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Why are you posting that?

[quote name='kloneman' timestamp='1367952297' post='324630'] Just realized I was thinking of master balls lol. [/quote] Yeah, those are untradeable, was really sad when I couldn't trade any of the masterballs from my alts, though I understand why they did it.

[quote name='kloneman' timestamp='1367949835' post='324558'] You can't trade balls in PokeMMO. [/quote] Your information is incorrect sir, Traded a pokemon with an Ultraball attached to my alt account.

Islands were not decided on yet, we were just discussing it in game.

[quote name='Evesa' timestamp='1367950771' post='324589'] But everyone can do that. everyone would be able to catch them, so its fair game. its not like only your able to catch them. [/quote] If you allowed HMs, everyone would be able to use them so that would be fair game. If you allowed fly, everyone would beable to use it so fair game. If you allowed Gamecorner, everyone would beable to use them so fair game, if you allowed trading from accounts, everyone would beable to use them so fair game. That arguement doesn't stand up when you consider what has already been disallowed.

[quote name='Evesa' timestamp='1367950641' post='324585'] Cheat and disqualified. But that will take quite a while to get your pokemon to the high enough level. and you only have an hour. Everyone can do this also so its fair game. [/quote] Cut, diglett cave, on the islands with a Diglett in under 10 mins.

[quote name='Evesa' timestamp='1367950432' post='324577'] You are allowed on the islands. bear in mind, you start with a very low level Pidgey/Ratatta. its going to be hard to capture island pokemon at that level. [/quote] Ultraball. Catch one diglett in the cave, use diglett to catch Meowth/persian/other high catch rate, use high catch rate ones to catch harder to catch ones.

[quote name='TWDaryl' timestamp='1367949863' post='324559'] To do that, someone else has to help, right? 2 people will not cheat to benefit one player. [/quote] [quote name='kloneman' timestamp='1367950126' post='324567'] No you can't, try it now, I dare you. [/quote] Give me a moment, booting up my spare laptop. [quote name='Evesa' timestamp='1367950130' post='324568'] [center][b][u]Rules:[/u][/b][/center] [center]Bushido Members only.[/center] [center]No cheating.[/center] [center]it will be a single battle.[/center] [center]Have honor.[/center] [center]No flying or using repels.(bikes are allowed though)[/center] [center]all HM & TM moves banned except for Cut and flash.[/center] [center]No Trading from accounts.[/center] [center]No use of the gamecorner.[/center] [center][b][u]Time & Date:[/u][/b][/center] [center]Friday 10th May.[/center] [center]9 GMT. (so tournament starts at 10)[/center] [/quote] Looking for no island rule.

[quote name='kloneman' timestamp='1367949835' post='324558'] You can't trade balls in PokeMMO. [/quote] *Just gave a Pokeball to Raticate.* Yes you can.

[quote name='TWDaryl' timestamp='1367949520' post='324545'] Creating a fresh alt to start, that way we can pretty much ensure that only Pokeballs ect. are used. Someone can even stay on and invite all the alts to Bushido for the time being. We could all go to Viridian together. [/quote] Trading Ultraballs across on pokemon.

[quote name='Lucas' timestamp='1367949104' post='324533'] we'll ban the isles [/quote] Sounds fair.

[quote name='TWDaryl' timestamp='1367949380' post='324540'] Are we all using alts for this? If not, we should. [/quote] If we used alts then it wouldn't really be a Bushido event, it'd be an alts event.

[quote name='Lucas' timestamp='1367948802' post='324519'] we should be able to use flash and cut b/c you can't continue through kanto without both [/quote] Cuts down the tree infront of digletts cave, goes to vermillion, takes a boat to island 7. Profits. It doesn't say we have to make a new account for this, so you can make it to 90% of the areas without HMs...Just not quick.

No HMs, or I'll have some pretty tough pokemon in no time. I don't really see the point in a no repel rule.

Happy new ye- Oh wait, wrong cheer.

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[quote name='NaitDawg' timestamp='1367855182' post='323003'] Once again, this is not truly a "Veteran" channel. Please refer the first post. Channel 9 Is meant as a perk to players who stick around and to supply them with a higher quality channel. The hour requirement does not need to be raised as time goes on. You're also severely confused about how a perk system must be set up; You believe it must fit into some mold that you are comfortable with for some reason. That's very illogical. If a system works, the mold is unnecessary. However if you need a real life example, here goes it : After some months were spent working for the Disney Company, my uncle was able to take me to any Disney theme park for free and go anywhere I wanted. [/quote] There we go, a useable example. I used the term Veteran to refer to older players, as I stated previously older players would find the perk negligable, it was not in reference to your channel type. The perk would need to be raised or supplimented by a further perk as older players stick with the game even longer then they have already. I made no mention of a 'mold' as you say, I pointed out that an example of a perk must be the same as the perk it is an example of, extra sandwiches are not an example of area access, the Disney park example is though. Also I never requested a real life example, you were the first to go to real life for an example. My example was the global access restriction, I could also have used the Suggestion Forum access restriction as an example but I felt the chat channel example was more relevant to a channel suggestion. Anyway, you've given me an example of this system working. I still feel this sytem is flawed but I wont press the point further.

So many pages. @.@ When was Klone coming back again?

[quote name='NaitDawg' timestamp='1367853689' post='322980'] There is nothing impractical about deciding what works and implementing it. You have yet to say why the correct value is impractical. You just expect me to believe that it must be. [/quote] Because the correct value is contantly changing, the longer the game runs, the more time can be spent in game and the higher the hours the cap should be at to appease more veteran players. [quote name='NaitDawg' timestamp='1367853689' post='322980'] And to the sandwich example, who cares? Not every perk has to be on a ladder system. If you're old, you get a senior discount at Denny's Diner. I don't gradually get better discounts every 10 years. [/quote] If you're making an example of a specific perk, you must use one in the same perk type. Allowing access to a place once a criteria is met is a different kind of perk then granting extra items for buying items or getting something cheaper time and time again for meeting a criteria. They're inherently different.

[quote name='NaitDawg' timestamp='1367848364' post='322913'] This is pretty ridiculous, to be honest. It's a lot of flowery language, and it's worded quite well. But, you're really just saying that it is impossible to find the correct amount of hours as a requirement, and even if you do, it is unfair to people with more hours that don't get additional perks. Well, here's some information for you : 1. The staff decides when you can post in global 2. The staff decides when you can post in channel 3. The staff decides when you can post in trade 4. The staff decides when you can post in the suggestion forum 5. The staff decides when you can view certain subforums 6. The staff can decide when you can join channel 9. [/quote] The staff decide stuff, I know this and still don't see your point with that list. It's not impossible to find the correct value, it's just impractical. I'm sorry if you find the words I type to be 'flowery', but I don't really see the link between the way I type normally and the point I bring to the table. [quote name='NaitDawg' timestamp='1367848364' post='322913'] Lets seperate these silly theoretical models from reality. Is it impossible, anywhere at all, to give a small perk to the people who stick around? I get free stuff from movie theaters, coffee shops, sandwich shops, restaurants, and sports venues for free, because of my continued purchase of their services. I don't think anyone has complained about requiring me to buy more sub sandwiches. And getting a free sandwich does feel like a perk to me. [/quote] Nothing silly or theoretical about something already in the game. The big difference between your real life example and the game is that the real life stuff keeps giving you perks, you get more and more the longer you stick with them. And you're not buying the channel, but you are buying the sandwiches to get the free ones.

[quote name='Chestbrah' timestamp='1367836049' post='322758'] Why shouldn't veteran players get an perks? Obviously they are committed and have more invested than others.. Also maybe since this channel would be exclusive ordinary players might stick around longer because they want access which means more donations [/quote] You didn't actually address my point at all. I never said veteran players shouldn't get any perks. The problem comes when you address at what point the player has invested enough to get the perk. I'll put it this way, I'm almost at 1000 hours of gameplay, I've been playing the game since last August. Those at 100 hours, I consider as new to the game, unless ofcourse they've been mostly around the forums this whole time. Giving a channel whos only restriction is 100 hours of gameplay is negligable to me, I do not consider this channel a perk. Similarily, if someone had 10000 hours of gameplay they would consider me new to the game and a restriction of 1000 hours of gameplay would be negligable to them. Proof of this? Global. You need to have a number of badges before you can post there. Those with 100 hours of gameplay find this negligable so this is suggested, why? Because the perk of Global doesn't feel like a perk to them.

Adding a perk for players who have over 100 hours just because they're 'experienced at PokeMMO' is unfair to more experienced players who have 300 hours, they should get a higher perk...But adding a perk for players who have over 300 hours just because they're more experienced at PokeMMO is unfair to more experienced players who have played 500 hours, they should get a higher perk...But adding a perk for players who have over 500 hours just because they're more experienced at PokeMMO is unfair to more experienced players who have played 1000 hours, they should get a higher perk...But adding a perk for players who have over 1000 hours just because they're more experienced at PokeMMO is unfair to more experienced players who have played 2000 hours, they should get a higher perk...But adding a perk for players who have over 2000 hours...You get the point. In short, once you start handing out perks for more time played you have to keep handing out better perks for even more time played to keep things fair. Why should one experience base get their own private channel to seperate themselves from a less experienced base when the experience base higher then them doesn't get their own private channel to seperate themselves from the lower experience base?

[quote name='TWDaryl' timestamp='1367803149' post='322189'] Have you noticed how I never ask "Are you a boy or girl?". It's because I don't care. The only reason I tend to make friends with girls easier than others is because I'm friendly. [/quote] I thought it was because you're the Kazekage

[quote name='asheroth' timestamp='1367770193' post='321355'] What I think could be fun is a capture race. Everyone starts off in pallet or viridian (most likely Viridian since theres a pokecenter). Each person starts with a fresh Ratata or Pidgey caught from Route 1 as the only pokemon in their party. From there we all have 30 minutes (could be more or less it doesn't matter) to run out and catch or train whatever Pokemon we want using only the lowly pokeballs and your starting pokemon. At the end of the time we have a tournament with whatever team we caught/trained. Could be fun since you have to balance catching new pokemon vs training up who you have. This obviously will require a heck of a lot of honor system stuff but I don't see anyone wanting to win so badly that they'd cheat. One way we can work around this is having the winner of the final tournament giving their pokemon to someone to check the capture date/time. We could also put restrictions on it like "No using Fly" or "No tm's or hm's at all" those kinds of things. Just an idea. [/quote] I like this idea.

[quote name='ThinkNice' timestamp='1367751888' post='321101'] I have terrible luck with catching and battling this period :/ So nothing new here. [/quote] Ouch, hope you have some better luck soon then. Edit: [s]Anyone else having trouble leaving messages in the Bushido thread? I've posted about three times there and they seem to vanish every few mins.[/s] Nevermind, found the cause.