DrCraig

Well that's nifty.

Alright why is this thread so quiet, idc if there has been a tourney or not Espy can Psychic/Signal Beam sweep the whole tier the few pokemon, like Aggron, which can come in get shit on by HP Water I really don't want to see Espeon in any of the upcoming tournaments, can I get a TC verdict or atleast a discussion Edit: What can safely come in and safely dispose of Espeon in UU?

I really like this Pidgey Noice work

Gligod

I didn't ask for the bracket.

Why is the bracket never in the OP anymore?

Yay Xela is staying up past his bedtime!

64 people aww

ain't donating shit

lol better hope CiX doesn't host

IGN: gunthug

Just because they were posted doesn't mean they have to be replied to. The meta is still new, they can sit there and collect dust for all I care until discussion kicks up.

Forgot the leftovers So I don't see many pokes that can stop a Dodrio with CB with legit resistances. Here are calcs vs. pokes that are actually relevant switch ins. I also want to point out running Steel Wing > Pursuit is not that extreme. It gives Dodrio legit coverage which can be more valuable than trapping. Solrock 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 86-102 (48.5 - 57.6%) -- 45.3% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Low Kick (100 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 62-73 (35 - 41.2%) -- 66.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Solrock: 54-65 (30.5 - 36.7%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery Lunatone 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Lunatone: 102-120 (57.6 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Low Kick (100 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Lunatone: 72-85 (40.6 - 48%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Lunatone: 64-76 (36.1 - 42.9%) -- 96.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Golem 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Golem: 112-132 (59.8 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Golem: 66-78 (35.2 - 41.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO Scizor 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Scizor: 67-79 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Armaldo 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Armaldo: 78-92 (42.8 - 50.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Armaldo: 66-78 (36.2 - 42.8%) -- 98% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Steelix 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 80-96 (43.9 - 52.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Misdreavus 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Misdreavus: 90-106 (53.8 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Misdreavus: 52-62 (31.1 - 37.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery Banette - Not very relevant, but its there 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Banette: 85-102 (49.7 - 59.6%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Cradily 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Low Kick (80 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cradily: 90-108 (46.6 - 55.9%) -- 17.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cradily: 78-94 (40.4 - 48.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 52 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Drill Peck vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cradily: 66-80 (34.1 - 41.4%) -- 67.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Omastar 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Omastar: 58-70 (32.7 - 39.5%) -- 9.2% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Shuckle 252 Atk Choice Band Dodrio Steel Wing vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 44-52 (34.6 - 40.9%) -- 52.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Alright so I know calcs don't mean everything, but Dodrio can sweep a good portion of tier. Nevertheless after doing some research ^ there are a good few walls which can stop it or slow it down. Not all of these have reliable status recovery, some aren't even viable as a whole, but they stop it to some degree. Late game I think Dodrio can be devastating of course, but not as much as I previously thought. I'm thinking it would be fine in UU now, but definitely an S Tier Viability and if it was to be moved up to BL I could understand. Does anybody believe it goes above that to BL? Added to OP.

I like how it doesn't matter when they're made.

>white people pls Vaeldras pls

Ign: DrCraig

Was doing Adamant for the sake of showing damage

YES BOWSER YES That album is the shit

Never said Exeggutor shit on them, I said they are shit as a whole. Ninetails and Rapidash are not that effective in the tier. Please read Felix..

4+ SpA Exeggutor Sludge Bomb vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shiftry: 136-162 (81.9 - 97.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Shiftry Faint Attack vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Exeggutor: 162-192 (80.1 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Exeggutor Sludge Bomb vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shiftry: 166-196 (100 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO Yea Shiftry is pretty safe unless Exeggutor uses its 4th slot for Sludge Bomb, also giving it some extra coverage that isn't too situational. [spoiler]Being devil's advocate for the sake of discussion[/spoiler]

Rapidash is walled easily in the tier, its obviously falling in NU. Using rapidash is a bad idea. Before the update everybody was scared of Ninetails gaining Solar Beam and Calm Mind. A few weeks pass and everybody realizes it really isn't as good as it seems. It holds a tiny role in teams, has little room to come in, and little room to set up. Ninetails seems good on paper, but I would never put too much faith in it. Flareon is the most viable fire type and I think it holds itself up well vs. Exeggutor, and a majority of the tier. Most of its opportunities it has to come in, it can do big damage. Ninetails can come in on the same pokemon, but it can't do anything to them because it is special. Rapidash is shit.

1. I have not done 1 UU battle yet, I was asked to make this. 2. Rapidash is complete shit, and Ninetails is in limbo between being viable or not. If anything Flareon should be considered.

Why is this topic even being entertained, it's general discussion rage spam.

I'm really not a fan of that perish trapping set, it's pretty ridiculous how easily it traps pokes. Nevertheless Superpower is very common and there are a lot of physicals which could probably 2hko.