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Finally, the moment I was waiting for, the topic of IVS 30 and IVS 31.

Look, I'll explain it easily and simply in a few words. each 1 iv is equivalent to 4 evs and 8 evs is equivalent to 1 final point of a pokemon stat, so 30 ivs are equivalent to 120 evs, which is equal to 15 final stat points to a pokemon (120 ÷ 8 = 15 ) so what happens when we have an IV with 31? 4 evs left; that we can complete by putting 252 evs on the pokemon (248 evs ÷ 8 = 31 final stat points + 4 evs left over from the 252 evs are added to the 1 iv left over from the 31 ivs, so you can boost with one stat point final bonus to a pokemon).

1 stat point seems like a small thing but sometimes for that 1 point your opponent is left with 1 health point. 

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25 minutes ago, Elizn said:

If you're battling at Lv.50 its the same,

 

Lv.100 is 1 stat lower, so not a lot of difference if something is all 30 vs all 31

I also recommend you consult with professionals because there are people who misinform, and that is dangerous for ppl like hem who is interested for the perfection.

 

At level 50 and level 100 there are differences, at level 50 it increases 1 point and at level 100 it increases 2.

(iv 30 atk at level 50)

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(iv 31 atk at level 50)

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11 minutes ago, BrandonBraune said:

because there are people who misinform, and that is dangerous for ppl like hem who is interested for the perfection.

 

At level 50 and level 100 there are differences, at level 50 it increases 1 point and at level 100 it increases 2.

(iv 30 atk at level 50)

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(iv 31 atk at level 50)

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Your EVs are making it different.

 

Lv.50 with 0 EVs into a stat and 30 IV will be the same as a 31, again with no EVs

 

Lv.100 with 0 EVs into a stat and a 30 IV will be 1 lower than a 31. Again with no EVs

 

At Lv.100 having 31 IVs will add 31 onto its base stat, and having 30 will add 30. Lv.50 will add 15 to both 30 and a 31 IV Pokemon, Since it cannot add .5 of a stat, or it just rounds it down

 

11 minutes ago, BrandonBraune said:

I also recommend you consult with professionals

 

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18 minutes ago, Elizn said:

Your EVs are making it different.

 

Lv.50 with 0 EVs into a stat and 30 IV will be the same as a 31, again with no EVs

 

Lv.100 with 0 EVs into a stat and a 30 IV will be 1 lower than a 31. Again with no EVs

 

At Lv.100 having 31 IVs will add 31 onto its base stat, and having 31 will add 30. Lv.50 will add 15 to both 30 and a 31 IV Pokemon, Since it cannot add .5 of a stat

 

 

30 ivs is better than 31 ivs because each 1 iv is equal to 4 evs, obviously with 0 evs the 31 ivs would come out to 30 evs.  there is a difference, but that difference is what makes a small but incredible difference that can give you victory in some battles, if not, they would not have put the iv 31 and the creators would have left it at 30 ivs not 31 and the evs limit would not set it to 252, and would have left the limit at 248, if there really was no "difference". 

Thanks to information like that, people put 252 EVs on an IV with 30 points hahaha. I laugh, but my eyes bleed when I see a pokemon trained like that.

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7 minutes ago, ScizoMonkey said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but if two identic Pokemon with same nature and EVs, one has 31 in speed, the other has 30 : the one will 31 will outspeed the one at 30 right? Even without any EVs, and at level 50 ?

you're Right!!! but if you dont have Evs, two are with same speed,. 

 

But I want to ask you something guys, why don't you put evs on your pokemon, really guys?

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9 minutes ago, ScizoMonkey said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but if two identic Pokemon with same nature and EVs, one has 31 in speed, the other has 30 : the one will 31 will outspeed the one at 30 right? Even without any EVs, and at level 50 ?

Lv.50 will be speed tied. Below has 2 Lv.50 Walrein. Both Quirky nature, one has 30 speed IV, one has 31, both without EV investment. Both have a total speed atat of 85.

 

If they have the same EVs invested into it, say 252 speed, then yes the 31 will be faster. 30 IV 252 SPE EV Walrein will have 116 speed. 31 IV 252 SPE EV Walrein will have 117

 

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4 minutes ago, Elizn said:

Lv.50 will be speed tied. Below has 2 Lv.50 Walrein. Both Quirky nature, one has 30 speed IV, one has 31, both without EV investment. Both have a total speed atat of 85.

 

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ok, enough, I'm leaving from this topic, misinform to my little friend, yes, yes, there are no differences between ivs 30 and ivs 31, make your pokemon with iv 30, I'll wait for you with my Garchomp with 31 attack iv and 31 speed iv in pvp matchmaking.

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1 minute ago, BrandonBraune said:

ok, enough, I'm leaving from this topic, misinform to my little friend, yes, yes, there are no differences between ivs 30 and ivs 31, make your pokemon with iv 30, I'll wait for you with my Garchomp with 31 attack iv and 31 speed iv in pvp matchmaking.

You literally took half of my post and got annoyed lmao.

 

Have a mess around with https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/ changing IVs from 30 and 31, and add the EVs onto them. 

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6 minutes ago, BrandonBraune said:

everyone fighting to explain to the new guy and the guy didn't even read us xD

I did read all of it.

And AFAIK the calculator is for Pokemon Showdown and classic Pokemon games.

 

I won't be surprised that the PokeMMO devs have implemented a mechanic, a mechanic that makes 2 Pokemons ( lvl 50 same species same nature same EVs) but with 1 IV point difference in speed, a mechanic that cancel the tied.

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15 minutes ago, ScizoMonkey said:

I did read all of it.

And AFAIK the calculator is for Pokemon Showdown and classic Pokemon games.

 

I won't be surprised that the PokeMMO devs have implemented a mechanic, a mechanic that makes 2 Pokemons ( lvl 50 same species same nature same EVs) but with 1 IV point difference in speed, a mechanic that cancel the tied.

oooh no, the developers do not touch anything in the game, they leave the metagaming as it is, the only thing they did was that they took the sword dance from garchomp and hydreigon is threatened not to throw more draco comets in pvps, but from there, every thing is intact.

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