Mazzonz Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Hello guys I have a question about IV's : so basicly is this if I have a pokemon with all stats at 30 , how strong is the same pokemon with all 31? is that a big difference? Link to comment
BrandonBraune Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Finally, the moment I was waiting for, the topic of IVS 30 and IVS 31. Look, I'll explain it easily and simply in a few words. each 1 iv is equivalent to 4 evs and 8 evs is equivalent to 1 final point of a pokemon stat, so 30 ivs are equivalent to 120 evs, which is equal to 15 final stat points to a pokemon (120 ÷ 8 = 15 ) so what happens when we have an IV with 31? 4 evs left; that we can complete by putting 252 evs on the pokemon (248 evs ÷ 8 = 31 final stat points + 4 evs left over from the 252 evs are added to the 1 iv left over from the 31 ivs, so you can boost with one stat point final bonus to a pokemon). 1 stat point seems like a small thing but sometimes for that 1 point your opponent is left with 1 health point. Edited July 20, 2022 by BrandonBraune Shadow and BiuBiv 2 Link to comment
Elizn Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 If you're battling at Lv.50 its the same, Lv.100 is 1 stat lower, so not a lot of difference if something is all 30 vs all 31 digitalduckie and Cristi 2 Link to comment
BrandonBraune Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 25 minutes ago, Elizn said: If you're battling at Lv.50 its the same, Lv.100 is 1 stat lower, so not a lot of difference if something is all 30 vs all 31 I also recommend you consult with professionals because there are people who misinform, and that is dangerous for ppl like hem who is interested for the perfection. At level 50 and level 100 there are differences, at level 50 it increases 1 point and at level 100 it increases 2. (iv 30 atk at level 50) (iv 31 atk at level 50) Link to comment
Elizn Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BrandonBraune said: because there are people who misinform, and that is dangerous for ppl like hem who is interested for the perfection. At level 50 and level 100 there are differences, at level 50 it increases 1 point and at level 100 it increases 2. (iv 30 atk at level 50) (iv 31 atk at level 50) Your EVs are making it different. Lv.50 with 0 EVs into a stat and 30 IV will be the same as a 31, again with no EVs Lv.100 with 0 EVs into a stat and a 30 IV will be 1 lower than a 31. Again with no EVs At Lv.100 having 31 IVs will add 31 onto its base stat, and having 30 will add 30. Lv.50 will add 15 to both 30 and a 31 IV Pokemon, Since it cannot add .5 of a stat, or it just rounds it down 11 minutes ago, BrandonBraune said: I also recommend you consult with professionals Edited July 20, 2022 by Elizn Cristi and BrandonBraune 2 Link to comment
BrandonBraune Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Elizn said: Your EVs are making it different. Lv.50 with 0 EVs into a stat and 30 IV will be the same as a 31, again with no EVs Lv.100 with 0 EVs into a stat and a 30 IV will be 1 lower than a 31. Again with no EVs At Lv.100 having 31 IVs will add 31 onto its base stat, and having 31 will add 30. Lv.50 will add 15 to both 30 and a 31 IV Pokemon, Since it cannot add .5 of a stat 30 ivs is better than 31 ivs because each 1 iv is equal to 4 evs, obviously with 0 evs the 31 ivs would come out to 30 evs. there is a difference, but that difference is what makes a small but incredible difference that can give you victory in some battles, if not, they would not have put the iv 31 and the creators would have left it at 30 ivs not 31 and the evs limit would not set it to 252, and would have left the limit at 248, if there really was no "difference". Thanks to information like that, people put 252 EVs on an IV with 30 points hahaha. I laugh, but my eyes bleed when I see a pokemon trained like that. Edited July 20, 2022 by BrandonBraune Link to comment
ScizoMonkey Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Correct me if I am wrong, but if two identic Pokemon with same nature and EVs, one has 31 in speed, the other has 30 : the one will 31 will outspeed the one at 30 right? Even without any EVs, and at level 50 ? BrandonBraune 1 Link to comment
BrandonBraune Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ScizoMonkey said: Correct me if I am wrong, but if two identic Pokemon with same nature and EVs, one has 31 in speed, the other has 30 : the one will 31 will outspeed the one at 30 right? Even without any EVs, and at level 50 ? you're Right!!! but if you dont have Evs, two are with same speed,. But I want to ask you something guys, why don't you put evs on your pokemon, really guys? Edited July 20, 2022 by BrandonBraune Link to comment
Elizn Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ScizoMonkey said: Correct me if I am wrong, but if two identic Pokemon with same nature and EVs, one has 31 in speed, the other has 30 : the one will 31 will outspeed the one at 30 right? Even without any EVs, and at level 50 ? Lv.50 will be speed tied. Below has 2 Lv.50 Walrein. Both Quirky nature, one has 30 speed IV, one has 31, both without EV investment. Both have a total speed atat of 85. If they have the same EVs invested into it, say 252 speed, then yes the 31 will be faster. 30 IV 252 SPE EV Walrein will have 116 speed. 31 IV 252 SPE EV Walrein will have 117 Edited July 20, 2022 by Elizn Link to comment
BrandonBraune Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elizn said: Lv.50 will be speed tied. Below has 2 Lv.50 Walrein. Both Quirky nature, one has 30 speed IV, one has 31, both without EV investment. Both have a total speed atat of 85. ok, enough, I'm leaving from this topic, misinform to my little friend, yes, yes, there are no differences between ivs 30 and ivs 31, make your pokemon with iv 30, I'll wait for you with my Garchomp with 31 attack iv and 31 speed iv in pvp matchmaking. Link to comment
Elizn Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, BrandonBraune said: ok, enough, I'm leaving from this topic, misinform to my little friend, yes, yes, there are no differences between ivs 30 and ivs 31, make your pokemon with iv 30, I'll wait for you with my Garchomp with 31 attack iv and 31 speed iv in pvp matchmaking. You literally took half of my post and got annoyed lmao. Have a mess around with https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/ changing IVs from 30 and 31, and add the EVs onto them. BrandonBraune and ProfessorBlue 1 1 Link to comment
CaptnBaklava Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 It's not that hard. I you plan to put 252 evs into a Stat make it 31 ivs, if you don't plan to ev a Stat make it 30 ivs. For some ev spreads 30 or 31 dont make a difference, just Calc it. BrandonBraune, Pecaeme, ProfessorBlue and 2 others 5 Link to comment
BrandonBraune Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 everyone fighting to explain to the new guy and the guy didn't even read us xD ScizoMonkey 1 Link to comment
Poufilou Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Why do you two disagree while saying the same thing lo. BrandonBraune, ChihuahuanRaven and CaptnBaklava 2 1 Link to comment
ScizoMonkey Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, BrandonBraune said: everyone fighting to explain to the new guy and the guy didn't even read us xD I did read all of it. And AFAIK the calculator is for Pokemon Showdown and classic Pokemon games. I won't be surprised that the PokeMMO devs have implemented a mechanic, a mechanic that makes 2 Pokemons ( lvl 50 same species same nature same EVs) but with 1 IV point difference in speed, a mechanic that cancel the tied. BrandonBraune 1 Link to comment
BrandonBraune Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ScizoMonkey said: I did read all of it. And AFAIK the calculator is for Pokemon Showdown and classic Pokemon games. I won't be surprised that the PokeMMO devs have implemented a mechanic, a mechanic that makes 2 Pokemons ( lvl 50 same species same nature same EVs) but with 1 IV point difference in speed, a mechanic that cancel the tied. oooh no, the developers do not touch anything in the game, they leave the metagaming as it is, the only thing they did was that they took the sword dance from garchomp and hydreigon is threatened not to throw more draco comets in pvps, but from there, every thing is intact. Edited July 20, 2022 by BrandonBraune Link to comment
ProfessorBlue Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Elizn said: You literally took half of my post and got annoyed lmao. Average quora user moment. BrandonBraune and Elizn 1 1 Link to comment
Shadow Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 That's why, if for competitive, and if you're only investing EVs in 3 stats, the optimal pokemon to do is the 3x31 2/3x30 instead of a 5x31 Unnefable and ScizoMonkey 1 1 Link to comment
Zuladra Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 30 IVs ⚔️ 31 IVs • At level 50, If you have 30 IVs in a stat and invest 252 EVs you get: 15 + 31,5 = 46 points (rounded) • At level 50, If you have 31 IVs in a stat and invest 252 EVs you get: 15,5 + 31,5 = 47 points 📕See Guide Edited July 20, 2022 by Zuladra Poufilou 1 Link to comment
Bertolfoso Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zuladra said: 2. You will get most of each number in this order: EVs >> Nature > IVs Very good post, but I'd remove this. Consider Chansey with defense Zuladra 1 Link to comment
razimove Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 You are overthinking this to much. At lvl 50, 30 = 31 if not invested into. If you invest into then you'll want 31. Technically on standard 252 252 6 evs, a 31/31/30/x/30/31 is a perfect comp. Now if you want to customize those EVs it's a whole different story. Poufilou 1 Link to comment
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