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The Delta Pokemon Idea Thread


SukaNekoto

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Nyan, a lot of people on PokeMMO wanted me to start this thread, so here we are. :) Kinda a bit nervous to start a discussion about Delta Pokemon when PokeMMO is so early in development, but I guess it won’t get any further into development unless ideas are stated, so whatever happens lol I must give credit to Kiliminati for helping to come up with the ideas.

 

I read a lot that Darkshade really is interested in Holon, and I know a lot of people who would be delighted to have the idea of catching their own Delta Pokemon inside PokeMMO happen, so here are my ideas as to how it can work without Delta Pokemon overriding the meta game.

 

TL;DR:

 

This is a thread to discuss the possibility of Delta Pokemon being implimented in PokeMMO and how to make it work. Delta Pokemon are Pokemon with an alternate typing. Please at least try to skim the original post before posting, I know it's kinda a long read please forgive me.

 

What Are Delta Pokemon?:

 

Delta Pokemon are special Pokemon only seen in the Pokemon Trading Card Game. They look just like the original Pokemon, but are mutants originating in the Holon region by radio waves, similar to the Red Gyarados. They were created when scientists were searching for Mew on Holon, but it changed the Pokemon surrounding the area to have a different typing. Basically, it's a Pokemon with a different type.

 

How Delta Pokemon Will Appear in the Game:

 

They may only be obtainable in certain areas of PokeMMO, mainly in the region of Holon since that’s where they were originally created at. They will not, however, be the only Pokemon that appear in Holon. Regular forms of the Pokemon will usually appear in the region, but on a rare chance, maybe slightly less rare than than seeing a wild shiny, you will encounter a Delta Pokemon to capture. I’m not sure if you would like to stack shiny and Delta together, but a shiny Delta will probably be rarer than a regular shiny by 20-50%.

 

When you encounter a Delta Pokemon, next to their name will be the δ symbol and the symbol will stay next to this name even if it has a nickname to ensure in a PvP battle that it doesn’t have the Pokemon’s regular typing. When you look at the Pokemon Summary, the δ symbol will appear in the similar place the shiny star will be. I’m not sure what you would do if you would want an animation of something similar to the stars coming from a shiny when a Delta appears, maybe Δ’s instead? lol

 

Here are some crudely edited screenshots I found on Google Images to give you an idea of what I mean:

[spoiler]deltaappeared.png[/spoiler]

[spoiler]pokemonsummarydelta.png[/spoiler]

 

How to Limit the Use of Delta Pokemon:

 

Making Them Unbreedable: They are mutants, so therefore they cannot breed would be the explanation for it. Keeps them rare like shinies and it wouldn’t be a hassle to decide how to program typings of Pokemon when they do breed.

 

1 Delta Pokemon Allowed in Tournaments: It’s an idea I thought of when watching the National Pokemon X/Y Tournament that happened earlier in July. They were only allowed to have one Mega Pokemon per party. Why not do something similar to that for Delta Pokemon? That way, everyone doesn’t just use Delta Pokemon to get a high advantage. You can capture as many Delta Pokemon as you like, but they will be limited when facing against actual people. If there will be such things as Mega Delta Pokemon in the future, then that 1 Pokemon will count as both the Mega they use and the Delta.

 

How Typings for Delta Pokemon Could Work:

 

There will only be one alternate typing for each Pokemon. I believe that if there are more, it would be too confusing for players. I tried playing Pokemon with all the types completely randomized and it was waaay too hard. Typings should be edited to also make sense to the Pokemon. For example, a regular Sandslash would be a Ground type, but a Delta Sandslash is a Fighting/Steel type. The Delta doesn’t really make that much sense does it? Possibly editing the typing to either Ground/Fighting or Ground/Steel will help keep consistency and not keep people who are new guessing what to do to defeat the Delta Sandslash.

 

I’ve spent my time to creating a list of Pokemon with regular typings and Delta typings. The last column has my ideas on how to edit the typings so it would make more sense to the game, but I will edit the list later so that way it has ideas that everyone agrees on. The question marks mean that I really don’t know what typing it should be, it doesn’t mean I want it to be a glitch type lol. I also wrote in parentheses the TCG name of the typing for reference. Semicolons mean it’s another Delta Pokemon that has a different type:

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#         Pokemon       Original Type          Delta Type(s)                          IMO Delta Type

004     Charmander     Fire                        Electric(Lightning)                         Fire/Electric

005     Charmeleon      Fire                        Electric(Lightning)                         Fire/Electric

006     Charizard          Fire/Flying             Electric/Steel(Metal);                          ???

                                                                            Dark                      

009     Blastoise           Water                    Fighting/Steel(Metal)                 Water/Fighting or

                                                                                                                        Water/Steel

015     Beedrill             Bug/Poison              Grass/Steel(Metal)                         Bug/Steel

016     Pidgey              Normal/Flying           Electric(Lightning)                       Electric/Flying

017     Pidgeotto          Normal/Flying           Electric(Lightning)                       Electric/Flying

018     Pidgeot             Normal/Flying   Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal)          Electric/Flying

022     Fearow             Normal/Flying          Electric(Lightning)                       Electric/Flying

023     Ekans               Poison                             Fire                                       Poison/Fire

024     Arbok                Poison                            Fire                                        Poison/Fire

025     Pikachu             Electric                     Steel(Metal)                                 Elecric/Steel

026     Raichu              Electric                      Steel(Metal)                                Electric/Steel

028     Sandslash        Ground                  Fighting/Steel(Metal)                 Ground/Fighting or

                                                                                                                         Ground/Steel

029     Nidoran♀          Poison                        Steel(Metal)                                Poison/Steel

030     Nidorina            Poison                        Steel(Metal)                                Poison/Steel

031     Nidoqueen        Poison/Ground           Steel(Metal)                                Poison/Steel

032     Nidoran♂          Poison                            Dark                                        Poison/Dark

033     Nidorino            Poison                            Dark                                        Poison/Dark

034     Nidoking           Poison/Ground               Dark                                        Poison/Dark

037     Vulpix               Fire                                Psychic                                     Fire/Psychic

038     Ninetails            Fire                               Psychic                                     Fire/Psychic

043     Oddish              Grass/Poison                 Water                                      Grass/Water

044     Gloom               Grass/Poison                Psychic                                    Grass/Psychic

045     Vileplume          Grass/Poison         Psychic/Steel(Metal)                       Grass/Psychic

052     Meowth             Normal                 Dark/Steel(Metal); Dark                           Dark

053     Persian               Normal                    Dark/Steel(Metal)                            Dark/Steel

054     Psyduck            Water                     Electric(Lightning)                           Water/Electric

055     Golduck            Water                     Electric(Lightning)                           Water/Electric

056     Mankey             Fighting                         Fire                                          Fighting/Fire

057     Primeape           Fighting                        Fire                                           Fighting/Fire

086     Seel                   Water                     Normal(Colorless)                          Water/Normal

087     Dewgong          Water/Ice                 Normal(Colorless)                            Normal/Ice

090     Shellder             Water                            Fighting                                  Water/Fighting

091     Cloyster             Water/Ice                       Fighting                                  Water/Fighting

099     Kingler              Water                        Fire/Steel(Metal)                            Water/Steel

102     Exeggcute         Grass/Psychic               Fighting                                   Grass/Fighting

103     Exeggutor         Grass/Psychic                Fighting                                   Grass/Fighting

105     Marowak           Ground                    Fighting/Steel(Metal)                   Ground/Fighting or

                                                                                                                           Ground/Steel

116     Horsea               Water                        Fire; Fighting                                      ???

117     Seadra               Water                        Fire; Fighting                                      ???

121     Starmie              Water/Psychic          Water/Steel(Metal)                          Water/Steel

124     Jynx                   Ice/Psychic                     Fire                                               Ice/Fire

125     Electabuzz         Electric                         Fighting                                    Electric/Fighting

127     Pinsir                 Bug                              Fighting                                       Bug/Fighting

129     Magikarp           Water                         Steel(Metal)                                    Water/Steel

130     Gyarados           Water/Flying    Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal);              Water/Steel

                                                                            Fire          

133     Eevee                Normal                        Steel(Metal)                                       Steel

134     Vaporeon          Water                      Water/Steel(Metal)                           Water/Steel

135     Jolteon               Electric             Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal)             Electric/Steel

136     Flareon              Fire                          Fire/Steel(Metal)                               Fire/Steel

138     Omanyte           Rock/Water                   Psychic                                     Psychic/Water

139     Omastar             Rock/Water                  Psychic                                     Psychic/Water

140     Kabuto              Rock/Water             Electric(Lightning)                           Electric/Water

141     Kabutops           Rock/Water             Electric(Lightning)                          Electric/Water

142     Aerodactyl        Rock/Flying                    Fire                                            Fire/Flying

143     Snorlax              Normal                         Grass                                               ???

147     Dratini               Dragon                Electric(Lightning); Grass                Dragon/Electric or

                                                                                                                            Dragon/Grass

148     Dragonair          Dragon                Electric(Lightning); Grass                Dragon/Electric or

                                                                                                                          Dragon/Grass

149     Dragonite          Dragon/Flying     Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal);       Dragon/Electric or 

                                                                               Grass                                   Dragon/Steel

150     Mewtwo            Psychic            Fire/Steel(Metal); Electric(Lightning)               ???

151     Mew                  Psychic                         Fire; Water                                        ???

152     Chikorita           Grass                            Fighting                                     Grass/Fighting

153     Bayleef              Grass                           Fighting                                     Grass/Fighting

154     Meganium         Grass                            Fighting                                     Grass/Fighting

155     Cyndaquil         Fire                                Psychic                                       Fire/Psychic

156     Quilava              Fire                               Psychic                                       Fire/Psychic

157     Typhlosion        Fire                                Psychic                                       Fire/Psychic

158     Totodile             Water                     Electric(Lightning)                            Water/Electric

159     Croconaw          Water                     Electric(Lightning)                            Water/Electric

160     Feraligatr           Water                     Electric(Lightning)                           Water/Electric

165     Ledyba              Bug/Flying                   Steel(Metal)                                  Bug/Steel

166     Ledian               Bug/Flying                   Steel(Metal)                                  Bug/Steel

169     Crobat               Poison/Flying          Grass/Steel(Metal)                                ???

172     Pichu                 Electric                         Steel(Metal)                                Electric/Steel

175     Togepi               Normal(Fairy)                   Water                                           ???

176     Togetic              Normal(Fairy)/Flying         Water                                           ???

177     Natu                  Psychic/Flying                    Dark                                      Dark/Flying

178     Xatu                  Psychic/Flying                    Dark                                       Dark/Flying

179     Mareep              Electric                       Normal(Colorless)                       Electric/Normal

180     Flaaffy              Electric                        Normal(Colorless)                       Electric/Normal

181     Ampharos          Electric                       Normal(Colorless)                       Electric/Normal

182     Bellossom          Grass                                Water                                    Grass/Water

184     Azumarill          Water(/Fairy)               Water/Steel(Metal)                        Water/Steel

194     Wooper             Water/Ground                   Grass                                     Water/Grass

195     Quagsire            Water/Ground                  Grass                                     Water/Grass

196     Espeon              Psychic                     Psychic/Steel(Metal)                      Psychic/Steel

197     Umbreon           Dark                            Dark/Steel(Metal)                          Dark/Steel

207     Gligar                Ground/Flying              Electric(Lightning)                      Electric/Flying

214     Heracross          Bug/Fighting                       Fire                                         Bug/Fire

226     Mantine             Water/Flying                Electric(Lightning)                      Water/Electric

230     Kingdra             Water/Dragon           Fire/Steel(Metal); Fighting                    ???

235     Smeargle           Normal                              Psychic                                      Psychic

238     Smoochum        Ice/Psychic                          Fire                                           Ice/Fire

239     Elekid                Electric                             Fighting                                 Electric/Fighting

246     Larvitar             Rock/Ground             Fire; Electric(Lightning)                       ???

247     Pupitar               Rock/Ground            Fire; Electric(Lightning)                       ???

248     Tyranitar            Rock/Dark       Fire/Steel(Metal); Electric(Lightning)            ???

251     Treeko               Grass                               Psychic                                  Grass/Psychic

253     Grovyle             Grass                                Psychic                                   Grass/Psychic

254     Sceptile             Grass                                Psychic                                   Grass/Psychic

262     Mightyena         Dark                               Dark/Steel(Metal)                         Dark/Steel

272     Ludicolo            Water/Grass                         Fire                                       Water/Fire

276     Taillow              Normal/Flying                        Fire                                       Fire/Flying

277     Swellow            Normal/Flying                         Fire                                       Fire/Flying

279     Pelipper             Water/Flying                Electric(Lightning)                             ???

280     Ralts                  Psychic(/Fairy)                     Fire                                           ???

281     Kirlia                 Psychic(/Fairy)                      Fire                                           ???

282     Gardevoir          Psychic(/Fairy)          Psychic/Steel(Metal); Fire                    ???

318     Carvanha           Water/Dark                        Fighting                                 Water/Fighting

319     Sharpedo           Water/Dark                        Fighting                                 Water/Fighting

328     Trapinch            Ground                          Grass; Psychic                                 ???

329     Vibrava             Ground/Dragon              Grass; Psychic                                 ???

330     Flygon               Ground/Dragon       Grass/Steel(Metal); Psychic                   ???

332     Cacturne            Grass/Dark                        Fighting                                Grass/Fighting

333     Swablu              Normal/Flying                       Water                                     Water/Flying

334     Altaria               Dragon/Flying                      Water                                     Dragon/Water

335     Zangoose           Normal                           Steel(Metal)                                     Steel

345     Lileep                Rock/Grass                          Dark                                       Dark/Grass

346     Cradily              Rock/Grass                    Dark/Steel(Metal)                         Dark/Grass

347     Anorith              Rock/Bug                           Steel(Metal)                              Steel/Bug

348     Armaldo            Rock/Bug                     Fighting/Steel(Metal)                      Steel/Bug

349     Feebas               Water                                   Fire                                      Water/Fire

350     Milotic               Water                                     Fire                                       Water/Fire

357     Tropius              Grass/Flying                    Steel(Metal)                               Grass/Steel

358     Chimecho          Psychic                            Steel(Metal)                                    Steel

371     Bagon                Dragon                             Fire; Water                                    ???

372     Shelgon             Dragon                             Fire; Water                                    ???

373     Salamence         Dragon/Flying           Fire/Steel(Metal); Water                       ???

374     Beldum             Steel/Psychic                  Electric(Lightning)                      Steel/Electric

375     Metang              Steel/Psychic                 Electric(Lightning)                      Steel/Electric

376     Metagross          Steel/Psychic         Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal)         Steel/Electric

380     Latias                Dragon/Psychic      Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal);         Dragon/Fire

                                                                                      Fire

381     Latios                Dragon/Psychic      Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal);        Dragon/Water

                                                                                     Water 

384     Rayquaza          Dragon/Flying         Electric(Lightning)/Steel(Metal);               ???

                                                                             Water/Steel(Metal)          

386     Deoxys              Psychic            Dark; Steel(Metal); Normal(Colorless);            ???

                                                                         Electric(Lightning)           

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I also had the idea that if there are such things as Mega Delta Pokemon, the typings may be based on the EX Delta Pokemon. Maybe not the best idea, as I’m not exactly sure what to do with it, but I made this chart anyways:

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#         Pokemon         Mega Evo?     Mega Evo Type(s)      EX Delta Type          IMO Delta Mega Type

149     Dragonite                No                                                         Grass                         

230     Kingdra                   No                                                        Fighting                    

248     Tyranitar                Yes                    Rock/Dark            Electric(Lightning)                     ???

254     Sceptile                 Yes                  Grass/Dragon                 Psychic                      Grass/Psychic

282     Gardevoir              Yes                  Psychic/Fairy                    Fire                                 ???

330     Flygon                    No                                                         Psychic                     

334     Altaria                    Yes                 Dragon/Fairy                   Water                         Dragon/Water

373     Salamence            Yes                 Dragon/Flying                  Water                               ???

380     Latias                     No                                                           Fire                           

381     Latios                     No                                                          Water                        

384     Rayquaza               No                                                   Electric(Lightning)    

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Please let me know what your thoughts are; if it’s a good idea, if it’s a bad idea, if I missed something or made an incorrection in my list, how to improve my idea or add to it, etc. I’d love to hear anything that anyone says, even if it’s really negative and spiteful lol I’d also like to hear how some hacks or fan games handled Delta Pokemon for reference.

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 I’m not sure if you would like to stack shiny and Delta together, but a shiny Delta will probably be rarer than a regular shiny by 20-50%.

this would make it a 1/10k? And a normal shiny is already quite rare. 

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delta pokemon are amazing, and I fucking love them, pokemon should defenitly incorperate them in the main games or a spinoff imo.

 

But I don't think they'll really fit into pokemmo, they tend to go better with fanmade romhacks.

also this link is useful for people intrested in the concept of delta pokemon

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%CE%94_Delta_Species_(TCG)

 

However it could defenitly work as an extra content added area, or even an event area.

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I haven't yet read through the OP, so I'll give a response purely based on the title and then go through it;

 

Yes, I find the Holon and Delta Pokemon to be a very interesting concept.

Awhile ago I started an excel document listing each Delta Pokemon and their typing, due to interest.

 

If Delta Pokemon were ever to be introduced (and this has not been discussed AT ALL), it would be best that they were limited to their own area, and are not able to be brought out of that area.

Or, as a battle mode - however this has potential problems due to moves learnt.

 

Edit: I've read a little through the OP, and I don't consider the idea having Pokemon with advantages over others to be obtainable through a 'rare' method to be a good one.

 

Please don't take anything I say above as confirmation of anything, as it's purely a personal interest.

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delta pokemon are amazing, and I fucking love them, pokemon should defenitly incorperate them in the main games or a spinoff imo.

But I don't think they'll really fit into pokemmo, they tend to go better with fanmade romhacks.
also this link is useful for people intrested in the concept of delta pokemon
[url="http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%CE%94_Delta_Species_(TCG)"]http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%CE%94_Delta_Species_(TCG)[/url]


Alright :) Thank you for your concern about it. I hope we may find in this thread a way to make it work in PokeMMO but if not, at least we are stating some fun ideas.
 

 



I haven't yet read through the OP, so I'll give a response purely based on the title and then go through it;

Yes, I find the Holon and Delta Pokemon to be a very interesting concept.
Awhile ago I started an excel document listing each Delta Pokemon and their typing, due to interest.

If Delta Pokemon were ever to be introduced (and this has not been discussed AT ALL), it would be best that they were limited to their own area, and are not able to be brought out of that area.
Or, as a battle mode - however this has potential problems due to moves learnt.

Edit: I've read a little through the OP, and I don't consider having Pokemon with advantages over others to be obtainable through a 'rare' method to be a good one.

Please don't take anything I say above as confirmation of anything, as it's purely a personal interest.


I can't tell if sarcasm, but I have searched the forum and I don't see any thread that really specifically speaks about Delta Pokemon. Sorry if this is a duplication.

Limited to their own area is a great idea as well :) Alright, maybe rare pokemon is a bad idea. I just wanted to post some ideas to get it out there. Maybe we can figure a way out to make Delta Pokemon work.

 

 

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't notice I double-posted. I guess I should wait a few minutes before responding to people so I can get a bunch of comments replied to at a time :)

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I can't tell if sarcasm, but I have searched the forum and I don't see any thread that really specifically speaks about Delta Pokemon. Sorry if this is a duplication.

 

My excel document wasn't public, nor was it related to the development of PokeMMO.

 

Limited to their own area is a great idea as well :) Alright, maybe rare pokemon is a bad idea. I just wanted to post some ideas to get it out there. Maybe we can figure a way out to make Delta Pokemon work.

 

To be clear; Distributing Pokemon that have an inherent advantage over other Pokemon via a method that is largely unreliable and mostly luck based and allowing their use in tournaments is very unfair and does not allow for particularly reliable Delta-related tournaments.

 

Limiting them to a specific area allows for full delta movesets whilst also preventing them to from interfering with the rest of the game.

 

Also your description of Delta Pokemon is a little off;

 

Delta Pokemon are not clones created in the Holon region, but are actually Pokemon that have mutated due to radio waves.

Scientists in the Holon region used these radio waves to search for Mew, but in doing so managed to alter the inhabitants of the region, causing them to mutate into differently typed versions of themselves.

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My excel document wasn't public, nor was it related to the development of PokeMMO.

 

That's not what I was referring to with your sarcasm. I was referring to "If Delta Pokemon were ever to be introduced (and this has not been discussed AT ALL)".

 

 

To be clear; Distributing Pokemon that have an inherent advantage over other Pokemon via a method that is largely unreliable and mostly luck based and allowing their use in tournaments is very unfair and does not allow for particularly reliable Delta-related tournaments.

 

Limiting them to a specific area allows for full delta movesets whilst also preventing them to from interfering with the rest of the game.

 

Also your description of Delta Pokemon is a little off;

 

Delta Pokemon are not clones created in the Holon region, but are actually Pokemon that have mutated due to radio waves.

Scientists in the Holon region used these radio waves to search for Mew, but in doing so managed to mutate the inhabitants of the region, causing them to mutate into differently typed versions of themselves.

 

Ahh forgive me about my error describing Delta Pokemon. I shall edit it :) Maybe having a region lock in the PC for Delta Pokemon and having them only in the Holon region then? Could that work?

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I don't like it, it would be too confusing for competitive players, we already have a lot to deal with to make the tiers balanced.

Also...the region of holon? are you seriously suggesting the devs should implement a new region just for this? 

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That's not what I was referring to with your sarcasm. I was referring to "If Delta Pokemon were ever to be introduced (and this has not been discussed AT ALL)".

 

Ah, I see how could be misconstrued; but no, they haven't been discussed publically or privately before at all.

 

 

Ahh forgive me about my error describing Delta Pokemon. I shall edit it :) Maybe having a region lock in the PC for Delta Pokemon and having them only in the Holon region then? Could that work?

 

As an idea it works fine, however we lack the Holon region and it doesn't exist in any existing game, meaning that it would have to be designed from scratch purely for the implementation of these Pokemon - and that is a lot of work.

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I don't like it, it would be too confusing for competitive players, we already have a lot to deal with to make the tiers balanced.

Also...the region of holon? are you seriously suggesting the devs should implement a new region just for this? 

 

Well, tell me how to make it a better idea then. :) I realize it was rather weird of me to say Holon to be the main area. I'm not suggesting they create the region right now. I meant to say that as if they did, but I must've misworded it. They should only be found in specific areas is what I meant, and if Holon was implimented, it would be the main area to find it. I understand Holon would be one of the hardest regions to make, as there's not a lot of known info about the areas in the region, so it probably won't even happen at all. It's just an idea anyways :)

 

 

Ah, I see how could be misconstrued; but no, they haven't been discussed publically or privately before at all.

 

I thought you might've been referring to the little bits of mentions that they had on the region threads and things like that. Sorry for misunderstanding.

 

 

As an idea it works fine, however we lack the Holon region and it doesn't exist in any existing game, meaning that it would have to be designed from scratch purely for the implementation of these Pokemon - and that is a lot of work.

 

Yeah, it would be a lot of work. I was questioning the idea of that too. Holon's only got a few known areas, so you'd have to make a lot of it up. It would be pretty difficult.

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Well, tell me how to make it a better idea then. :) I realize it was rather weird of me to say Holon to be the main area. I'm not suggesting they create the region right now. I meant to say that as if they did, but I must've misworded it. They should only be found in specific areas is what I meant, and if Holon was implimented, it would be the main area to find it. I understand Holon would be one of the hardest regions to make, as there's not a lot of known info about the areas in the region, so it probably won't even happen at all. It's just an idea anyways :)

 

 

 

 

 

I thought you might've been referring to the little bits of mentions that they had on the region threads and things like that. Sorry for misunderstanding.

 

 

 

Yeah, it would be a lot of work. I was questioning the idea of that too. Holon's only got a few known areas, so you'd have to make a lot of it up. It would be pretty difficult.

 

 

 

 

I don't even like the concept of extremely rare shiny pokemon to tell you the truth: i mean, you can basically achieve more than some players who spent a ton of hours in breeding just by finding a shiny charmander, which is kinda unfair.

But this is a pokemon MMO, so this feature is a must and works more than fine.

I guess having delta pokes in something like a safari zone with some exclusive pokemon would be fine.

Still, in my opinion, shiny pokemon are more than enough.

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Never knew those existed..... But i'd love a fire type magikarp xD

+1

 

Fire-type Gyarados is canon so maybe lol Thank you :)

 

I loved this

 

 

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I really like grass-type Snorlax as well <3

 

I don't even like the concept of extremely rare shiny pokemon to tell you the truth: i mean, you can basically achieve more than some players who spent a ton of hours in breeding just by finding a shiny charmander, which is kinda unfair.

But this is a pokemon MMO, so this feature is a must and works more than fine.

I guess having delta pokes in something like a safari zone with some exclusive pokemon would be fine.

Still, in my opinion, shiny pokemon are more than enough.

 

Alright, the rarity for it is a pretty bad idea. :) Exclusive areas should probably be the thing for Delta Pokemon then. Though, I'm not sure what to do for it to be area-exclusive. I hope someone will help me with that idea, then I'll change my original post :) Thank you for your concern.

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What Are Delta Pokemon?:

 

Delta Pokemon are special Pokemon only seen in the Pokemon Trading Card Game. They look just like the original Pokemon, but are mutants originating in the Holon region by radio waves, similar to the Red Gyarados. They were created when scientists were searching for Mew on Holon, but it changed the Pokemon surrounding the area to have a different typing. Basically, it's a Pokemon with a different type.

 

lI’d also like to hear how some hacks or fan games handled Delta Pokemon for reference.

 

 

http://pokemonzetaomicron.wikia.com/wiki/Special_Pokemon

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However it could defenitly work as an extra content added area, or even an event area.

 

Just noticed you edited your post. Probably could work for an extra added area or event. Either it be a made-up area exclusive for PokeMMO or for areas that haven't had as much use, like Navel Rock or Birth Island. Maybe it could even be incorperated into the Game Corner somehow, idk :)

 

 

Thank you for the link :) It seems that they recolored the Pokemon to match the type. Although it works for a ROM hack, since the sprites are borrowed from a person's individual ROMs that they own themselves, it wouldn't work. Besides, on the cards the Pokemon look exactly the same as they originally did anyways. It seems that the Delta Pokemon are like legendaries and only 1 of the Pokemon appear in a certain area am I correct? Maybe the Delta Pokemon could work similar to how Mewtwo does and be temporarily owned? I'm not sure.

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It's a huge wall of text and the links in this thread direct to a bigger wall of text. so what's the gist of this? too lazy to read

 

Ahh sorry, I probably should put a TL;DR at the top of the original post. Basically we're talking about if Delta Pokemon were implimented, which are Pokemon with an alternate type, into PokeMMO and how to make it work.

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Ahh sorry, I probably should put a TL;DR at the top of the original post. Basically we're talking about if Delta Pokemon were implimented, which are Pokemon with an alternate type, into PokeMMO and how to make it work.

seems messy. definitely wont be implemented in the near future. maybe in 10 years or so

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seems messy. definitely wont be implemented in the near future. maybe in 10 years or so

 

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. Kinda too early to discuss, especially since PokeMMO is in the alpha stage. I don't really expect it to be implimented soon, but it would be interesting to talk about imo

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Just noticed you edited your post. Probably could work for an extra added area or event. Either it be a made-up area exclusive for PokeMMO or for areas that haven't had as much use, like Navel Rock or Birth Island. Maybe it could even be incorperated into the Game Corner somehow, idk :)

 

 

Thank you for the link :) It seems that they recolored the Pokemon to match the type. Although it works for a ROM hack, since the sprites are borrowed from a person's individual ROMs that they own themselves, it wouldn't work. Besides, on the cards the Pokemon look exactly the same as they originally did anyways. It seems that the Delta Pokemon are like legendaries and only 1 of the Pokemon appear in a certain area am I correct? Maybe the Delta Pokemon could work similar to how Mewtwo does and be temporarily owned? I'm not sure.

 

Pokemon Zeta/Omicron aren't rom hacks, they were made on rpg maker and those sprites can be easily recolored. They also made brand new sprites for them too, I can't really speak for what can be done on MMO but it is java and you know how limitless java is......

 

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Pokemon Zeta/Omicron aren't rom hacks, they were made on rpg maker and those sprites can be easily recolored. They also made brand new sprites for them too, I can't really speak for what can be done on MMO but it is java and you know how limitless java is......

 

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Ahh forgive me. I remember someone telling me it was a ROM hack before. Maybe I got it confused with something else, I remember reading somewhere about a generation 5 hack with Delta Pokemon but I forgot what it was called. Yeah Pokemon sprites are extremely easy to recolor, I remember when I was what, 8 or 9 when I first recolored sprites? lol Changing a Snorlax to green in MS Paint is easy. Recoloring and changing sprites would probably make it easier for players to be able to tell what type it is, and probably by doing that you wouldn't have to change the original Delta typings at all. The problem is, PokeMMO will not incorperate its own Pokemon sprites so it can avoid copyright, that's the reason as to why you have to use a ROM in the first place. So, recolors of Pokemon probably won't happen.

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