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The irony of you saying this after 3 people vocally showed their disapproval of these changes is way funnier.

As a final, final point, unless this gets more replies. I see people all the time posting in gen chat about not liking the new difficulty. If the devs and mods are just going to ignore a vocal majority of players who dislike these changes, they should expect the community to get worse. And the playerbase of an mmo is what drives an mmo, not just a devteam. Forgetting that is how even the biggest mmos lose massive numbers.

1. you can't know that people just "got better" 2. nice assuming things about me again 3. you said the exact same thing you said before with no rebuttal to raichu *again*, there's no way to justify the waste when the difficulty curve also isn't justified other than "the devs put it in, just accept it"

And I completely agree with Raichu here, and sadly have to agree with Senile as well. The game is going in a direction that is blatantly not casual player friendly like it used to be, the build is clearly trying to push people out of playing Pokemon as an mmo into playing a romhack dungeon mmo of Pokemon. One with inflated prices that make the casual player have to farm trainers and versus(and not breed because they probably haven't beaten the e4) just to get money. Of course I feel this is a bad direction for the game, it speaks of a competitive and frankly toxic mindset being pushed above people having fun and playing pokemon together. I joined this game because it had what people had been dreaming about since Pokemon came out, a way to play the same pokemon game with your friends. Well the game is moving away from that, sadly. I might quit, and I might not if the game continues in this direction. But you should really consider minor tweaks and changes, not to appease me like I've said, but for the good of all the casual players, because they're your staple tbqh. edit: you'll always have the people who pour time using a bot or walking back and forth to get comp teams, but they aren't healthy players and never will be. And I sincerely hope the dev team at least sees this and knows it's a problem.

I admit, most of the bashing of people simply commenting on the difficult was done from members but it certainly doesn't help that Xela essentially yells "no, the difficulty isn't bad, you don't get to not like it" whenever anyone says anything. Related to that, unless he's already beaten them with the Spindas, which as a play through of the game kind of prove my point that it would be no fun for casuals to play with sub-par pokes. Since he himself has stated that he's lost multiple times to the easiest gyms and had to use more Pokemon than he started with. So far all I'm seeing is mods desperately trying to hide the fact that there are people who don't like the update, the level caps, or the new difficulty curve. The main problem with which is that the only solution to a level cap is to either breed a better Pokemon than what you currently have or ev/iv a lower level one until it reaches the cap and is somewhat comp built. This is a deterrent to casual players in every way, it's fine not to like that, but you at least have to accept that this is not casual or new player friendly. And that's in a multitude of ways. And as a final point, since this is something that kept being brought up, I personally don't want to play extra hard dungeons. I don't want to make comp pokemon just to beat artificially difficult ai. I have been playing Pokemon since it came out, have played Pokemmo through Kanto and Hoenn (which is my favorite region ) and I am sorely disappointed at these changes. This is not what I play Pokemmo for. Not to be limited and forced halfway into competitive for content I'm not honestly very interested in. Never said I personally had trouble, just that I thought it was unfair to casual players and newbies. Please don't try to paint other people's experiences just because you want to one up them.

I didn't ask for advice, I was simply stating what the problems were related to this new update. So thanks for the off topic reply? As for your advice, new players and casuals won't know to do that and most of the comments here haven't been real advice. Most of it has been "I beat the e4 so you should be able to", guess what? That's now how skill levels work. Just because an experienced players who knows how to essentially game the system or have a technique to beat them doesn't mean the others will, or even that they should have to. It not only proves my point but strengthens it further that you call anyone who can't do it dumb or lazy because they haven't figured out a "trick" to win. I liked your post for the general advice even if the attitude of it is wrong.

No real offense meant here, but seriously? Are the mods and devs really so ignorant that they don't realize that just telling casual and new players to "git gud" or that they have "beaten it with no trouble" is not going to fix a glaring change in difficulty from the original games? This is an mmo that was, at least as far as I'm aware not meant to devolve into high tier absolutely toxic and bullying game from what I've seen the mods and more active members post, and respond to people with. Saying "lol I did it with 4 spindas" does not mean the casual or less experienced player should do that, or should have to do that. Anyone coming from the regular Pokemon games would likely hate this change, and simply quit when they see it. The e4 should have an updated AI, I agree, but should they have all comp movesets/IVs/EVs/Items? Absolutely not, you are just going to push away the bulk of your players halfway through the game when they stop having fun due to your "challenging game play to prepare the player" What if they don't want to play comp or against comp AI? What if they want to play through the game casually with friends? These used to be possible, not so much anymore with these levelcaps, inflated prices, and difficulty buffs I wouldn't have sounded so angry if the only posts I'd seen responding to people saying they'd had a hard time(esp from the mods and senior members) were more positive and didn't usually just brag about their own accomplishments or insult the person by telling them to, again, "git gud".

Thanks, that's a really cute avatar you got there.

Thanks, yeah it looks good now. Hope to see you guys around.

Hi my name is Arlasstar. I just started playing about a week ago, and have had some fun and met some really cool people. Hope to play this game for a really long time. Also does anybody know why my avatar is magikarp I changed it but it came back.