[PSL15] Donations - DPP vs VGC vs Gen9

[Thenavarro]

2 hours ago, caioxlive13 said:

Si quieren escapar del tradicionalismo, sugerí usar los formatos no oficiales en MMO. ¿Alguien me escucha?

The only interesting unofficial format is UT and vgc the others depend a lot on luck and the competitive aspect is lost, and vgc is taking into account what is UT that personally would include it on LC that is garbage but I understand that UT does not have a base of many players. 

[KaynineXL]

That's a lot of talking and not enough donating.

 

Get the cash out

[caioxlive13]

2 hours ago, Thenavarro said:

The only interesting unofficial format is UT and vgc the others depend a lot on luck and the competitive aspect is lost 

Excuse me, what competitive aspect? Match-defining luck exists on absolutely All tiers. Not only RNG rolls, but guessing right more predicts(Don't say that predict is skill because you can't confirm what your opponent will do. You try to guess it. If your guess is right or wrong, is 100% out of your control).

[NagaX]

4 hours ago, caioxlive13 said:

10 Tiers Let's Go!

 

Joking... Also, if want help to host PSL i can do that.

do it pls @KaynineXL

[LpZ]

4 hours ago, caioxlive13 said:

Showdown is fine to have. Problem is when the format is... DPP or RBY, for example. Not saying that the formats are bad, but they're very old and will be hard even to teambuild and test teams if you don't have friends that play on those formats.

(Also it's 100% certain that a team that have a Showdown player like TheLpZ will get a auto 1-0)

why do you always mention me as an example

[Thenavarro]

33 minutes ago, caioxlive13 said:

Disculpe, ¿qué aspecto competitivo? La suerte que define el partido existe en absolutamente todos los niveles. No solo se tira RNG, sino que adivinar correctamente más predice (no diga que predecir es habilidad porque no puede confirmar lo que hará su oponente. Intenta adivinarlo. Si su conjetura es correcta o incorrecta, es 100% fuera de su control).

You can tell you haven't played a duel in your life to say predicting isn't a skill, and rng is part of the game. We do not need monotype duels that 85% win the pokemons with favored type or 1 vs 1 that the duel is defined before starting the duel

[caioxlive13]

Just now, Thenavarro said:

You can tell you haven't played a duel in your life to say predicting isn't a skill.

So you have knowledge trying to guess a question on a quiz that you don't heared nothing about? No. You'll answer something, but you don't control if your answer is right or wrong. On pokémon is simmilar in cases related to predicts. You will try to guess the movement your opponent will do, but if your predict will be right or wrong, isn't on your control. Is on hands of your opponent that will not know your move(and if you don't pick a 100% Acc move, will be on hands of RNG that if your move will land or miss).

[Thenavarro]

4 minutes ago, caioxlive13 said:

Entonces, ¿tiene conocimiento tratando de adivinar una pregunta en un cuestionario del que no ha oído nada? No. Responderás algo, pero no controlas si tu respuesta es correcta o incorrecta. En pokémon es similar en casos relacionados con predicciones. Intentarás adivinar el movimiento que hará tu oponente, pero si tu predicción será correcta o incorrecta, no está bajo tu control. Está en manos de tu oponente que no sabrá tu movimiento (y si no eliges un movimiento 100% Acc, estará en manos de RNG que si tu movimiento aterrizará o fallará).

But it is within the same game, monotype and 1 vs 1 the game is defined before starting. and this event prioritizes maximum competitiveness and that is really not competitive at all. 

[caioxlive13]

3 minutes ago, Thenavarro said:

But it is within the same game, monotype and 1 vs 1 the game is defined before starting. and this event prioritizes maximum competitiveness and that is really not competitive at all. 

NFE and Untiered are valid choices, then?

[gbwead]

1 minute ago, caioxlive13 said:

NFE and Untiered are valid choices, then?

These tiers have no player base to speak of. LC was an official tier. LC is struggling to survive. LC still has players. Why would NFE or UT ever get a spot over LC? The only thing that would do is kill LC, a tier that still has players, in exchange for formats that have no players. 

 

 

[KaynineXL]

 

Tear and Terresa added to the donations. Both for gen 9 OU.

[caioxlive13]

14 minutes ago, gbwead said:

These tiers have no player base to speak of. LC was an official tier. LC is struggling to survive. LC still has players. Why would NFE or UT ever get a spot over LC? The only thing that would do is kill LC, a tier that still has players, in exchange for formats that have no players. 

 

 

Never cogited remove LC from Line-up. My suggestion is 10 tiers, like on first edition of PSL Teams/TCL, being: OU/OU/UU/NU/DB/LC/SV OU, DPP OU or VGC/UT or NFE/2x Manager Choice(Unable to choose SV OU, DPP OU, VGC, UT or NFE). If you read previous posts, you should notice the "10 Tiers Let's Go!"

Edited November 6, 2022 by caioxlive13

[gbwead]

Oh sure, I have no problem with replacing Dubs or DPP by NFE or UT. 

[caioxlive13]

1 minute ago, gbwead said:

Oh sure, I have no problem with replacing Dubs or DPP by NFE or UT. 

Not even replacing him. Let 7 different formats on Line Up, and include 2x Manager Choice(most likely they will not include MC.)

Edited November 6, 2022 by caioxlive13

[Thenavarro]

26 minutes ago, caioxlive13 said:

Entonces, ¿NFE y Untiered son opciones válidas?

Well, if it could be, but nobody plays those although as I said UT I prefer it more than LC

[SweeTforU]

dpp

[caioxlive13]

44 minutes ago, SweeTforU said:

dpp

If you donate $3,625,001 or more, then your wish will come true... but need to reminder, DPP will start winning but need to defend the leading.

[Draekyn]

@KaynineXLPut up a vote for Caio to get a forum profile picture so we can see easier when to keep scrolling down

[HedgeWitch]

Gen 9 OU is cool

 

[Spaintakula]

14 hours ago, KaynineXL said:

We will include 1 showdown tier. If the vast majority would rather not have it then I will step down and someone else can host that agrees with you.

Ily for this

[gbwead]

@KaynineXL, when does the donation war end and is there any way to prevent last minute donations?

[KaynineXL]

2 hours ago, gbwead said:

@KaynineXL, when does the donation war end and is there any way to prevent last minute donations?

This weekend I’m going to be working on dates for everything.

 

Last minute donations will be prevented with a system that extends the donation war by 8 hours if one of the tiers passes another. There will be an absolute final date where it will finish though.

[caioxlive13]

@KaynineXLabout 8th tier, that you still don't hit the hammer about it, maybe consider NFE or Untiered on the 8th format? 

[SweeTforU]

15 hours ago, gbwead said:

@KaynineXL, when does the donation war end and is there any way to prevent last minute donations?

no u gonna eat dust i got a whole pile sitting waiting for the last day

[gbwead]

9 minutes ago, SweeTforU said:

no u gonna eat dust i got a whole pile sitting waiting for the last day

we'll see about that xD