TohnR Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 8 hours ago, WorldCupMMO said: Unnefable Forum name: @Unnefable IGN: Krrik Discord: Unnefable#7555 WilliamHE Forum name: @NanTongTouZi IGN: WilliamHe Discord: WilliamHE#7700 IceCloudOT, Quinn010 and LaFloudy 3 Link to comment
min1004kr Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) IGN : EYL Country : south korea Fluff : I need to skip again this world cup like the last world cup reason is Host -williamHE : the great one of chinese win traders who did help lengyuQAQ in season 4 doubles ranked Council Limbowred : dont have to say something except he is thr great host in last world cup we dont have players who can host or do council greatly like orangemaniac, mago? ? thank you!! Edited July 6, 2022 by min1004kr Zymogen, Luke, Kamowanthere and 8 others 6 2 1 1 1 Link to comment
Shadow Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 59 minutes ago, min1004kr said: IGN : EYL Country : south korea Fluff : I need to skip again this world cup like the last world cup reason is Host -williamHE : the great one of chinese win traders who did help lengyuQAQ in season 4 doubles ranked Council Limbowred : dont have to say something except he is thr great host in last world cup we dont have players who can host or do council greatly like orangemaniac, mago? ? thank you!! Since none of them may be hosting this, even if you could dislike those, they're the ones who wanted to host this, anyway, it's always up to you to participate or not bingonb and RedHair 2 Link to comment
Umbramol Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 45 minutes ago, xJoseee said: Since none of them may be hosting this, even if you could dislike those, they're the ones who wanted to host this, anyway, it's always up to you to participate or not If a person is a known and proven wintrader. He shouldn't even be in the mix of hosting anything even close to a competitive event. The only thing u should be considering is to ban the proven wintrader who still is able to play this game while manipulating the ranked system and the untradable rewards that you guys give away. I don't think you moderators understand how bad publicity this thing gives you. Yes you can tell one of the most recognized players in the game to not participate and he might not. But eyl is always the captain of his country and the main reason we had team Korea in the past. So he is the one advertising this game and it's events. Just shameful that we even discuss that at this point. hannahtaylor, Quinn010, Kamowanthere and 10 others 13 Link to comment
Shadow Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Umbramol said: If a person is a known and proven wintrader. He shouldn't even be in the mix of hosting anything even close to a competitive event. The only thing u should be considering is to ban the proven wintrader who still is able to play this game while manipulating the ranked system and the untradable rewards that you guys give away. I don't think you moderators understand how bad publicity this thing gives you. Yes you can tell one of the most recognized players in the game to not participate and he might not. But eyl is always the captain of his country and the main reason we had team Korea in the past. So he is the one advertising this game and it's events. Just shameful that we even discuss that at this point. I got your point, don't get me wrong, I love competitive stuff and all those kind of events, but since this is an unofficial event, I don't personally have any capability of changing the staff this or other unofficial events have, neither my mates can. EYL knows me well personally, as he helped us a lot with wintrading stuff in ladder, he's definetely a very fair player. Link to comment
Umbramol Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Just now, xJoseee said: I got your point, don't get me wrong, I love competitive stuff and all those kind of events, but since this is an unofficial event, I don't personally have any capability of changing the staff this or other unofficial events have, neither any of my mates can When gbwead wintraded in an official tour he got punishment. Did this player get any punishment whatsoever? And yes you can't intefere at who hosts what unofficial. I totally get that. The part that concerns me is what action was taken about this wintrading in ladder. Cause the player is still playing this game and is about to co-host or whatever his role will be. Do they still have the unique crowns that other players have struggled so much to get? Axelgor, RysPicz, Shadow and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
Quinn010 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 cancel world cup lesgooo pcl lesgo Imperial, Shadow and Poufilou 1 2 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 @DarylDixon let's host together heichicoda, CaptnBaklava and Latiosrol 2 1 Link to comment
Poufilou Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I don't think the information on how they were punished matters at this moment (and I think staff isn't allowed to share these details like this). We have our own morals and decision making distinctive from staff as a community for an unofficial event. And I agree that wat EYL said (I trust him and remember his documented post about wintrading but would be nice to have more proofs here) may invalidate someone as host. That being said, we had gb as host and no one questioned the moral aspect of it. This accusation make it suffer more because not many people know and trust any of the hosts. I believe that if people that actually can vouch for them speak up now, or even @NanTongTouZi defending themselves, it would be better for everyone to make up their minds. Link to comment
Akaruyo Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 10 hours ago, Xigbar said: @Akaruyocapitanes ahora tu o que carajos? No digas mierdas padrino conozco como a 2 personas nomás XDD Link to comment
RedHair Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 1小时前,Umbramol 说: If a person is a known and proven wintrader. He shouldn't even be in the mix of hosting anything even close to a competitive event. The only thing u should be considering is to ban the proven wintrader who still is able to play this game while manipulating the ranked system and the untradable rewards that you guys give away. I don't think you moderators understand how bad publicity this thing gives you. Yes you can tell one of the most recognized players in the game to not participate and he might not. But eyl is always the captain of his country and the main reason we had team Korea in the past. So he is the one advertising this game and it's events. Just shameful that we even discuss that at this point. IT would be better to judge it by yourself whether a player is good or not when sb just criticize the player by his own opinion of disliking . Sb want to skip or just afraid to attend the WC just like the last time WC, JUST LET IT GO. FAIR OR NOT ,everybody is watching , we players should work for fair game in a positive way . Baeex, amingwa, Unnefable and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Umbramol Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, RedHair said: IT would be better to judge it by yourself whether a player is good or not when sb just criticize the player by his own opinion of disliking . Sb want to skip or just afraid to attend the WC just like the last time WC, JUST LET IT GO. FAIR OR NOT ,everybody is watching , we players should work for fair game in a positive way . If you want a good event it has to be fair and be hosted by people that are trustworthy. To have people that manipulate game and are generally shady is something that is a false advertisement for the event. Has nothing to do with fear. Fear who? min1004kr and leehiii 1 1 Link to comment
Umbramol Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 57 minutes ago, Poufilou said: I don't think the information on how they were punished matters at this moment (and I think staff isn't allowed to share these details like this). We have our own morals and decision making distinctive from staff as a community for an unofficial event. And I agree that wat EYL said (I trust him and remember his documented post about wintrading but would be nice to have more proofs here) may invalidate someone as host. That being said, we had gb as host and no one questioned the moral aspect of it. This accusation make it suffer more because not many people know and trust any of the hosts. I believe that if people that actually can vouch for them speak up now, or even @NanTongTouZi defending themselves, it would be better for everyone to make up their minds. You have completely missed the point. Gb has played the game for 10 years and has proven himself that when it comes to hosting he can place rules and follow them. And even in previous events there were question marks. Now you have an unknown player with the only info you have for him is that they manipulate matchmaking. And they are hosting the event. How will you lure players to play this event? You already missed a whole country attending just by that. You will end up making a show that has 2 china 2 Argentina and stuff like that just because these countries have many players. And not nessecarily good players. The point is that you have a credible event that has different countries and possible "Cinderella stories" to talk about. To have the person's friends start a brawl about the accusations is the one thing that you don't need before the event even starts. Poufilou and RysPicz 2 Link to comment
RedHair Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 5分钟前,min1004kr 说: I know now the word ‘sb’ is ‘shabi’ the mean is son of uguues. U chinese always are shameless. Dont know about sense of shame. U said fair or not? Wc need to be fair absolutely. Everybody can watch the duels but cant watch if the players do some bad things like win trade. So at least the host need to be fair morally. U just have ur back to williamHE as same chinese. U rly think host dont need to be fair? And second, y u think im afraid to attend? And u said im the only one who dislike win trade? If u watched my win trade proof post the past day, players agrees my opinion so much then u denounce that all players who agreed my win trade post? I am speaking ENGLISH NOW , sb is for somebody ,cant you read that? NOW you jump out and say all Chinese are shameless because of your own dislike ,who is the shameless one? I never say a Korean this or that ,I cant believe I used to respect you ,OMG. I never said host dont need to be fair ,and you dont have the right to judge he is fair or not .BECAUSE sb is willing to pay his time for other players and sb is avoiding to attend the game and attacking a whole country , who is the shameless guy? btw, william is in the USA , you choose the wrong one to attack amingwa and IceCloudOT 1 1 Link to comment
RedHair Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 14分钟前,Umbramol 说: If you want a good event it has to be fair and be hosted by people that are trustworthy. To have people that manipulate game and are generally shady is something that is a false advertisement for the event. Has nothing to do with fear. Fear who? I totally agree that the WC must be fair ,and I think gbwead is 100percent for the host, if we can invite him to do that job,. but now others want to pay their efforts to do that work but somebody just want to show his dislike in a not appropriate way IceCloudOT and amingwa 1 1 Link to comment
min1004kr Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, RedHair said: I am speaking ENGLISH NOW , sb is for somebody ,cant you read that? NOW you jump out and say all Chinese are shameless because of your own dislike ,who is the shameless one? I never say a Korean this or that ,I cant believe I used to respect you ,OMG. I never said host dont need to be fair ,and you dont have the right to judge he is fair or not .BECAUSE sb is willing to pay his time for other players and sb is avoiding to attend the game and attacking a whole country , who is the shameless guy? btw, william is in the USA , you choose the wrong one to attack Ah ok im sorry about that i misread the context . It was my mistake if u mean sb is sombody. Yes i dont have right to judge someone if i dont have proof. The reason i thought williamHE is chinese is when he helped lengyuQAQ in dubs ranked season4, he whispered me lengyuQAQ is his girl friend. Cuz Most of chinese helped lengyuQAQ, i thought he is chinese too ofc his forum ign, nantongtouzi made me to think he is chinese but my point didnt changed. I thought host need to be fair morally. At least if host have experience to do win trade, i think he dont have right to be host Edited July 6, 2022 by min1004kr Umbramol, woozu, Quinn010 and 1 other 4 Link to comment
RedHair Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 7分钟前,min1004kr 说: Ah ok im sorry about that i misread the context . It was my mistake if u mean sb is sombody. Yes i dont have right to judge someone if i dont have proof. The reason i thought williamHE is chinese is when he helped lengyuQAQ in dubs ranked season4, he whispered me lengyuQAQ is his girl friend. Cuz Most of chinese helped lengyuQAQ, i thought he is chinese too but my point didnt changed. I thought host need to be fair morally. At least if host have experience to do win trade, i think he dont have right to be host ALL players attend WC want the game fair absolutely , I hope you dont really mean it about your attack to all players from a whole country. What I can tell you is that the WC found me to ask whether I do the work to be one of the HOST, but I thought I might dont have enough time for this , we all know that the HOST need to pay a lot of time for this work ,I respect every HOST who willing to do this job, and you cant say one is shameless for the job cause he might surrender to his friend for one or two games in ladder if he really did it ,(I played 200 games and I cant meet the same player for more than 3 times in dubs if william want to wintrade for 1-2points he need to play at least 500 games I think , the fact is he didnt mainly play dubs at all ,so dont mislead others who dont know dubs players )if you thought lengyuQAQ tradewin causing you losing your second place of that season ,just to report it to the MMO staffs, I dont care about him and no one here need to care. AS far as I know , WIlliam is a good player for several tiers, and always willing to help others and patient to hear and solve problems . NOW ,if you have opinions about the WC staffs ,PLEASE speak it in an appropriate way instead of ATTACKING OTHERS. ALL players will judge it fair or not. Enjoy Your Life! yuekoo, clayclover, Cxqingling and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
hidan Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 12 hours ago, skyluxNG said: Venezuela ganará esta vez ? El socialismo si gana pero copas no creo ??? Baeex and LaFloudy 1 1 Link to comment
Imperial Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Man the thread hasn't even been open for 24 hours and there's already drama... Good luck hosts, hope you're still just as excited at the end of this shitshow. Tear, Quinn010, nethatar and 6 others 2 1 6 Link to comment
isi1993 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I offered to host this, since no one said anything about the wc, don't try to create the post now, don't complain. Quinn010, Latiosrol, CaptnBaklava and 3 others 6 Link to comment
caioxlive13 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) Will have qualification round this year, or will continue the no-value for participate on a world cup?(On FIFA world Cup, have a certain value to some nations to Qualify, even if they don't advance too much, because of hard challenge to just enter. But here, spots is Guaranteed, so there's no value on participation, only value on winning.) If you don't know how to do this, i leave on spoiler for you: Spoiler 8 Spots for World Cup; Leave two spots to WorldCup directly to Champions and Runner-Ups of last edition(Current Edition: China & Venezuela Arrepera) the Remaining 6: Create 4 continental zones, and Give one spot for each: North America/Africa(Both have a little amount of countries, so both will compete together.) South American Europe Asian And do a Intercontinal play-off with runner-up of each zone. Edited July 6, 2022 by caioxlive13 Link to comment
min1004kr Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, RedHair said: ALL players attend WC want the game fair absolutely , I hope you dont really mean it about your attack to all players from a whole country. What I can tell you is that the WC found me to ask whether I do the work to be one of the HOST, but I thought I might dont have enough time for this , we all know that the HOST need to pay a lot of time for this work ,I respect every HOST who willing to do this job, and you cant say one is shameless for the job cause he might surrender to his friend for one or two games in ladder if he really did it ,(I played 200 games and I cant meet the same player for more than 3 times in dubs if william want to wintrade for 1-2points he need to play at least 500 games I think , the fact is he didnt mainly play dubs at all ,so dont mislead others who dont know dubs players )if you thought lengyuQAQ tradewin causing you losing your second place of that season ,just to report it to the MMO staffs, I dont care about him and no one here need to care. AS far as I know , WIlliam is a good player for several tiers, and always willing to help others and patient to hear and solve problems . NOW ,if you have opinions about the WC staffs ,PLEASE speak it in an appropriate way instead of ATTACKING OTHERS. ALL players will judge it fair or not. Enjoy Your Life! I just wanted to log out. I thought it is just meanless talk. But need to fix something. William didnt surrender just 1 or 2 games to give opponent point. If i watched his 1 or 2 surrender games. I didnt insist he is inappropriate as host cuz of maybe internet problem or etc. i reported some of win trade players who did win trade over 5 games to give point not do fun. William is the player who i reported cuz he did in a vicious way not fun. Ofc his main tier was not dubs tier and it is not important issue fact is he did it for lengyuQAQ. Ofc i reported lengyuQAQ cuz as u said, i lost 2nd place cuz of lengyuQAQ and chinese friends huge win trade during season last 2 weeks. MrPharm who is 3rd place in season 4 dubs ranked is my alt. I remember i whispered william “dont do win trade i dont want to report u” but he ignored and did samthings for lengyuQAQ. the reason i wrote about lengyuQAQ is my opinion’s example that williamHE is inappropriate as host. As u said, william is good player but not good host. I didnt attack players who dont do illegal things i just insist host need to be fair cuz wc need to be fair. I say again. The point is host need to be fair. Is it inappropriate way for me to say sb is not fair although i reported with proof? Then teach me which method is appropriate way. As i said, lengyuQAQ did huge win trade during season last 2 weeks and got 2nd place with friends included williamHE. U think rly william did 1 or 2 game surrender for just fun? And the last, it is rly sad u cant make urself as host. If u r host, maybe wc will be fun. Edited July 6, 2022 by min1004kr Link to comment
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