/Covet WITHOUT finding sth, that's worth the time investment. The point of "evey penny counts" made me break out in loud laughter, since EVERY non-rebattle method DOES COST MONEY u have to invest beforehand. So u have to invest in something, which is NOT guaranteed to work out. Teach me senpai please, no better teach all of us - u seem to have a secret technique - so everyone is happy *sarcasm end* I know pokemmo is NOT a battle simulator and that's fine, but grinding (while here are sooo many things to grind... money, breeders, money, items, money, bp and last but not least - money) should at least be worth and in some points at least a tinyyyyyy littttle bit rewarding. Also, I don't want to use my whole (limited) time which I spend in pokemmo for grinding. So, ontopic, please show your goodwill and make pp max more easy to obtain (as mentioned anywhere in this topic - x BP and untradable) - to show the support of your longtime (mostly pvp) playerbase <3

Whoa... THAT is absoluteley true! I somehow was still in the timeline, where Lax and blissey where Uber, so i used to make some (well working) alternatives. :X At least, it doesn't have a fighting wakness, and it resists stealth rocks.

I'd suggest Hariyama for the OU. It has quite nice bulk, a decent ability, acces to Whirlwind, Knock off, status moves (Force Palm as a STAB move) and it counters/checks 2 of the most annoying special sweepers in the current OU (whose I matched against at least) - Volcarona +1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hariyama: 82-97 (32.6 - 38.6%) -- 8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery +1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Thick Fat Hariyama: 101-121 (40.2 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery +1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hariyama: 92-109 (36.6 - 43.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery +1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hariyama: 73-87 (29 - 34.6%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery +1 252+ SpA Life Orb Volcarona Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hariyama: 221-260 (88 - 103.5%) -- 25% chance to OHKO 0 Atk Hariyama Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Volcarona: 188-224 (117.5 - 140%) -- guaranteed OHKO and Chandelure 252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hariyama: 118-141 (47 - 56.1%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hariyama: 90-106 (35.8 - 42.2%) -- 93% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Thick Fat Hariyama: 97-115 (38.6 - 45.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Thick Fat Hariyama: 67-81 (26.6 - 32.2%) -- 51.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Hidden Power Fighting vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hariyama: 60-71 (23.9 - 28.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 Atk Hariyama Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chandelure: 72-86 (53.3 - 63.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Srsly... THIS comparrison is like apples = pears... WHY in the world would you play a POKEMON mmo if your goal is to FARM berries?! Did i get sth wrong? Grinding for competetive is a HUGE difference, than go watering some berries to sell them to buy more seeds to plant them to water them then pickem up then sell them then crush some then plant then and so on. Why the heck is this neccecary (and also why so tedious) in a game, in which the endgame content should be something more appealing in terms of pokemon (instead of a harvest moon thingy)...

The event mons should at least be able to reach their last evolution imo, is there any possibility?