ThinkNicer Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) Yes banning Garchomp (which Im completely behind) first will just mean that Hydreigon is more free to run Specs, which is obviously the most nukelike set. So you really don't need to wait to ban them separately. Id say Hydreigon is a worse offender than Garchomp tho so it should go first. Garchomp has a clear set of 'counters' and checks. While hydreigons vary wildly depending on the set its running. Edit: the worst thing is that the council is seemingly not taking any action this month while we can basically unanimously agree that OU is a broken shithole right now Edit2: quickbans pls. Thanks Edited August 28, 2020 by ThinkNicer Link to comment
gbwead Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 It doesn't really matter that much if I vote to ban Hydreigon in August or in September. The bottom line is nothing will happen as long as other TC members stay silent. heavenlyhost and Luke 2 Link to comment
xStarr Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 "silent" more like inactive Laz, AndrewHavsha, Moi and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
ThinkNicer Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, gbwead said: It doesn't really matter that much if I vote to ban Hydreigon in August or in September. The bottom line is nothing will happen as long as other TC members stay silent. Im this close to making a thread to french revolution this TC's ass Zymogen and Laz 1 1 Link to comment
kiwi Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Ban Garchomp Hydreigon is fine, and if Garchomp isnt in the meta it will be easier to prepare for it. Most of Garchomp checks give Hydreigon a free turn, and most of Hydre sets arent that good because of Chomp. heavenlyhost and gbwead 2 Link to comment
LifeStyleNORE Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, gbwead said: Other tiers are changing, so no real point in banning anything. > So Roserade is broken > Eelektross, Ludicolo and Rhyperior are the only things dropping > So no point looking at Roserade Zymogen and gbwead 1 1 Link to comment
pachima Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, kiwi said: Hydreigon is fine Sure. Link to comment
Aerun Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Ban SD on Garchomp / nerf it's base attack stat Ban Draco Meteor on Hydreigon / nerf Draco Meteor to 110 BP (so critdra teams get nerfed in doubles too lol) Ban Guts on Conkeldurr Kupokun 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, LifeStyleNORE said: > So Roserade is broken 0 explanation, but it's broken, ok 28 minutes ago, LifeStyleNORE said: > Eelektross, Ludicolo and Rhyperior are the only things dropping Imagine forgetting that the most used mon in NU is about to move up... But hey, there is probably 0 correlation between Roserade usage/viability and Blastoise usage/viability. Edited August 28, 2020 by gbwead Link to comment
NagaX Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Ban serene grace on togekiss and dragon dance on gyarados Shadow, Gunthug, StrikerOak and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Laz Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Ban Illusion on Zoroark NagaX, AndrewHavsha, heavenlyhost and 2 others 5 Link to comment
isi1993 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Ban Fake Out in Kangaskhan or nerf it's base attack stat Link to comment
Shadow Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) Ban Double Venomoth UU Reward, or lower down IV's, please <3 Edited August 28, 2020 by xJoseee CaptnBaklava 1 Link to comment
xMago Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, isi1993 said: Ban Fake Out in Kangaskhan or nerf it's base attack stat we need ban all moves with priority, mach punch hitmonchan too or sucker punch absol/honck we need ban too all moves boostings, if garchomp lose sd, we needed to ban all sd pokemons, all shell smash, or all quiver dances for example. FighterChamp 1 Link to comment
Navetas Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Ban hidden abilities (I come from the future) HermitG, NagaX, SweeTforU and 6 others 9 Link to comment
Munya Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 Ban everything, doubles as the only tier xMago, DoubleJ, LeZenor and 5 others 8 Link to comment
gbwead Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, Munya said: Ban everything, doubles as the only tier not a tier Link to comment
NagaX Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, gbwead said: not a tier Gbwead Gibles champion PSL XIII pls gbwead 1 Link to comment
isi1993 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 if u want garchomp ban, ban Deep sea tooth in LC Navetas, Quinn010 and HumongousNoodle 3 Link to comment
NagaX Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, isi1993 said: if u want garchomp ban, ban Deep sea tooth in LC shame gbwead 1 Link to comment
Navetas Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Clampler is easy to stop, you only need to use 2 poke but depends on his set maybe you will lose 1 xd. but arena trap was the problem #FreeDiglet #FreeTrapinch #BanTrubish&Bronzor Link to comment
LifeStyleNORE Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, gbwead said: 0 explanation, but it's broken, ok 31 minutes ago, gbwead said: Imagine forgetting that the most used mon in NU is about to move up... But hey, there is probably 0 correlation between Roserade usage/viability and Blastoise usage/viability. Imagine pretending that this is somehow relevant to Roserade... But hey, there is probably 0 correlation between Roserade Typing/Offensive stats/Support tools and Roserade being broken. Link to comment
gbwead Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, LifeStyleNORE said: Imagine pretending that this is somehow relevant to Roserade... But hey, there is probably 0 correlation between Roserade Typing/Offensive stats/Support tools and Roserade being broken. So Roserade is broken in August because of a January outdated pre-sinnoh butler post. That's very very very convincing. Thank you. I'm not even saying Roserade shouldn't be banned in the long run, just that there are more pressing matters to deal with (OU) and tiering wise it makes no sense to ban Roserade at this very moment after so many usage movements. Link to comment
LifeStyleNORE Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, gbwead said: So Roserade is broken in August because of a January outdated pre-sinnoh butler post. That's very very very convincing. Thank you. I'm not even saying Roserade shouldn't be banned in the long run, just that there are more pressing matters to deal with (OU) and tiering wise it makes no sense to ban Roserade at this very moment after so many usage movements. Nothing changed after Sinnoh. That's why every month people ask for a Roserade ban. And it's just going to happen again next month. Haven't ever seen any anti-Rose ban posts, so either people want it banned, or stay silent and keep abusing it, since there's no argument to keep it around NU. Edited August 28, 2020 by LifeStyleNORE HermitG 1 Link to comment
RLotus Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Tawla said: They still use usage on move up or down from tier to other, its like they dont know that stupid people use some UT in OU. There really should be a min elo for usage stats to count, or if there already is it should be higher. Zymogen 1 Link to comment
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