DrCraig

So what's the consensus?

Gotta make those banner lookin sigs I'd help if I wasn't poo at making them ;-;

How unprofessional for a member of the AFK council to derail a thread regarding his own field. This community...

You forgot about the physical/special split

Well you clearly disregarded my case study of Penguins weight in relation to their age in Lavaridge which prove your argument invalid.

Elcoolio provided me with this analysis of Lilycove from New Zealand and I beg to differ Flava. The statistics do not lie.

Through the multitudes of usage statistics I have calculated I think it is quite obvious that Lavaridge is used the most, thus is an S rank afk spot. Any opinions on if Lavaridge is meta defining?

I need more statistics

Agreed, we should discuss Lavaridge vs. Petalburg vs. Slateport pros and cons and make a viability ranking

nowhere to stand Petalburg, Lavaridge and Slateport are best we've calculated. We will soon conduct an organized approach at analyzing which location it is the most efficient to afk at.

Viridian was close to nothing Your arguement is invalid

meh

Mauville is awkward, yes! Start the movement!

#PilgrimageToSlateport

All this water & the boat to Kanto?! NEED I SAY MORE?!?!?!

I spent my first extended period of time sitting in Mauville and I realized it is the ugliest, empty, bland, tacky and awkward town in the game. Slateport just makes so much more sense since it is next to the boat + it has water which is the equivalent of the pond. There is nowhere to stand in fucking Mauville, no pond. Can we start a movement to Slateport? -insert hashtags-

Blissey for A One of the two best SDEF walls we have, not as good as snorlax in some aspects, better in others. Blissey is also the best cleric and I think it fits snugly at A.

Yea I'm agreeing with Orange on that, it's tough to counter gyara without throwing hp electric on something. Vapo is probably the best at it. Edit: Meta Defining = S

I'd put Skarmory in B+ along with Forrestress. It's basically a better defensive poke which can't spin. Best fit in B+, as it does have its own issue with its new physical weaknesses, and its usual lack of pressure. I want to say Snorlax is an S, but Dnite sets the bar too high I think. The Curse set does destroy, as it always has, but now with CB I think it need more support thus it would be a more fitting A+.

B imo Crunch/Rest/Firepunch/return or something along those means It has nice coverage, but it doesn't hit hard, and of course needs the support. Kanga is probably a B because there are better options

Stop being noobs

Not enough usage was taken and I don't think a cut off should be made yet to be honest. Usages aren't fully showing strength imo. A lot more officials are coming, notabley like 3 this week. We'll probably have to wait before any usage tiering begins.

This. It has way too many sets, way too many options, and it is a menace unless you can figure out its set. It does not have 4mss, it has a set for all these combinations which is effective.

Gengar should be an S because of its variety. There are countless numbers of gengar sets which support, wall and attack. Until you know what set a gengar is running, it can be unpredictable, and tricky to play around. The lack of predictability because of its huge movepool imo makes it an S Rank. Slowbro is probably the best physical wall we have right now which is a safe switch, has instant recovery (although not status recovery, and offensive pressure. Unless Slowbro checked or countered immediately it has free reign to regenerate health, and continue shelling out stab moves. Its defensive safe switches imo give it a place in S rank. I could also see it as a suitable A+ because of its great defensive characteristics, but need for a cleric. I see Gyarados as an A+ because of the support it needs. It is very powerful, even forcing some pokes to run an unconventional hp electric. However, I don't think its offensive ability is S worthy due to the need to set up, despite bulk/ability.

So basically make a link to the forum?