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On 1/29/2022 at 6:22 PM, gbwead said:

Revote on Porygon-Z each month until it gets banned please.

If they voted once and their ban was discarded, i don't think that he will be voted again too soon.

Have fun using Bronzong/Dusclops Eviolite/Mismagius and trying to check Porygon-Z.

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2 hours ago, Quinn010 said:

pz is healthy for the tier it just make it unplayable no fun teams to use now you don't have to waste your time on ladder trying to have fun ty tc 

Obvious is all because Porygon-Z, and not for 300 cores of walls that you can only pass if you have your team full of stallbreaks, or all mons with Taunt, or a Full Hax team(This apply to All tiers except randoms, not only UU), and make Novices players give up from low tiers because he don't want to face this cores that he can't bypass because he are novice and don't are prepared.

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6 hours ago, DoubleJ said:

You're welcome, and yes, the vote has been made and Porygon-Z discussion has been put to rest until TomorrowTM. In more serious discussion though, what are your thoughts on Dugtrio in UU?

keep dug i like to abuse the mon. it doesn't matter how you make your team just have dug in it and it patches half of your team seems balanced imo. 

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as you all know acupressure is a move that can increase evasion and deliver the game into the hands of those who use it easily leaving the game stressful and less healthy than it already is with these King's shit Rock or if not the low ladder and your samurott Quick claw beating you, are you going to do something about it or not? A move that increases evasion beyond all of its stats cannot be kept in the metagame so, even though it's kind of a meme, I lost 5 in a row today just because of this shit movement even though it's uncommon, it's deplorable to see people abusing something like this to win a match and put a face of disgust on their opponent.

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Anyway, will they do something about this move or let the game turn into a game of luck?

 

Considering there is a clause for this, banning is simple at least in my view.

 

 

( CaioXLive I beg you to be quiet, and no I'm not going to haze my time trick room just to stop something like this)

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2 minutes ago, NiceRNGbro said:

as you all know acupressure is a move that can increase evasion and deliver the game into the hands of those who use it easily leaving the game stressful and less healthy than it already is with these King's shit Rock or if not the low ladder and your samurott Quick claw beating you, are you going to do something about it or not? A move that increases evasion beyond all of its stats cannot be kept in the metagame so, even though it's kind of a meme, I lost 5 in a row today just because of this shit movement even though it's uncommon, it's deplorable to see people abusing something like this to win a match and put a face of disgust on their opponent.

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I only see 0 skill players using this kind of shit

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7 hours ago, Tawla said:

I only see 0 skill players using this kind of shit

And i see the people that obtained the 4th place on Reserve Tournament of last Seasonal, top rank, and other hundred of peoples that copy their team.

They really think that a player that obtain "sucess" will not have their team copied? Like Solir's Team, that team is a team to make their opponent forfeit, if they want to preserve their valuable time. With Boring strategys and spamming moves  "Full Skill" , now he/she growth their elo Winning most part of matchs due to forfeit, vs 450 or less Elo reaching in point that people started to copy their team.

 

20 hours ago, DoubleJ said:

You're welcome, and yes, the vote has been made and Porygon-Z discussion has been put to rest until TomorrowTM. In more serious discussion though, what are your thoughts on Dugtrio in UU?

Well, i think that he not moved up Dugtrio for OU for two reasons:

1st - Dugtrio not obtained usage necessary to go up.
2nd - With mons being added due to Platinum addition, and updating sets to Gen 8, they are checking how dugtrio will make on Under Used. 

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45 minutes ago, caioxlive13 said:

And i see the people that obtained the 4th place on Reserve Tournament of last Seasonal, top rank, and other hundred of peoples that copy their team.

They really think that a player that obtain "sucess" will not have their team copied? Like Solir's Team, that team is a team to make their opponent forfeit, if they want to preserve their valuable time. With Boring strategys and spamming moves  "Full Skill" , now he/she growth their elo Winning most part of matchs due to forfeit, vs 450 or less Elo reaching in point that people started to copy their team.

Just play infernape vacuum wave

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4 hours ago, NiceRNGbro said:

as you all know acupressure is a move that can increase evasion and deliver the game into the hands of those who use it easily leaving the game stressful and less healthy than it already is with these King's shit Rock or if not the low ladder and your samurott Quick claw beating you, are you going to do something about it or not? A move that increases evasion beyond all of its stats cannot be kept in the metagame so, even though it's kind of a meme, I lost 5 in a row today just because of this shit movement even though it's

0 replies from some admin about this movement that has no discussion, literally breaks the evasion clauses should not be a suggestion, it should be banned immediately 

But they have not even given an answer as to why it has not yet been banned or if they plan to ban it or why they consider it to be fair in the competitive because there is no other reason for them to remain silent without saying anything letting them abuse this movement

So please, just one answer we want

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Just now, danhred said:

0 replies from some admin about this movement that has no discussion, literally breaks the evasion clauses should not be a suggestion, it should be banned immediately 

But they have not even given an answer as to why it has not yet been banned or if they plan to ban it or why they consider it to be fair in the competitive because there is no other reason for them to remain silent without saying anything letting them abuse this movement

So please, just one answer we want

The actual truth is someone in the dev team more or less after the Platinum release decided that MMO should follow the main games more closely in terms of mechanics, bans, etc. Not when it comes to the economy or shinies though, that'd be fun and convenient, this ruling only affects the competitive side, and this call supercedes everything the TC tries to do. They recently had a TC member who is also an amazing player outright quit the spot with an angry rant because of the lack of influence he had among other things, all because people who have never played competitive get the final word. And people who don't play competitive don't get to be frustrated by RNG, you can watch all you want and say "haha that miss sucked" but it isn't until you play yourself and see half your games dictated by either your or their Cursed Body that you start to understand that maybe there's a problem.

Whoever this dev is (or maybe someone in the higher end of the mod team) needs to swallow their pride and retract this shitty call. Gamefreak cannot balance for shit, this game had rulings that were even ahead of Smogon's in some cases such as Baton Pass or Dugtrio and now we're far behind playing an RNG fest while having no blanket checks against it.

They'll never show their face though or justify their shitty decision though, they'll just sit back and relax while the Yuan rain.

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@suigin madara left because TC didn't agree with him and he flamed us, not because he couldn't convince devs of anything. 

 

Regardless, you're right though. Devs have tried to stay Canon as best as possible even to the point of avoiding complex bans in the past. Fortunately, we now have efforts to avoid pokemon bans in general which has led to modification to keep from making anything an uber. 

 

It's difficult to balance PvP with PvE, especially when PvP despite being very vocal is honestly a teeny tiny part of this game and likely not the big money generator that the thousands(?) of casual players are. 

 

TC tries though and conversation is ongoing. 

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