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5 minutes ago, Kyu said:

NPC trainers aren't scaling properly to post-E4 levels atm (they're currently capping @ high 30s/mid 40s). It'll be fixed during the next update, which will increase most to high 40s/low 50s.

 

With regards to the balancing scheme, there are a few reasons why it is being changed:

• Due to the volume/value of rematch NPCs, a lot of people only farmed these NPCs, which means other portions of the game weren't seen, and players wouldn't explore the different methods of gaining money. These NPCs were created in a time where there were literally no other methods of gaining money, and I think we have enough alternate sources to where we can stop putting so much emphasis on them.
• The EXP aspects on these are an entirely different topic, but the gist of that is "if our players are only farming Youngsters for EXP, we've probably done something wrong." This is one of the reasons we added EXP gain to the Trainer Tower, although it's been disabled for a year due to a level scaling bug.
• We want to focus people on things like horde farming (and other overworld events which are upcoming) rather than these NPCs, so that players accumulate money through Pickup, gain crafting materials in order to participate in the world's economy, and so that the game encourages more wild encounters (with a side-effect of players having higher chances of encountering shinies, because they're not farming Ladies every 6 hours).
• We want to focus rewards on harder content, so that players can develop their skills against AI in order to later participate in dungeons / PvP. This means the majority of rewards are going to be focused on "end-game" NPCs like the Trainer Tower, Gym Leaders, and the Elite 4. While these aren't scaled perfectly at the moment (BP instances are being reworked in the coming weeks, and Gym Leaders are currently a little too hard for my tastes although they're also receiving a ~15% buff on rematches), we will be looking to expand Unova's NPC battles which would give a higher volume of rematchable NPCs, as well as the natural things in the region which are currently missing (e.g. Big Stadium / Little Court).

And it is that way you ruin even more, now how are we going to buy things if the money that the NPCs give is quite low? There is no way to start in your beloved "Economy" you have ruined that aspect, if your methodology is that, then when people make money somewhere else they will also take it away? No, I suppose, I think you did it so that we played longer, and they ruined it.

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And is that I keep the same, to lower the level and money to the NPC, the economy will go down when the days pass, a change that will be too obvious for the entire MMO, and that is enough to look at the Global chat to see the number of users dissatisfied with this change, probably many players are going to play Unova, and that is not a hypothesis, it is a reality.

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2 minutes ago, Staggiie said:

It's correct, I'm doing a money run right now just to see what all the fuss is about (seeing as I made the NPC guide on the forums here) Trainer's that previously were giving 5-6k+ are giving 2k-2.5k
HOWEVER
Their pokemon's levels have significantly decreased as well. Use to be 50-60 lvls now are in the mid 30s. So I'm hoping after I rebattle these that when I go to rebatttle them after the 6 hour cooldown it will have raised in difficulty therefore raising the payout. I dunno tho, this could be permanent but I'm hoping it isnt seeing as rematching trainers with mere level 30s makes zero sense for post game players. 

If anyone is able to rematch an NPC for a 2nd time since the update, let me know please what the levels are and the payouts. I cant rematch them for another 5.5 hours or I would do it myself obviously.  

 

Hi, Staggie! The truth is a pleasure to meet a person as dedicated as you, although I knew your NPC translation guide in Spanish, I admire your wonderful work. Unfortunately NPCs do not increase the payment by doing a revamcha, I waited 6 hours (Wasted) To find exactly the same payment, and same level of Pokemon. Greetings again.

4 minutes ago, FuzzyRegirock said:

Why are you guys even fighting about this do you want this thread to be locked? I think the OP brought up a discussable issue and you guys are just going to get it locked

 

Exactly, the topic has no reason to be closed as such, but honestly see a lack of respect for the opinions of others is not something passable, and that's why I generalized it as a "Rat Kid" because wanting to IMPOSE your opinions is not something respectable.

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2 minutes ago, wonderland said:

Okay kiddo , keep on crying ;) But the fact still remains, you don't even donate and you keep on crying :((

 

And we continue with the inconsistencies on your part, a pity to discuss with children like that, but nothing can be done, because people like you never change, I hope at least after 15 change your way of thinking and be more open.

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1 minute ago, wonderland said:

Yeah ! Byee~

 

3 minutes ago, wonderland said:

Yeah ! Byee~

 

Oh, wow! Typical thought of a rat child, how old are you? Go, believe you older simply by being a conformist is something very idiotic hahaha. In fact, have something in mind, when people do not find anything beyond Unova and earn money, what will they do? You are not maintaining your own point of view, you are simply trying to defend the indefensible, for which you lack your own judgment, a pity.

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Just now, wonderland said:

Simple Answer: Go Quit Bye! This is not a place for people who is used to the old ways 

 

Oh, then all the members that we like to fight with NPCS, do we have to leave the game? Wow, I would be surprised if it happened, because the only ones that would adapt would be the new ones, and because they would be conformists because they did not see a better method. Thanks for showing great idiocy in that comment.

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2 minutes ago, Kite said:

I know there is 3 Regions, but if the pay outs of the trainers rebattling (including gyms/e4) is too low (which I believe some of the good NPCs in kanto went from 6k payout apparently to 2k which a team member informed me of) then there is something wrong. Not saying this is 100% the case though.

 

Moreover, if I do not discuss the money, I discuss the experience. I do not care if they want to balance the regions, by doing this they will waste time on their players, who probably want to try alternatives, because a game where you have to dedicate an incredible time to obtain something, which was previously obtained in less time, is not viable for 70% of the players. I lead a team, do you want to know the reactions of the members to see what happened? Yes, they did not like it a bit. If what you want, is to leave players, do it, but honestly have to see the opinion of the members of this game.

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2 minutes ago, Gilan said:

With 3 regions a ton of cash is generated by new players running through those regions. That is probably the biggest source of yen for the economy.

 

I don't think gym rebattles are the best source of income anymore. Likely catching breeders (and breeding) along with everstone hunting are probably better (everstone demand is gonna be really high soon).

 

I need to take a closer look at gym rebattles to really make sure they aren't worth it anymore (like I need to get optimal teams and strategies and determine yen/hour), and if it is too low I'll be making suggestions to up the payouts.

And us, Kanto's? Are we destined to be in a loop where we will never get a high income source?
To remove the NPC farm, I am COMPLETELY sure that if we were to campaign for many MMO players to come and complain, how many would come?
I do not like to breed, do you know why? because the expense of what I created comes from the NPC.
It is totally impossible that they have even thought of decreasing the money, people spend TOO MUCH time getting it, and now they will have to wait even longer for them to finally get the amount they expect.

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1 minute ago, Kizhaz said:

Los pagos se han modificado para que todas las regiones otorguen una cantidad similar de ingresos, ninguna región otorga más que otra. Unova solo tiene una ventaja debido a que es nueva y la gente no tiene cosas de Unova

 

Worse still, we will waste twice as much time as we spent farming, we would spend at least 3 hours a day, now what, all the pokes will decrease to level 20, and we will earn 500 $, because according to what you say, when Johto arrives and Sinnoh, they will reduce us more the money, they will force us to be stuck in front of the PC 6 hours a day to obtain a million in 4 weeks?
No, sorry, but by making all regions give similar income we are tied to farm in all of them.

13 minutes ago, raddevil said:

Bien, mejor sería una nueva forma de ganar dinero porque realmente arruinaron la rutina de molienda de dinero que la mayoría de la gente tenía. Y la élite cuatro y los gimnasios son aburridos y lentos ahora con todos esos nuevos golpes y habilidades y animaciones. Si no tenemos algo nuevo para comenzar a ganar dinero rápidamente, la economía se hundirá tan rápido y la gente se sentirá tan frustrada que la actualización matará a la comunidad en lugar de salvarla.

Exactly, farmear is even worse with all the good animations, if the economy continues to deteriorate well, I will be honest, it is FULLY probable that they lose several valuable players, because it is really very complicated that we have to be farmeando in all regions, is it what are you looking for?

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Just now, FuzzyRegirock said:

Everything is subject to change, and as @KaynineXL said there are probably even better new methods for making money in game in Unova that hasn't been discovered yet. The developers would have had to have a reason to lower the payout of the NPCs to balance it with something else ingame. Also, there are a ton of outdated guides out there regarding various other subjects from updates past.

Is it so difficult to understand my point?
I doubt it very much, but good:
And those of us who just want to stay in Kanto, are we destined to never get good sums of money and experience?
Yes, they made a great effort and I admit it, but everything was fine until I saw that EXPERIENCE also came down!

It's not about going region by region, we're talking about KANTO AND HOENN, I'm not very interested in what they do with Unova, but then Kanto and Hoenn where they are, in the background?
No, it is disappointing and it will not stop being only because they have added MILLIONS of ways to obtain money, I lasted 12 hours farming 1 million in total money, (Obviously not followed) and now what, I am obliged to spend Unova to obtain the money I need?

Thanks to this new method, I was totally without money having the confidence of being able to farm them in another 2 weeks, oh, and what am I? level modifications, from 50 to approximately 36!
No, sorry, but it is impossible to share your points, and not because you are not open to them, but because they have no way of staying.

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7 minutes ago, FuzzyRegirock said:

I personally really like the update, I'll admit there are things that I need to get used to, but overall I thought it greatly improved the game from its 2017 state. Also, if you are unhappy with a certain aspect of the game, create a suggestion to improve that aspect instead of complaining about it on the forums

And what else do I do?
It is not a suggestion, the update is even more imperfect than the PTS itself, they are forcing us to farm HOURS AND HOURS, from head to toe to take out a small amount of money, now what, are we going to pay the coins with money for real? No, right?

In fact I'm sure they will not listen to my suggestion, because they always do so, ensuring economic stability that does NOT exist, I spend 4 hours a day farming 300K with the NPC, which is the only way to get a quick cash , and that even wastes a lot of time, so that in the end they take it away from us, USERS MADE GUIDES, wasting their time to make exact calculations, and what do you do with your work?
Wow, how incredible.
 

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Okay, after trying the game for a while I have come to the conclusion that you have not been able to ruin the game anymore, after they REMOVE A LOT OF MONEY FROM THE NPC, REDUCE THE LEVEL EVEN, more people can not be disappointed with these changes. I am one of those who kept awake getting money with the NPC, and now you come to destroy that work in this update.

They always do the same thing, first they take the parents in parenting, and now this?
I've been playing this for 3 years, and although the 3 years ago version was unstable, it has a great improvement over the updates, because I do not know what you are looking for, but the only thing that attracts users lately is the new ones regions, because thanks to you millions of people left, I do not know if you seek to improve the game or to deteriorate it, but you are managing to damage it to the maximum, it is INCREDIBLE to see that I have wasted so much time in this, so that in the end the only thing they do is to damage the game, throwing it away ALL those days I wasted playing this game.

-Gohanea

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2 minutes ago, Ninkyo said:

Well, is there a way to "improve" 'em to tier 3? where are tier 3...? that's pretty lame

 

They do not give anything to understand in that changelog .-.

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1 minute ago, axx said:

Yes, farming NPCs sucks now.

 

That shit, now if that ruined the only way to farmear well, so much that it takes time for this : C

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Hello friends, I have a big question, what happened to the way to get money in the game? I saw in the Changelog, and this text appears but I honestly do not understand what it refers to: Monetary / EXP scaling of common trainer rematches in Kanto / Hoenn have been rescaled Tier 1 trainers now scale from levels 9 ~ 40 Tier 2 trainers now scale from levels 9 ~ 48 Tier 3 trainers now scale from levels 9 ~ 56 This does not affect instanced / special trainers, such as Gym Leaders or the Elite 4. Honestly, if the coaches have been so low on money, it's a real disappointment. 

 

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