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[quote name='Dev' timestamp='1365123082' post='266542'] Well in having the real world. I was thinking that we would be able to have some of those original 13 be well known people in history. Or they could be random people. Also, with this, it would be a very gritty, dark, game. [/quote] I don't think we're seeing eye to eye on the direction of this at all though. Have you played Mother 3? That's the kind of 'darkness' that would work in this kind of game, it's not TOO dark, also still allows for a light mood and comedic moments and whatever lol.. Also, still reminds me too much of Digimon. [quote name='AstroSpud' timestamp='1365123037' post='266540'] Perhaps a legendary comes to you at an early point and grants you the gift of poke-speech. [/quote] Could be that, too. Maybe Arceus has a role in this plot?

[quote name='CipherWeston' timestamp='1365122313' post='266513'] I've been keeping up to date with this thread, I want to help out, but I have no idea how. :/ [/quote] For now, contribute and discuss story ideas I guess [quote name='Dev' timestamp='1365122387' post='266515'] Here's a rough idea I just got. --------------------------------------------- -2 Universes, Our world and Pokemon World -3 years ago, 13 people were brought to their world as an experiment by an unnamed professor. When brought over, they gained the ability to control powerful pokemon easily than the habitats of this world. They are nicknamed “The Gifted” and the professor mysteriously disappears. -Within a year, 10 of the Gifted become incredibly powerful and start to wage battles to rise to power in the region. These people are renamed as the “Titans”. -The remaining 3 trainers oppose this idea and believe that the world should stay the way it was, with pokemon and human being equals. They are overpowered and vanish, they have yet to be seen since. -The Titans split the lands and oceans up and take control of different parts of the world. The strongest trainer taking ownership of both Kanto and Johto. -It is now present day and the world is at an uneasy peace due to the control the titans exert on the people and their pokemon. -In a lab, Bill, the PokeManiac, and a professor now struggle to bring another person to this world to attempt to right the wrongs they did. -They are only given enough time to send one person back, perhaps this is the human that will bring balance back to the world? [/quote] We're making one or two regions that aren't already existant. This idea reminds me of Digimon too much, and it doesn't really work with anything we've had going. It is entirely too unrealistic to try to create more than two regions for a game because of a serious balancing problem when it comes to the wild pokemon, etc. I love the enthusiasm and everything but it really doesn't work here for this particular game. [quote name='Misfire33' timestamp='1365122669' post='266522'] This seems awesome so far. All I can say is that the almost Mega Man-esque idea of having all the gyms open, but going up in levels as you do, is cool but impractical for story reasons. On the other hand, if you could connect it with that other dude's idea that the Gym leaders are corrupt cronies of some bad dudes, you could have all the gym leaders replaced after defeating the E4; then have a postgame focusing on defeating the new leaders and E4. If you did that, then the story is out of the way, and you have more content. Yaay! Also, other dimensions could make for way more interesting stuff than a boss fight. Maybe during the postgame, certain dimensional rifts would appear as a result of your bro/whoever's meddling, in which you could catch rare Pokemon/Pokes with different abilities, like in the Dream World. [/quote] Very good points you raise here. I don't quite understand the last bit though, care to elaborate? [quote name='Misfire33' timestamp='1365122904' post='266531'] ^ Yo. Universal Poketranslator. (The professor's invention?) [/quote] Yeah, a key item could work It'd just be one that always works after you obtain it rather than having to manually use it.

You start off in the first town, father has to take a job in the city. You say goodbye to your friends. You move to new town. Brother is angry. Brother joins bad group. He convinces you to steal Pokemon. Professor catches you Promises not to tell and gives you the Pokemon if you pay off your debt to him (blackmail). You do an errand for the professor, he gives you the Pokedex as a sort of "community service". You get mad at your bother for joining this bad group. He challenges you to a battle, you win. He runs away from home. You start your adventure by going to the next town and taking the Gym challenge. [color=#ff0000][insert rival or plot event here][/color] etc etc etc. You see your brother one day in the city. He's now high ranking in Annex. He ignores you. You vow from that day you will get your brother back by bringing down Annex. You continue with your journey, shit happens, skip forward to the ending. Absol appears alongside Slowking, warning of a great disaster to come. Group Annex has control of a corporation or two, kind of like or even this region's branch of Silph Co, and has put Master Balls into production(whereas originally there was only one, maybe now they've created up to 10). They capture Mewtwo, and maybe Palkia and Dialga. They start working on a device to control even the most stubborn pokemon, including legendaries, to use their powers at will. Mewtwo goes rogue and steals the device when it's created for his own reasons. Whatever they may be. Creates multiple space-time clones of himself. Group Annex tries to stop him, but he ends up taking them out. Your brother stands to fight him. You show up just too late, see your brother die. Maybe somehow you gain the ability to speak to Pokemon without Slowking after that. Idk, ideas on that? It would be permanent and you could talk to other pokemon earlier in the game. You fight through Mewtwo's forces and when you find the real one, he has Kyogre under his control and threatens to flood the world. Don't really know what else could happen. Still a lot of plot holes.

I kind of like it, but don't like the time skip and giving back the pokemon. With this system, if you gave back the pokemon it would remove it from you completely and when you 'got it back' it would just be a new pokemon. Also, with the Black and White overworlds, the characters don't have mouths so he couldn't smirk or anything like that. I do like where this is going however.

Any of TeamFourStar's DBZ Abridged.

Lol I will. Got peoples attention though

[quote name='HerpDerpBox' timestamp='1365111519' post='266107'] You should write a book. [/quote] Haha you have no idea. Speaking of which, that brings to mind my days in the Occupy Wall Street movement. Maybe we can have the organization running an evil corporation, or multiple, which are ruining the businesses of the smaller pokemarts and causing inflation? Just kidding guys. Really. Just kidding.

[quote name='kloneman' timestamp='1365110779' post='266067'] Where have you been man? Long time no see, this is a great looking game you've got here. [/quote] Haha done with the alt, eh? ;D I have been learning to tattoo, moved to two different states, had a girlfriend and a job and got hit by a car in the time I've been away from PokeMMO. Girlfriend was a cheating whore and my leg's still healing from getting hit by a car lmao. And thanks, trying to make this game the best we can.

Hey Kris, thanks for signing up and posting finally. I don't think we should really worry about the legendary trio though until we have a clear idea of the plot. That should come later and they can be tied in with it, just like the others in a way. Another option for a dark event, maybe instead of blowing a city up something happens to get your brother killed..? I mean, that happens in a game Spoiler alert which game... [spoiler] Mother 3[/spoiler] cough cough... but it happens differently and effects the plot in a much different way. I dunno. Opinions?

[quote name='Riotpopper' timestamp='1365108200' post='265922'] The pokemon follower script worked fine for me when I tested it. Are you sure it isn't just something you accidentally tweaked? I'd suggest reinstalling the essentials kit. You can dot hat without changing any current saves or maps/data. [/quote] Which one did you use, and are you using Pokemon Essentials version 11? I've only read it was incompatible. Also. We could have it so the organization comes up with a device that allows for the taming of even the most stubborn pokemon, which Mewtwo gets ahold of. Blows up a city and kills your best friends or something. At the end of the game, either Mewtwo realizes his error and uses Dialga and Palkia, or Arceus steps in and recognizes your courage and reverts things to how they were before that

[quote name='Quesoman' timestamp='1365105559' post='265833'] Would the idea of two simultaneous stories be too hard to pull off technically or in terms of plot? Many franchises have explored this idea in the past, but I can imagine the extra workload needed to bring this foward be a barrier, specially if you're limited in coders. [/quote] Sorry, I was a little vague. I didn't mean put the two stories in at the same time, I meant find a way to meld them into one. Other ideas included meeting the talking Slowking when Arceus comes to warn of disaster(as is his purpose), and Slowking acts as a Translator of the Legendaries. Dialga/Palkia with space/time could mean you could potentially fight a shadow version of yourself with your same pokemon, time travel... and this. One idea was that the organization somehow captured Mewtwo but he escaped and went Rogue, going about the business of the organization but being MORE evil than they were, and by using either Dialga or Palkia he could create armored(like in the beginning of the first movie) space-time clones of himself that the player has to fight off for a bit. Again, doesn't have to be used, but I was just sharing some of the ideas.

[quote name='TheGloriousWalrus' timestamp='1365078358' post='265178'] Team rocket is pretty much over. [/quote] This. It'd be a new group altogether. [quote name='Dahaka' timestamp='1365085170' post='265278'] Remove brony pandering and jumpeon and you have an 8/10 idea. Keep it the way it is now and it's -5/10. [/quote] dont crie, ponys were a joke because of Global chat. I asked them what they wanted to see in a Pokemon fan game and the only reply was Ponies, and a barrage of replies about MLP. And Jumpeon... lmao... who knows. Probably won't be introduced but it would really make this game [u][b]PokeMMO-ish[/b][/u]. [quote name='Akshit' timestamp='1365090014' post='265418'] Its not necessarily has to be Team Rocket...it can be called whatever he/majority wants...I'm just suggesting..It would be cool if game rival turns out to be a part of the plot instead of being just an irritating person who keeps showing up randomly and then runs away again.. [/quote] I'm going to get into what we already had a little bit with my reply to Quesoman, so read that bit: [quote name='Quesoman' timestamp='1365091182' post='265457'] Since you mentioned the game series 'Mother', it occuerd to me, would you be interested in including more serious/real life topics in the storyline? I know the Mother series deals with police brutality, loss of childhood and other dark subjects, but didn't expose them outright. It'd be interesting if you can interwine hidden motifs within the game, giving it that much more depth. Pokemon B&W explored this idea to some extent with animal cruelty. You'd want examples to introduce in the story I suppose. Since I don't know the general outline, or if it's defined yet, I can't begin to adapt my ideas to the existing content. [/quote] Yes, I'd very much like to throw in some somewhat subtle dark tones in there, and if it goes a little more than subtle, hey, it's cool. [quote name='Quesoman' timestamp='1365091182' post='265457'] You could be a member of an organization from the beginning, or join one during the story, and watch you struggle against the established order within, be it good or bad. (Two characters could introduce two alternate perspectives of the same story?) The organization would be presented one way or another depending on who you choose (evil/good, it'd have to be convincing). Have this person, and the admins of this organization be the equivalent of rivals in the game, and get them to rat it out at every opportunity, throwing arguments both ways.[/quote] This right here makes it so I HAVE to type out what we had all along, my friend and I, before we brought this to PokeMMO. The original idea is that in the beginning of the game, your small town you start off in, you're moving. Like right away. Your dad's blunt about it, he's going to go work as a researcher for Professor Hemlock, and your older brother is pissed. You see your two friends, one of them gives you running shoes, and you move. Eventually you'll reunite with them later in-game. When you get to the city, your brother falls in with a bad crowd, ends up joining the evil group "Group Annex". Somehow, don't know how yet, he convinces you to sneak into the professor's lab and steal a pokemon. You get caught, but since your father works for him he takes pity on you and decides not to tell him so long as you do an errand(sidequest) and when you return, he gives you a Pokedex. That was the current idea. The original idea didn't have an older brother and it saw the player and his two friends starting a club. The club gets a little out of hand when the male friend starts running things in the wrong direction, and it eventually becomes the evil group. Near the end of the game, in that story, you finally defeat your friend but there was still damage he caused by whatever with the legendaries, so he has to once again fight alongside you, blah blah blah. Could potentially throw these two plots together somehow, change the friend to your brother, make you join the 'good' team, etc etc. [quote name='Quesoman' timestamp='1365091182' post='265457'] Maybe create new starters/legendaries (they have to be important to the storyline) that start out black and white, but evolve into greyish colours, to symbolise the complexity of the real world. Have the player doubt if the cause they chose at the start is as good and straightfoward as they thought.[/quote] Very nice idea. Didn't think of anything like that. I like the way you think. [quote name='Quesoman' timestamp='1365091182' post='265457'] You could include a non-linear set of gyms, that level up accordingly to the amount of badges you have. The objective of the game could be to become the Champion to get a widespread message across the pokeworld, rather than just to prove you're the best.[/quote] Unless we have a really good coder, I don't see that one happening. I honestly don't know how I'd get that one to work. [quote name='Quesoman' timestamp='1365091182' post='265457'] The sidequests idea is a great one! We definitely need more of those in pokemon games. In essence, explore the limits of what you can include in this game, and make it more complex than the average hack [/quote] Exactly what I'd want to do. Make it meaty enough to stand out in the fan game scene, and have people look to the PokeMMO community because of it. /vp/ is making their own Pokemon game right now, and it'd be pretty friggin cool if PokeMMO outdid them. [quote name='Akshit' timestamp='1365097715' post='265628'] But this is still so offtopic...anymore of that and I'm reporting... [/quote] Well this IS the offtopic board, and they're expressing their opinions... I don't think it's an issue haha. [quote name='Akshit' timestamp='1365097715' post='265628'] Btw,I had another suggestion for the game...perhaps we Can be a Mastermind villain all along...and in the end we realize that the people we were fighting were of Secret Anti-crime department who came to stop us...Though it would require some seriously awesome and twisted dialogues along the whole journey...we will make our friends in-game(eg. brock) believe that its a bad organisation behind us and the player playing the game will believe it too....until the very plot turning unexpected end......(I got the idea from the "No Shit Sherlock" photo...dont ask how :/) [/quote] We're having a completely new region with all new characters. And maybe we can have some kind of crazy plot twist at the end, just don't know what we can do yet. Let's try to settle a real aim for the game first

Cool. I'm done procrastinating sleep for now. I'll be back at this in a few hours lol

[quote name='TheGloriousWalrus' timestamp='1365075936' post='265132'] There will be a whole bunch of new pokemon I assume as this is a complete new region? [/quote] That wasn't the goal... in fact there weren't supposed to be MANY fakemon. Mainly what my friend and I wanted to do was take select pokemon from the first 5 gens and cut the dex down to 250, keeping it balanced, but we have room for a handful of fakemon to make the game unique.

[quote name='justicewhale' timestamp='1365075633' post='265126'] This seems awesome I will be glad to help with sprites and graphics if you need any [/quote] Sure, just post some of your work to show what you can do (Overworld sprites, trainer sprites, or tiles, or whatever it is you do best). Just keep in mind this game uses BW style overworlds and trainer sprites (and pokemon in-battle sprites) with a mixture of DPPT, HGSS and BW1&2 tiles(don't know exactly how that will work out yet but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it haha.)

[quote name='AstroSpud' timestamp='1365074583' post='265118'] Here's a kind of different, but basic plot. Evil ruler. (champion) 4 bodyguards ( elite four) You set out to defeat ruler. Ruler has 'sub-rulers' in each major city you must defeat first. (gym leaders) Ruler wants to open inter-dimensional portal to catch powerful pokemon (legendary) You must stop him, etc. Now all you need is the details like city names and stuff that I can't be bothered to think of. [/quote] I like that idea, like a monarch that could also be the leader of the criminal organization, corrupting his way into the Elite 4 system and becoming the region champion, sounds pretty cool. I don't know about the gym leaders being his goons, though it could be pretty cool too... though they'd stay as gym leaders after you beat them and obtained their badges I'd assume which is a plot hole as far as taking down the organization goes. I've also finished the first sheet for Nurse Joy, but I haven't done the smaller sheet that has her bowing animation yet, luckily that's only 4 frames. [img]http://i49.tinypic.com/zuo4.png[/img]

I usually prefer Norse mythology anyways But unless there's some big plot twist having to do with Greek mythology specifically, I still don't understand why we're going with that. I'm sure Dev'll give a good reason though, I'm just confused in the meantime.

Those should be the 3 side legendaries then, as per Pokemon tradition.

[quote name='Dev' timestamp='1365071769' post='265077'] It will fit in with your horses. The story, and several other ideas. [/quote] I edited the last post before you quoted it. I'd like to see what you mean as far as it tying in with things. The ponyta thing is really not important lol. It's just there.

Does that tie in with the story somehow..? Otherwise, I don't see why we'd go with a greek mythological theme. Though I do like the towns and the types used by the trainers, maybe we could just change their names.

[quote name='Dev' timestamp='1365069538' post='265040'] Nurse Joy? There's a Normal gym in my plot, already got it covered:) [/quote] Cool. Maybe we can make one as a trainer you run into a few times or something. [quote name='Akshit' timestamp='1365069581' post='265041'] Yeah seems cool....would love to see something like that...Also her 6th Poke can be Miltank. [/quote] ...rollout.... -shudders- [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/313g5zt.png[/img] A little progress update on that. EDIT: @Smashbro: lol exactly, you beat me to it.

I'm going to make custom actual Nurse Joy overworld sprites instead of the lame one they have in the games at the Pokemon center. this one will be based on the anime's Nurse Joy. Also, could anyone entertain the idea of a nurse joy trainer, maybe one growing up with a Happiny or Chansey who decides instead of medicine she'd become a trainer/gym leader instead? Just a thought, doesn't have to go anywhere.

[quote name='AstroSpud' timestamp='1365066157' post='265001'] Is there any general theme to the storyline? Or a storyline at all? That should come before everything else. [/quote] Dev's currently working on the story and will have it back to us in a while. We can go from there with it EDIT: @Hemlock: We can always use sidequests and things to make the game have a richer story and all that. Check this out actually, it was from my old game haha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyDXVgc694s

[quote name='Dev' timestamp='1365065505' post='264981'] I have an idea. Leave me the history and a basic rundown of the gym leaders, I'll give you it in 45mins to an hour. [/quote] Didn't really have them planned out, I was going to leave that open to the boards to decide. You're free to come up with something and we can always tweak it if things need changing later however. I'd like to get a playable demo of this out soon even with the player characters still being default Black and White characters(until we have our own, which my friend is drawing up at the moment).

[quote name='Riotpopper' timestamp='1365064801' post='264964'] I'll give it a look over and see what can be done about it. It shouldn't be too hard to update it to a working state. [/quote] Awesome, thanks a lot. I'm probably going to call it a night soon, I'd like to see what ideas people can come up with still. Anyone have any ideas what we should use in place of the 3 legendary dogs/regis/etc? Or maybe use the legendary dogs?