CaptnBaklava Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) Just seen that recovery moves like recover/roost/rest will get pp nerfed in gen 9. Will the same happen for us? And if so how do you think it wo affect our meta? Edited November 10, 2022 by CaptnBaklava DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 how bad is the nerf in gen9? Link to comment
EmilioGarras Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Did anyone also saw they nerfed contrary and defiant on Gen 9? Which means ability will activate only once and not spam, I think this could be a way to nerf Serperior... DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
Blu3Breath Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, EmilioGarras said: Did anyone also saw they nerfed contrary and defiant on Gen 9? Which means ability will activate only once and not spam, I think this could be a way to nerf Serperior... Competitive, not contrary iirc was some translation error EmilioGarras, DoubleJ, OrangeManiac and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
suigin Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SweeTforU said: how bad is the nerf in gen9? 5 PP on Recover, not sure about the rest. It'd kill the viability of a good chunk of the metagame. Edited November 10, 2022 by suigin Link to comment
HumongousNoodle Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) On 11/10/2022 at 4:37 PM, suigin said: 5 PP on Recover, not sure about the rest. It'd kill the viability of a good chunk of the metagame. I think all instant recovery except softboiled is axed to 5 (8 max) pp RIP soft-boiled wasn't safe. Pls don't kill recovery. Edited November 18, 2022 by HumongousNoodle Link to comment
kiwi Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, EmilioGarras said: Did anyone also saw they nerfed contrary and defiant on Gen 9? Which means ability will activate only once and not spam, I think this could be a way to nerf Serperior... Contrary, defiant and competitive nerfs are fake DoubleJ, Blu3Breath and TohnR 3 Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 hours ago, suigin said: 5 PP on Recover, not sure about the rest. It'd kill the viability of a good chunk of the metagame. great, the less stall the better TohnR, Sargeste, razimove and 5 others 4 1 1 2 Link to comment
suigin Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Scald was also removed from the game, I believe this should also be implemented in PokeMMO. EmilioGarras, ProfessorBlue, TohnR and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment
suigin Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Hail also was replaced by Snow, it removes the chip damage part but gives ice types a 50% defense boost, kinda like Sandstorm does for Rock type Spdef. Would this be implemented? Would people like this being implemented? Quinn010, Luke, RysPicz and 4 others 7 Link to comment
caioxlive13 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) On 11/10/2022 at 12:37 PM, suigin said: 5 PP on Recover, not sure about the rest. It'd kill the viability of a good chunk of the metagame. Scald was also removed from the game, I believe this should also be implemented in PokeMMO Thanks GodArceus! Now i will play Gen 9, Stall is definitively killed. Edited November 12, 2022 by caioxlive13 HumongousNoodle, Matthzinxl, EmilioGarras and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment
mateusvictor Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 What is TC's opinion on the nerfs in recovery movement PPs? Link to comment
PoseidonWrath Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, mateusvictor said: What is TC's opinion on the nerfs in recovery movement PPs? Terrible Zokuru, HumongousNoodle, drewq and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment
juajuajua Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 bro i really love this one, piloswine and mamoswine would be excelent , and the snow setter would be cool too, i really love the idea of givin ice a boost DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
caioxlive13 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 11/10/2022 at 10:49 AM, CaptnBaklava said: Just seen that recovery moves like recover/roost/rest will get pp nerfed in gen 9. Will the same happen for us? Yes. Link to comment
drewq Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) On 11/18/2022 at 2:53 PM, PoseidonWrath said: Terrible Who in the world is making these calls then Edited January 24, 2023 by drewq HumongousNoodle 1 Link to comment
Zymogen Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Base PP for Recover, Softboiled, Rest, Milk Drink, Slack Off, Roost, and Heal Order have been reduced to 5 Are you serious? Why are changes that nobody asked for being made, and all the while requests which receive large amounts of public support are completely ignored? A mechanic update of this magnitude should not have flown under the radar and be added under “balancing” (what does it even remotely balance???) as if it is some innocuous bug fix that doesn’t change anything significant Where were the discussion threads? Quinn010, Blu3Breath, Huargensy and 4 others 7 Link to comment
Doctor Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Also whoever thinks that this affects only stall teams either hasn't played PvP or they think everything that can self recover is stall lol Luke, lallo17 and HumongousNoodle 1 1 1 Link to comment
Blu3Breath Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 I assume this decision was made to reduce the amount of battles reaching the 1 hour threshold, regardless I believe this to be a somewhat hasty decision. The current Pokemon, items and movepools available are not the same as generation 9, I suspect a large contributor to the recovery nerfs was the introduction of heavy duty boots in generation 8 and perhaps the inclusion of three new top tier unaware Pokemon that would be difficult to break without nerfing their recovery. If a change like this was made, why do we not have the boosted power of knock off as well? Megas and Z-crystals no longer exist (in gen 8/9) to facilitate that they provide counter play to the move. Some sort of explanation is required for the thought process behind this specific change as the metagame will be completely reshaped. Requi, LeJovi, JohntheJester and 5 others 8 Link to comment
AQA Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) no one can wall me now special attakers will love this chansey skarm is over back to stallrein ? o.o Edited January 25, 2023 by AQA CaptnBaklava, NikhilR, Gruul and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 12:53 AM, AQA said: no one can wall me now special attakers will love this chansey skarm is over back to stallrein ? o.o The Rain God has been revived. Link to comment
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