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So doing another run, this is the route I tokk. It seems like this route that maximizes teleport use and avoids most unnecessary walking. Could be further improved. -From Littleroot go up to route 103, beat rival then teleport back to old dale. -Go to Rustboro use PC and beat Gym. -Go to Rustsurf Tunnel, do stuff then teleport back to Rustboro -Go to Dewford and use PC. Beat Gym then head into Granite Cave. Dig out once you speak with steven then teleport back. -Go through slateport then mauville. Use PC and get HM06 (Rockasmash). -Head to Vendenturf town, get HM04 (strength) then teleport back to Mauville. -Route 111/112/fiery path/route 113/Fallarbor town/route 114/Meteor Falls/route 115: After all that teleport back to Mauville. You can heal up at the old ladys house in route 113? -To get back to Petalburg, go to slateport and take the old mans boat to dewford city. From Dewford, take the old mans boat back to Petalburg City. -Beat the Petalburg Gym then teleport back to Mauville. -Speak with Wattson, do the new Mauville stuff. Teleport back out to Mauville and GG, we are off to get fly in fortree city. -Walk to Fortree. Tall GRASS. -In fortree, use the PC. Get the scope and teleport back. Beat the Gym. You can now fly.

Well I believe with an optimal sweeper (AKA 1HKO all pokes 90% + of the time), and better knowledge of the route the run can be faster. I'm hoping to shave off 2-3 hours. Payout wise, that would make it comparable to Kanto. My Kanto runs yielded about 70-88k/hour. There is money to be had in Hoenn boys and girls. The is also the the added bonus of shards (which nets approx 200k). Not sure how easy/time consuming they are to sell though. Might see if there are some parts that would be worth skipping. The payouts until gym 4ish are kinda low. Might be better to skip through all that to get straight to the money. Just pick up the key items/really valuable items. The money you get selling garbage to pokemart (IE max revives and potions, etc.) yields approx 100k. Need to define an optimal route that maximizes reward/time.

God damn, Hoenn is long. So many battles its unbelievable. I did another test run. This time around I used the starter pokemon Torchic. The beginning was kinda slow, alot of the foes required at least two hits to kill. Things picked up once he evolved into blaziken. The run took 9.68 hours and I earned 567K pure cash (including sold items to pokemart). Which gives 53.7k per hour. This is about on par with paydaying. However, you don't get tms, everstones, pp ups and shards while paydaying. hehe. Anyways, I still have work to do to learn the run and make it more efficient. But it seems like 7-8 hours might be a good run for Hoenn. 6 hours would be ideal, but that seems damn hard to do. Kanto takes less than 5 hours. Here is some info about the run. Hoenn test run # 2 - BLAZIKEN Sweeper: Torchic Start lvl: 5 Level at end: 68 Rash (+10% sp. Atk, -10% sp. def) Ability: Blaze IVs : decent atk and spa. , No EV training Moves: Cost ($) Ember > Flamethrower (tm35): 14000 peck > Strength > Sky Uppercut: 0 Double kick: 0 Bulk up (lvl. 31) 0 Utility Pokes: E4 Sweeper: Lvl 100 Starmie (Surf, psychic, Thunderbolt and Icebeam) HM Slave 1: Dragonite (Strength, Waterfall, Surf, Fly) HM Slave 2: Paras (Flash, Cut, Dig, Rock Smash) Teleport Slave: Abra (Teleport) Time: (hours) (mins) Preparation (transfering things, repels): 5 gym 1 (roxanne): 0h 31mins gym2 (Brawly): 0h 12mins gym 3 (Wattson): 1h 16mins gym 4 (Flanary): 1h 10mins gym 5 (Norman): 0h 20mins gym 6 (Winona): 0h 54mins gym 7 (Tate and Liza): 1h 56mins gym 8 (Juan): 1h 15mins E4 0h 43 COLLECTING SHIT: 1h 4mins End (Transfering spoils back to main): 15mins Total time: 9,68 hours Profit ($) Full run - From Trainer Battles: 462992 Trainer Battles + Selling all items (Run TOTAL): 573987 Repels Used QTY Cost ($) Repels: 25 10000 Super Repels: 40 30000 Total: 40000 Net Profit: 573987 Repels cost: 40000 Sweeper cost: 14000 Profit: 519987 Profit / hour: 53699 Profit / hour assuming 6 hour run: 86664,5 Comments about the run. -Start: Used Torchic with lucky Egg. -Beat most of the trainers along the way to rustboro -Gym 1 (ROXANNE): You don't have to wear that dress toonight. Beat all the trainers to reach lvl 16. Evolved to get double kick. Beat Roxanne easily after that. -Gym2 (Brawly) : Skipped all the trainers. Combusken was lvl 19. Beat the Gym leader. Had 1 hp left lol. Seems like double kick deals more damage than peck. -Rival Battle (Route 110): Went well. Was level 24. Used one X-attack then 2HKO marshtomp and lombre. -Gym 3 (Wattson): Died a bunch of times. First try was level 27. died. Then I went to level a bit fighting trainers on routes 117 and 111. Beat Wattson at level 34 with ember. Decided to buy Flamethrower TM at the game corner afterwards. Should have done it before to beat the gym. Completely forgot flamethrower would become redundant with blaze kick learnt at lvl 36. Meh watever. -Switched out lucky egg for amulet coin when I reached lvl 36 (blaziken evolution). Was on route 112. Total cash ~27k. So I lost 13.5k for not using amulet coin from the start. -Went to fallarbor town. Make sure the last pokecenter you use is in Mauville, we'll be returning here. -After Meteor Falls/route 115, used teleport to go back to Mauville. -Mt. Chimney: Maxie went well. Put abra in front to let him eat intimidate to the face. Switched in blaziken. Was lvl 40. OHKO everything. -Gym 4 (Flanary): OHKO all the trainers. lvl. 40. Against Leader. Used Bulk up once and OHKO everything except torkoal. -Teleported back to Mauville after beating lavridge gym. Lol no wish I could have done that, but I was too scared before the gym battle so I used PC in lavaridge. I walked back to Mauville. -Went back through Vendenturf and route 117, rustoboro..etc. Should have gone back to slateport and taken the ferry to dewford and then gone to petalburg. Not sure which one is faster yet. -Gym 5 (Norman): OHKO all the trainers. Beat Norman with double kick. OHKOed all pokes except slaking. Slaking took two hits. -Route 119 : went well -Rival (route 119): OHKO all pokes after one Bulk up. -GYM 5 (Winonna): Used 3x bulk up. Was level 49. Then almost 1hko all but alataria. -Route 120 & 121: Went well. -Rival Battle (Lilycove City): lvl 52 blaziken. OHKO all 4 pokes. -Mt. Pyre & route 123: Went well. -Magma Hideout: Went well. -Aqua Hideout: Went well. -GYM 7 Tate & Liz - Beat all the trainers. Level 60 blaziken died. Had to use revive. Psychic hits hard. -Space Center: Went well. -Route 127, 128 & Seafloor cavern: Went well -Route 129, 130, 131: Went well. -Gym 8 (Juan): Beat all the trainers. Was level 64. Used one bulk up and OHKO everything with Sky Uppercut. -Victory Road: Battle against wally went well. Used bulk up once and swept. Then I switched to lvl 100 starmie cuz fuck that, im done. -E4: LVL.66 blaziken OHKOed all of sidneys pokemons. OHKO all of Phoebes pokes will flamethrower. Then just used lvl 100 sweeper. -COLLECTED SHIT. The END.

It would definitely be a cost efficient solution to breed a moveset sweeper. Might get a little boring always playing the same sweeper alt run after alt run though. However you would get quite used to that sweeper and would become even more efficient and find specific tricks for the key battles, reducing failures. Stuff like how to avoid overlevel, use x-special or x-attack on this and that keyfight, use this move, bla bla bla. So that might be the most cost effective way. Another cost effective way is to figure out which pokemon can be used with minimal investment. For example, lvl 16 alakazam can pretty much OHKO eveything and alls he needs is psybeam (free), psychic (free @ lvl 38), shock wave (free since you have a crap ton lying around or calm mind worth about 15k) and shadow ball (17 from game corner). How long would you spend breeding a pokemon? is it worth the 17k - 32k you would spend on alakazam's moveset? Considering you can get around 70k/hour in pure cash doing an altrun (not counting items). But yeah, a pokemon requiring an expensive moveset would definitely be worth breeding. What I find great about alt runs though is that it lets you play an entire new game with any pokemon you choose. I like to pick different pokemon. Spices things up and makes you think through which moves you need for which battles and figure out the run strategy. A lot of fun to be had, you have to adapt as you go! I would recommend to experiment and figure out movesets and run some random pokemon with whatever moveset you think might work for the altrun. Or just go with starmie/alakazam and blast threw the game :P

PRESENTING, Hoenn test run # 1 Sweeper: Mudkip Start lvl: 5 Level at end: 70 Rash (+10% sp. Atk, -10% sp. def) Ability: torrent IVs:19 sp. Atk, 2 speed lol, No EV training Moves: Cost ($) Waterfall: 0 Strength: 0 Rock Slide > Surf (gym 5 Norman): 0 Mud Shot > Earthquake(lvl. 51) 0 Utility Pokes: E4 Sweeper: Lvl 100 Starmie (Surf, psychic, Thunderbolt and Icebeam) HM Slave 1: Dragonite (Strength, Dive, Surf, Fly) HM Slave 2: Paras (Flash, Cut, Dig, Rock Smash) Time: (hours) (mins) Preparation (transfering things, repels): 5mins Part 1 (Gym 1 to 5 Norman): 6h 0 Part 2 (Gym 6 to 8, fortree, winona, Juan): 8h Part 3 (Victory Road, E4): 1h Part 4 (COLLECTING SHIT): 2h End (Transfering spoils back to main): 15mins Total time: 17,33 hours I still haven't figured out what the time splits are gonna be. This is just a baseline. Profit ($) After Part 2 - From Trainer Battles: After Part 2 - Selling most items: After Part 3 - From Trainer Battles: 459818 After Part 3 - Selling all items (Run TOTAL): 566953 Repels Cost Repels Used QTY Cost ($) Repels: 37 14800 Super Repels: 34 25500 Total: 40300 Net Profit: 566953 Repels cost: 40300 Sweeper cost: 0 Profit: 526653 Profit / hour: 30384 Profit / hour assuming 6 hour run: 87775,5 As always, this only assumes cash earned from trainers and from stuff sold directly to pokemart. Sell all those shards, tms, pp ups and you will get a considerable amount. Some notes about this Hoenn run: -Used mudkip with lucky Egg. Switched to amulet coins when trainer payouts started being decent. (was around lvl 20-30 I think). -Granite cave finished: 1h08 mins -From Granite Cave to Mauville City: 43 mins -From Mauville City to Fiery cave: 42 mins I didn't time myself after that, just used the in game time played on trainer card. It took me 17 hours lol. Cleared everything, killed pretty much all the trainers. A lot of that time was spent reading the walkthrough and looking at maps with some AFK. I believe once i have the route memorized, 6 hours total should be doable. For the first five gyms, there is a lot of running around back and forth. There must be a strategic route to follow and use Abra with teleport to save time (possibly Mauville could serve as a base). I'm gonna try to figure it out. Difficulty seems lower too. Most of the time I have 10+ levels on the trainers. Was mostly quite overleveled during the entire game. Alot of walking and surfing. No notable difficulties. Trying to determine what the routes/splits are gonna be. Took alot of time to fight almost all trainers.

Might want to correct this for head LEFT. I've been going through hoenn using this guide and pkmn.net dex maps. This guide is very useful, thanks! I'll post some info about my first run soon.

So ive pretty much finished the alt run calculator for Kanto. The goal is to find which movesets work for an altrun on any pokemon. I've run a few calculations. Here are some results. Ideally, a pokemon would be able to OHKO every single opponent. There is a summary which you see below. I also have a text file that details each fight and how much damage each move deals. So far the best pokemon is Alakazam. He's also got a pretty cheap moveset! Sweeper: alakazam Start Level: 16 End Level: 54 IV set: [15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Starting EV set: [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Final EV set: [38, 59, 62, 47, 17, 85] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Nature Mod: [1, 1] [atk,spa] ********************** Success rate = 92.44% ********************** Number of defeated pokemon: 225 Killed 208 / 225 (92.44%) pokemon in 1 hit. 17 pokemon (7.56%) killed in 2Hits or more Move Performance (1HKO) ------------------------ Psybeam : 165 OHKO's - 73.33% coverage ShockWave : 70 OHKO's - 31.11% coverage Psychic : 188 OHKO's - 83.56% coverage ShadowBall : 126 OHKO's - 56.00% coverage Move Coverage --------------- Psybeam : 0 times best move and OHKO - 0.00% coverage ShockWave : 2 times best move and OHKO - 0.89% coverage Psychic : 186 times best move and OHKO - 82.67% coverage ShadowBall : 20 times best move and OHKO - 8.89% coverage Tough battles -------------- [Trainer, Pokemon, level, Best Move, Min. Damage Percent] --------------------------------------------------------- ['Misty', 'starmie', 21, 'ShadowBall', 66.12903225806451] ['Engineer Baily', 'magnemite', 21, 'Psychic', 91.66666666666666] ['LT. Surge', 'raichu', 24, 'Psychic', 87.14285714285714] ['Boss Giovanni 1', 'kangaskhan', 29, 'Psychic', 67.5925925925926] ['Snorlax', 'snorlax', 30, 'Psychic', 48.96551724137931] ['Juggler Kayden', 'hypno', 38, 'ShadowBall', 54.83870967741935] ['Koga', 'muk', 39, 'Psychic', 95.77464788732394] ['burglar simon', 'ninetales', 38, 'Psychic', 60.86956521739131] ['Scientist Braydon', 'magnemite', 33, 'Psychic', 94.20289855072464] ['Scientist Braydon', 'magneton', 33, 'Psychic', 63.95348837209303] ['Burglar Quinn', 'ninetales', 36, 'Psychic', 73.39449541284404] ['Burglar Ramon', 'ponyta', 41, 'Psychic', 94.23076923076923] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'rapidash', 42, 'Psychic', 72.26890756302521] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'arcanine', 47, 'Psychic', 50.0] ['Rival Fight 6', 'pidgeot', 37, 'Psychic', 93.27731092436974] ['Boss Giovanni 2', 'kangaskhan', 35, 'Psychic', 85.27131782945736] ['Gym Leader Sabrina', 'alakazam', 43, 'ShadowBall', 94.69026548672566] Sweeper: starmie Start Level: 20 End Level: 50 Moveset [Psychic, IceBeam, Surf, Thunderbolt] IV set: [15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Starting EV set: [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Final EV set: [38, 59, 58, 46, 17, 84] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Nature Mod: [1, 1] [atk,spa] ********************** Success rate = 86.30% ********************** Number of defeated pokemon: 219 Killed 189 / 219 (86.30%) pokemon in 1 hit. 30 pokemon (13.70%) killed in 2Hits or more Move Performance (1HKO) ------------------------ Psychic : 155 OHKO's - 70.78% coverage IceBeam : 113 OHKO's - 51.60% coverage Surf : 142 OHKO's - 64.84% coverage Thunderbolt : 75 OHKO's - 34.25% coverage Move Coverage --------------- Psychic : 113 times best move and OHKO - 51.60% coverage IceBeam : 11 times best move and OHKO - 5.02% coverage Surf : 52 times best move and OHKO - 23.74% coverage Thunderbolt : 13 times best move and OHKO - 5.94% coverage Tough battles -------------- [Trainer, Pokemon, level, Best Move, Min. Damage Percent] --------------------------------------------------------- ['Misty', 'starmie', 21, 'Thunderbolt', 59.67741935483871] ['Team Rocket Grunt', 'drowzee', 17, 'Surf', 86.53846153846155] ['LT. Surge', 'raichu', 24, 'Psychic', 58.57142857142858] ['Boss Giovanni 1', 'kangaskhan', 29, 'Psychic', 45.370370370370374] ['Team Rocket Grunt 2', 'drowzee', 26, 'Surf', 82.66666666666667] ['Snorlax', 'snorlax', 30, 'Psychic', 33.10344827586207] ['Biker Billy', 'muk', 33, 'Psychic', 81.14754098360656] ['Juggler Kayden', 'hypno', 38, 'Surf', 31.451612903225808] ['Juggler Kirk', 'drowzee', 31, 'Surf', 65.51724137931035] ['Juggler Kirk', 'kadabra', 31, 'Surf', 90.66666666666666] ['Juggler Kirk', 'drowzee', 31, 'Surf', 66.66666666666666] ['Juggler Kirk', 'drowzee', 31, 'Surf', 66.66666666666666] ['Koga', 'muk', 39, 'Psychic', 63.38028169014085] ['Koga', 'weezing', 43, 'Psychic', 89.34426229508196] ['burglar simon', 'ninetales', 38, 'Surf', 84.34782608695653] ['Scientist Braydon', 'magneton', 33, 'Surf', 82.55813953488372] ['Burglar Quinn', 'ninetales', 36, 'Surf', 97.24770642201835] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'rapidash', 42, 'Surf', 95.7983193277311] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'arcanine', 47, 'Surf', 66.02564102564102] ['Rival Fight 6', 'pidgeot', 37, 'IceBeam', 81.5126050420168] ['Rival Fight 6', 'venusaur', 40, 'Psychic', 82.53968253968253] ['Rival Fight 6', 'alakazam', 35, 'Surf', 70.2127659574468] ['Team Rocket Grunt', 'drowzee', 32, 'Surf', 80.0] ['Boss Giovanni 2', 'nidoqueen', 41, 'Psychic', 88.32116788321169] ['Boss Giovanni 2', 'kangaskhan', 35, 'Psychic', 56.58914728682171] ['Gym Leader Sabrina', 'kadabra', 38, 'Surf', 86.66666666666667] ['Gym Leader Sabrina', 'mrmime', 37, 'Surf', 59.09090909090909] ['Gym Leader Sabrina', 'alakazam', 43, 'Surf', 53.09734513274337] ['Giovanni', 'nidoqueen', 44, 'Psychic', 86.98630136986301] ['Giovanni', 'nidoking', 45, 'Psychic', 97.16312056737588] Sweeper: haunter Start Level: 12 End Level: 54 Moveset [ShadowBall, Psychic, GigaDrain, Thunderbolt] IV set: [15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Starting EV set: [0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Final EV set: [38, 59, 62, 47, 17, 85] #hp,atk,DEF,spa,spd,spe Nature Mod: [1, 1] [atk,spa] ********************** Success rate = 87.11% ********************** Number of defeated pokemon: 225 Killed 196 / 225 (87.11%) pokemon in 1 hit. 29 pokemon (12.89%) killed in 2Hits or more Move Performance (1HKO) ------------------------ ShadowBall : 154 OHKO's - 68.44% coverage Psychic : 141 OHKO's - 62.67% coverage GigaDrain : 60 OHKO's - 26.67% coverage Thunderbolt : 92 OHKO's - 40.89% coverage Move Coverage --------------- ShadowBall : 55 times best move and OHKO - 24.44% coverage Psychic : 88 times best move and OHKO - 39.11% coverage GigaDrain : 36 times best move and OHKO - 16.00% coverage Thunderbolt : 17 times best move and OHKO - 7.56% coverage Tough battles -------------- [Trainer, Pokemon, level, Best Move, Min. Damage Percent] --------------------------------------------------------- ['Misty', 'starmie', 21, 'ShadowBall', 75.80645161290323] ['Camper Jeff', 'raticate', 16, 'Psychic', 93.75] ['Engineer Baily', 'magnemite', 21, 'ShadowBall', 66.66666666666666] ['LT. Surge', 'raichu', 24, 'ShadowBall', 67.14285714285714] ['Boss Giovanni 1', 'kangaskhan', 29, 'Psychic', 39.81481481481482] ['Gym Leader Erika', 'vileplume', 29, 'Psychic', 90.10989010989012] ['Snorlax', 'snorlax', 30, 'Psychic', 28.27586206896552] ['Biker Billy', 'muk', 33, 'Psychic', 69.67213114754098] ['Juggler Kayden', 'hypno', 38, 'ShadowBall', 72.58064516129032] ['Koga', 'muk', 39, 'Psychic', 53.52112676056338] ['Koga', 'weezing', 43, 'Psychic', 75.40983606557377] ['burglar simon', 'ninetales', 38, 'ShadowBall', 46.95652173913044] ['Burglar Arnie', 'charmeleon', 34, 'ShadowBall', 93.54838709677419] ['Scientist Braydon', 'magnemite', 33, 'ShadowBall', 72.46376811594203] ['Scientist Braydon', 'magneton', 33, 'ShadowBall', 48.837209302325576] ['Burglar Lewis', 'ponyta', 34, 'ShadowBall', 98.86363636363636] ['Burglar Quinn', 'ninetales', 36, 'ShadowBall', 56.88073394495413] ['Burglar Ramon', 'ponyta', 41, 'ShadowBall', 73.07692307692307] ['Burglar Dusty', 'vulpix', 37, 'ShadowBall', 97.67441860465115] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'growlithe', 42, 'ShadowBall', 81.08108108108108] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'ponyta', 40, 'ShadowBall', 76.47058823529412] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'rapidash', 42, 'ShadowBall', 53.78151260504202] ['Gym Leader Blaine', 'arcanine', 47, 'ShadowBall', 37.17948717948718] ['Rival Fight 6', 'venusaur', 40, 'Psychic', 72.22222222222221] ['Boss Giovanni 2', 'nidoqueen', 41, 'Psychic', 76.64233576642336] ['Boss Giovanni 2', 'kangaskhan', 35, 'Psychic', 49.6124031007752] ['Cooltrainer Warrant', 'nidoqueen', 39, 'Psychic', 90.83969465648855] ['Giovanni', 'nidoqueen', 44, 'Psychic', 76.02739726027397] ['Giovanni', 'nidoking', 45, 'Psychic', 84.39716312056737] If you have any suggestions on a sweeper, just suggest it here with it's moveset and i'll run the calcs. Sorry for long post. Lots of data.

I've been working on a python program that simulates an alt run. The concept is to take a given pokemon, with average IVs, no EVs and neutral (i.e. crap nature) and run the calcs for each NPC battle till the run is finished. The program would output which move would OHKO the opponents pokemon. This could help determine the most optimal movesets for different pokemon. Worst conditions are assumed damage wise, so in reality results could be much better. Here is an idea of what the output could look like. *********************************************************************** Pallet Town *********************************************************************** Rival, reward: 80 --------------- Level 5 bulbasaur (21 hp) Psybeam 112 damage - 533.33% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 17 damage - 80.95% : 2HKO effectiveness: 0.5 Psychic 153 damage - 728.57% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 45 damage - 214.29% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 78 exp alakazam has 2613 total exp, level 16 *********************************************************************** Viridian Forest *********************************************************************** Bug Catcher Sammy, reward: 108 --------------- Level 9 weedle (28 hp) Psybeam 131 damage - 467.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 40 damage - 142.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 180 damage - 642.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 53 damage - 189.29% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 115 exp alakazam has 2728 total exp, level 16 *********************************************************************** GYM 1: Pewter Gym *********************************************************************** Camper Liam, reward: 220 --------------- Level 10 geodude (31 hp) Psybeam 52 damage - 167.74% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 1 damage - 3.23% : 31HKO effectiveness: 0 Psychic 71 damage - 229.03% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 42 damage - 135.48% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 211 exp alakazam has 2939 total exp, level 16 Level 11 sandshrew (35 hp) Psybeam 48 damage - 137.14% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 1 damage - 2.86% : 35HKO effectiveness: 0 Psychic 66 damage - 188.57% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 39 damage - 111.43% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 252 exp alakazam has 3191 total exp, level 17 Gym leader Brock, reward: 1400 --------------- Level 12 geodude (35 hp) Psybeam 48 damage - 137.14% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 1 damage - 2.86% : 35HKO effectiveness: 0 Psychic 66 damage - 188.57% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 39 damage - 111.43% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 254 exp alakazam has 3445 total exp, level 17 Level 14 onix (38 hp) Psybeam 35 damage - 92.11% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 1 damage - 2.63% : 38HKO effectiveness: 0 Psychic 48 damage - 126.32% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 28 damage - 73.68% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 372 exp alakazam has 3817 total exp, level 18 ********************************************************** Route 3 ********************************************************** Bug Catcher Colton, reward: 120 --------------- Level 10 caterpie (32 hp) Psybeam 60 damage - 187.50% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 37 damage - 115.62% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 82 damage - 256.25% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 49 damage - 153.12% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 130 exp alakazam has 3947 total exp, level 18 Level 10 weedle (31 hp) Psybeam 121 damage - 390.32% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 37 damage - 119.35% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 165 damage - 532.26% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 49 damage - 158.06% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 128 exp alakazam has 4075 total exp, level 18 Level 10 caterpie (32 hp) Psybeam 60 damage - 187.50% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 37 damage - 115.62% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 82 damage - 256.25% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 49 damage - 153.12% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 130 exp alakazam has 4205 total exp, level 18 Bug Catcher Greg, reward: 108 --------------- Level 9 weedle (28 hp) Psybeam 131 damage - 467.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 40 damage - 142.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 180 damage - 642.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 53 damage - 189.29% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 115 exp alakazam has 4320 total exp, level 18 Level 9 kakuna (28 hp) Psybeam 131 damage - 467.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 40 damage - 142.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 180 damage - 642.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 53 damage - 189.29% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 157 exp alakazam has 4477 total exp, level 18 Level 9 caterpie (29 hp) Psybeam 65 damage - 224.14% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 40 damage - 137.93% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 90 damage - 310.34% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 53 damage - 182.76% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 117 exp alakazam has 4594 total exp, level 19 Level 9 metapod (29 hp) Psybeam 65 damage - 224.14% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 40 damage - 137.93% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 90 damage - 310.34% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 53 damage - 182.76% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 159 exp alakazam has 4753 total exp, level 19 Bug Catcher James, reward: 132 --------------- Level 11 caterpie (34 hp) Psybeam 60 damage - 176.47% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 37 damage - 108.82% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 82 damage - 241.18% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 49 damage - 144.12% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 143 exp alakazam has 4896 total exp, level 19 Level 11 metapod (34 hp) Psybeam 60 damage - 176.47% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 37 damage - 108.82% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 82 damage - 241.18% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 49 damage - 144.12% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 195 exp alakazam has 5091 total exp, level 19 ********************************************************** Mount Moon ********************************************************** Rocket Grunt 1, reward: 352 --------------- Level 13 rattata (34 hp) Psybeam 41 damage - 120.59% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 25 damage - 73.53% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 56 damage - 164.71% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 1 damage - 2.94% : 34HKO effectiveness: 0 alakazam got 182 exp alakazam has 5273 total exp, level 19 Level 11 ekans (32 hp) Psybeam 74 damage - 231.25% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 23 damage - 71.88% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 101 damage - 315.62% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 30 damage - 93.75% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 168 exp alakazam has 5441 total exp, level 19 Rocket Grunt 2, reward: 416 --------------- Level 13 rattata (34 hp) Psybeam 41 damage - 120.59% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 25 damage - 73.53% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 56 damage - 164.71% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 1 damage - 2.94% : 34HKO effectiveness: 0 alakazam got 182 exp alakazam has 5623 total exp, level 20 Level 12 zubat (35 hp) Psybeam 82 damage - 234.29% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 51 damage - 145.71% : 1HKO effectiveness: 2 Psychic 112 damage - 320.00% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 33 damage - 94.29% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 159 exp alakazam has 5782 total exp, level 20 Super Nerd Miguel, reward: 288 --------------- Level 12 grimer (44 hp) Psybeam 74 damage - 168.18% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 23 damage - 52.27% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 101 damage - 229.55% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 30 damage - 68.18% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 266 exp alakazam has 6048 total exp, level 20 Level 12 voltorb (35 hp) Psybeam 35 damage - 100.00% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 11 damage - 31.43% : 4HKO effectiveness: 0.5 Psychic 48 damage - 137.14% : 1HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 28 damage - 80.00% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 304 exp alakazam has 6352 total exp, level 20 Level 12 koffing (35 hp) Psybeam 78 damage - 222.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShockWave 24 damage - 68.57% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 Psychic 106 damage - 302.86% : 1HKO effectiveness: 3.0 ShadowBall 31 damage - 88.57% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 337 exp alakazam has 6689 total exp, level 21 ********************************************************** Gym 2 : Cerulean Gym ********************************************************** Misty, reward: 2100 --------------- Level 18 staryu (44 hp) Psybeam 25 damage - 56.82% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShockWave 31 damage - 70.45% : 2HKO effectiveness: 2 Psychic 34 damage - 77.27% : 2HKO effectiveness: 1.5 ShadowBall 20 damage - 45.45% : 3HKO effectiveness: 1 alakazam got 470 exp alakazam has 7159 total exp, level 21 Level 21 starmie (62 hp) Psybeam 8 damage - 12.90% : 8HKO effectiveness: 0.75 ShockWave 21 damage - 33.87% : 3HKO effectiveness: 2 Psychic 11 damage - 17.74% : 6HKO effectiveness: 0.75 ShadowBall 27 damage - 43.55% : 3HKO effectiveness: 2 alakazam got 1071 exp alakazam has 8230 total exp, level 22

Use dropbox mate. Also I've found that using the maps from http://pkmn.net/?action=dex&page=games&id=13 to be invaluable. Ive saved all the maps from this site and i'm now working on getting them in the proper order for an alt run. Looking forward to an update if ever your shit doesnt get deleted.

Kanto Run # 7 - Alakazam Sweeper: Alakazam Start lvl: 16 Level after Giovanni Gym: 57 Timid (+10% Speed, -10% Attack) Ability: Synchronize Pretty decent EVs, 19 sp. Atk, 27 speed, No EV training Moves: Cost ($) Confusion (lvl. 16) > Psychic (Lvl. 38): 0 Calm mind: 15000 Shock Wave (TM34 Surge gym reward): 0 Psybeam (lvl. 21): 0 Utility Pokes: E4 Sweeper: Lvl 100 Starmie (Surf, psychic, Thunderbolt and Icebeam) HM Slave 1: Dragonite (Strength, Waterfall, Surf, Fly) HM Slave 2: Paras (Flash, Cut, Dig, Rock Smash) Time: (hours) (mins) Preparation (transfering Pokes, repels): 12 Part 1 (Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika): 1h 18 Part 2 (Koga, Blaine, Sabrina, Giovanni, E4): 1h 27 Part 2.5 routes 10 to 15, power plant, selling stuff: 20 Part 3 (Sevii Islands): 1h 5 End (Transfering spoils back to main): 7 Total time: 4,48 hours Profit ($) After Part 2.5 - From Trainer Battles: 165692 After Part 2.5 - Selling most items: 286992 After Part 3 - From Trainer Battles: 408984 After Part 3 - Selling all items (Run TOTAL): 439144 Repels Used QTY Cost ($) Repels: 19 7600 Super Repels: 24 18000 Total: 25600 Net Profit: 439144 Repels cost: 25600 Sweeper cost: 15000 Profit: 398544 Profit / hour: 88895 Part 1 : -Gym 1 Brock: Took squirtle and gave him a lucky egg (Optional). Beat brock -Route 3 & Mt. Moon: Took lvl. 16 alakazam. Went well - Gym 2 Misty: Lvl. 20 Alakazam 2 HKOes starmie with shockwave. Learned psybeam at at lvl. 21 which replaced confusion -Gary Fight #2: Went well. Didn't OHKO pidgeotto and abra lol. -Route 24: No problem -Gary Fight #3: No problem. OHKO all but Alakazam. -Gym #3 LT. Surge: Trainers were Ok. Was lvl 29. OHKO voltorb and pika. 2HKO Raichu. -Rock Tunnel: Went well -Celadon game corner : Went well. Was lvl 36 on Giovanni . Used one Calm mind then swept with Psybeam. -Gym 4 Erika: Went well. Was level 38. Swept everything with Psychic. Part 2: -Gayry Fight #4: No problem. -Pokemon Tower: No problem. -Gym 5 Koga: Had to heal after trainer battles . Was lvl 42. I died against the trainer with Hypno lol. Had to heal. Most pokes in here take 2 hits to kill. Koga went well. Used one Calm mind and swept. -Pokemon Mansion: Everything went fine. -Gym 6 Blaine: Went well. Beat all the burglars. Was Lvl. 47. Used one Calm Mind and Swept Blaine with psychic -Gary Fight #5 (Silph Co): Went well -Giovanni 2: Went well. -Gym 7 Erika: Lvl. 51. Used 3x Calm Mind. Two might have been enough. Got confused which spiced things up. Had to use a super potion to heal a little. Once calm mind was set up, OHKO all 4 pokes. -Gym 8 Giovanni: Lvl. 53. Used one Calm Mind and swept. -Gary Fight #5: One Calm mind and swept tha floor. -Victory Road and E4: Just used lvl.100 sweeper. Part 3: - I just took my E4 starmie sweeper to clear the Sevii Islands. End note: Alakazam was great. Nice and fast. It's moveset is virtually free since you probably have an excess of Calm Minds (worth about 15k) and shock waves (worth not much). I found it is possible to just learn psychic naturally at lvl.38. Not even sure that calm mind is necessary. Shadow ball is possibly a better move for more coverage (It will cost more though). Can probably just get away with using Sp. atk up during a few key fights or rare candying at a strategic moment (Ex. Before Koga's gym). Definetly would use Alakazam again.

Funny you mention Alakazam. Just did a run with him :P. Will post the info. So far it's been my fastest run. The guy is a beast! Take an Abra, lvl. to 16 kadabra then trade to alt for OP Alakazam. The run I did with Alakazam took me 4.5 hours.

Kanto Run #6 - Lantern Part 1 : -Gym 1 Brock: Beat brock Bulbasaur. Needs to be at least lvl.9 to have vinewhip. I died on first trainer at lvl 8, could't kill him. -Route 3 & Mt. Moon: Went bad with bulbasaur. Had to use 3-4 moves to kill most pokemon. Died on the team rocket guy. Generally slow and ineffecient to start with bulbasaur, even with lucky egg. - Gym 2 Misty: Beat Misty with lvl. 17 ivysaur. Went surprisingly well. -Gary Fight #2: Switched to Chinchou. OHKOed all 4 pokes.No problem -Route 24: No problem -Gary Fight #3: No problem. -Gym #3 LT. Surge: Trainers were Ok. I let chinchou learn signal beam and evolve to lvl.28 agaisnt the trainers. Then I fought Lt. Surge. Took two surfs on electrode and raichu and one on pikachu. -Rock Tunnel: Went well -Celadon game corner : Went well. Was lvl 35 on Giovanni . -Gym 4 Erika: Went well. Was level 36. Swept everything with icebeam. Took two hits to kill vilplume. Part 2: -Gayry Fight #4: No problem. -Pokemon Tower: No problem. -Gym 5 Koga: Had to heal after trainer battles . Was lvl 42. I died against the third trainer. Had to heal. Most pokes in here take 2-3 hits to kill. Had to use a revive on Lanturn on Koga. Muk killed him. -Pokemon Mansion: Everything went fine. -Gym 6 Blaine: Beat all the burglars. Was Lvl. 46. Wasn't full hp agaisnt blaine. Had to heal using one hyper potion during fight. Fight was ok aside from that. -Gary Fight #5 (Silph Co): Had to heal after fight. 26 hp left. -Giovanni 2: Went well. -Gym 7 Erika: Lvl. 48 Lanturn could'nt OHKO anything and died pretty fast. My HM slave finished the fight, which is a shame. I'm starting to think I should have rare candied at Koga to make things go smoother. -Gym 8 Giovanni: Lvl. 49 Lanturn killed the trainers but didn't OHKO everything. Died on Giovanni. Decided to rare candy to lvl. 60. Lvl. 60 Lanturn OHKOed everything. -Gary Fight #5: Swept with Lanturn No Problem. -Victory Road and E4: Just used lvl.100 sweeper. Part 3: - I just took my E4 starmie sweeper to clear the Sevii Islands. End note: Laturn shows good potential. Part 1 went quite well. Part 2 was a bit shaky. I think I should have used rare candies at Kogas gym. Aside from that Signal beam was pretty underused (only used it agaisnt psychic types, so Koga and Erika). I would use Lanturn again. STAB for lightning and water is pretty nice. Only downside is its low 76 SP.ATK. Kanto Run # 6 Sweeper: Lanturn Start lvl: 20 Level after Giovanni Gym: 61 Bold (+10% def, - 10% atk) lol Ability: Illuminate Pretty shit EVs, 9 sp. Atk, 5 speed, No EV training Moves: Cost ($) Thunderbolt (Celadon game corner: 14000 Surf: 0 Confuse Ray > Signal beam (lvl.29) 0 Ice Beam(Celadon game corner: 14000 Utility Pokes: E4 Sweeper: Lvl 100 Starmie (Surf, psychic, Thunderbolt and Icebeam) HM Slave 1: Dragonite (Strength, Waterfall, Surf, Fly) HM Slave 2: Paras (Flash, Cut, Dig, Rock Smash) Time: (hours) (mins) Preparation (transfering Pokes, repels): 15 Part 1 (Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika): 1h 41 Part 2 (Koga, Blaine, Sabrina, Giovanni, E4): 1h 38 Part 2.5 routes 10 to 15, power plant, selling stuff: 22 Part 3 (Sevii Islands): 1h 4 End (Transfering spoils back to main): 7 Total time: 5,12 hours Profit ($) After Part 2.5 - From Trainer Battles: 168286 After Part 2.5 - Selling most items: 285086 After Part 3 - From Trainer Battles: 405206 After Part 3 - Selling all items (Run TOTAL): 434066 Repels Used QTY Cost ($) Repels: 23 9200 Super Repels: 25 18750 Total: 27950 Net Profit: 434066 Repels cost: 27950 Sweeper cost: 28000 Profit: 406116 Profit / hour: 79371

Great start! Do you have any number's on cash $$$ earned and the time a complete run would take?

Such a tease! Can you post what you have already, doesn't matter if stuff is missing. It's good to have an idea of what Hoenn has in store for us. THanks!

Kanto Run # 5 - RATICATE Pokemon Info Sweeper: Raticate Start lvl: 20 Level after Giovanni Gym: 61 Hardy (No stat change) Ability: Guts Pretty nice EVs, 26 Atk, 28 speed, No EV training Moves: Cost ($) Strength: 0 Bite > Crunch (lvl.24): 0 Quick Attack > Double Edge (lvl.39) 0 Swords Dance (Big mushroom Island 2): 8000 Utility Pokes: E4 Sweeper: Lvl 100 Starmie (Surf, psychic, Thunderbolt and Icebeam) HM Slave 1: Dragonite (Strength, Waterfall, Surf, Fly) HM Slave 2: Paras (Flash, Cut, Dig, Rock Smash) Time: (hours) (mins) Preparation (transfering Pokes, repels): 15mins Part 1 (Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika): 2h 6 Part 2 (Koga, Blaine, Sabrina, Giovanni, E4): 1h 48 Part 2.5 routes 10 to 15, power plant, selling stuff: 23mins Part 3 (Sevii Islands): 1h 9 End (Transfering spoils back to main): 5mins Total time: 5,77 hours Profit ($) After Part 2.5 - From Trainer Battles: 168878 After Part 2.5 - Selling most items: 286238 After Part 3 - From Trainer Battles: 415448 After Part 3 - Selling all items (Run TOTAL): 436558 Repels Used QTY Cost ($) Repels: 19 7600 Super Repels: 24 18000 Total: 25600 Net Profit: 436558 Repels cost: 25600 Sweeper cost: 8000 Profit: 410958 Profit / hour: 71264 Part 1 (2h06 mins): -Gym 1 Brock: Beat brock with squirtle -Went through Mount Moon with squirtle. - Gym 2 Misty: Beat Misty with lvl. 16 wartorle and lvl 20 raticate. -Gary Fight #2: No problem -Route 24: Nidorans poison point is annoying. Used squirtle for a few battles to avoid overleveling raticate -Gary Fight #3: No problem. Used one swords dance and swept. -Gym #3: Trainers were Ok. Was lvl. 28 agaisnt Lt. Surge. Was full HP and paralyzed at start. Used Swords dance and swept. Got lucky no paralysis triggered -Rock Tunnel: Was quite bad. Had to swords dance to kill the geodudes and onyxes, taking time and losing life. Raticate died on the last trainer. Had to use revive. Im thinking Ice beam might have been a good idea instead of quick attack. -Celadon game corner : Went well. Was lvl 35 on Giovanni only used one SD. Should have used two as since I could'nt OHKO anything. Had to heal before fight. -Gayry Fight #4: No problem. Used one SD and swept. -Pokemon Tower was fine -Gym 4 Erika: Used one SD and swept with strength. Part 2 (1h48): -Gym 5 Koga: Had to heal after trainer battles . Was lvl 43. Used 2 SD and swept Koga with strength. -Pokemon Mansion. Everything went fine. -Gym 6 Blaine: Beat all the burglars. Was Lvl. 47. Wasn't able to beat blaine. Decided to skip and go to saffron to beat Silph co and Sabrina. -Gary Fight #5 (Silph Co): Raticate died on the last pokemon. Should have used two SD but only used one. -Giovanni 2: Went well. Used two SD and got poisoned. OHKOed everything. -Gym 7 Erika: OHKOed everything. Went well. -Gym 8 Giovanni: Lvl. 51 Raticate died on first trainer. Can't handle his machokes. Also died on first try against gym leader. After several attempts, I cheated and rare candied my rat to lvl. 60. This allowed me to survive long enough to get two SD in and sweep. Rhyhorn lvl. 50 still needed two hits to kill. -Gary Fight #5: used 3 SD and swept. Part 3 (1h09): - I just took my E4 starmie sweeper to clear the Sevii Islands. End note: I would't use Raticate again. He was slow, requiring swords dance and healing pretty often. He was also vulnerable to intimidate and status effects from pokemons abilities (poison point, static). Some gyms and roads he did a good job at, others not so well. I would maybe add in icebeam to his moveset instead of quick attack/Double edge. Could work?

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The time difference is most likely me just getting to know the run better. I'm also refining my routes and adapting as I go along. Might also be due to having less "It's super effective". Each second adds up. Glad you guys like this. Up next are Raticate and Chinchou/Lanturn.

Just did a run with Marill cuz staryu is too mainstream. Took 4.95 hours and earned 425k in cash. Here are some details about the run. Kanto Run # 4 Part 1 (1h42): -Started with a lvl 15 marill. Beat brock with marill. -Went through Mount Moon. Beat Misty with lvl. 20 Azumarill. Got a crit hit on strength starmie. That helped. -Gary Fight #2: No problem -Gary Fight #3: No problem -Gym #3: Trainers were Ok. Was lvl. 30 agaisnt Lt. Surge. Had 10 hp left when I beat him. Close call. -Going through Rock tunnel was ok. Was able to OHKO everything except slowpokes. -Celadon game corner went well. Giovanni was no problem. -Gayry Fight #3: No problem, but could not OHKO once Gyarados came out with intimidate. -Pokemon Tower was fine -Gym 4: Erika gave us some trouble while Azurill was loafing around. Was level 42. Strength could not OHKO so I died on the first fight. I went to buy some X-Attack and that did the trick. I also learned double edge but that also could not OHKO vileplume. Part 2 (1h26): -Gym 5: Lvl 47 Azumarill. Didn't have enough power to kill Weezing. Failed on my first attempt. Second attempt I used 2 X-attack and that did the trick. Still had half my health after beating Koga. I'm wondering about the moveset, if I should have taught Azurill Rain Dance (lvl 35) or TM08 (Bulk up). Debating what the moveset should be. -Pokemon Mansion. Everything went fine. -Gym 6: Beat all the burglars. Was Lvl. 52. Blaine went well though it wasn't a sweeping victory. Azumarill is slow, but it can tank. -Gary Fight #4 (Silph Co): Azumarill died. Had to use revive. Intimidate sucks. -Giovanni 2: Went well. -Gym 7: OHKOed everything. Went well. -Gym 8: Went well. -Gary Fight #5: Azumarill killed 4/6 pokes the died. Finished with E4 sweeper. Part 3 (1h07): - Azumarill is officially retired. I just took my E4 starmie sweeper to clear the Sevii Islands. End note: Azumarill is probably not the best choice for speed clearing, however it 's moveset is free and it is easy to catch. It got the job done, and it's a nice change of pace from them specials Staryus and gastly. Pokemon info Sweeper: Marill Start lvl: 15 Level after Giovanni Gym: 58 Hardy (No stat change) Ability: Huge Power (necessary) 3 atk (lol) , 29 hp, 29 speed, No EV training Moves: Cost ($) Strength: 0 Surf/Double edge (lvl.42): 0 Waterfall: 0 Bulk up (TM08) or Rain Dance (lvl. 35): 0 Utility Pokes: E4 Sweeper: Lvl 100 Starmie (Surf, psychic, Thunderbolt and Icebeam) HM Slave 1: Dragonite (Strength, Waterfall, Surf, Fly) HM Slave 2: Paras (Flash, Cut, Dig, Rock Smash) Time: (hours) (mins) Preparation (transfering Pokes, repels): 15mins Part 1 (Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika): 1h 42 Part 2 (Koga, Blaine, Sabrina, Giovanni, E4): 1h 26 Part 2.5 routes 10 to 15, power plant, selling stuff: 20mins Part 3 (Sevii Islands): 1h 7 End (Transfering spoils back to main): 7mins Total time: 4,95 hours Profit ($) After Part 2.5 - From Trainer Battles: 161884 After Part 2.5 - Selling most items: 277184 After Part 3 - From Trainer Battles: 398456 After Part 3 - Selling all items (Run TOTAL): 425791 Repels Used QTY Cost ($) Repels: 20 8000 Super Repels: 26 19500 Total: 27500 Net Profit: 425791 Repels cost: 27500 Sweeper cost: 0 Profit: 398291 Profit / hour: 80463

You may throw in any information you like into the OP. i wasnt aware TM psychic was available at mauville game corner. That's good news. Last I checked thunderbolt was 12k (4000 coins)...i might have miscounted though. Just checked, 4000 coins is 14k. my bad To setup the run, I used a second laptop to transfer 50 pokes, amulet coin, hm slaves and e4 sweeper. Took about 15 mins. Took another 15 mins at the end of the run to transfer all the loot. I need to double check max repels, but it seems the most cost efficient was super repels. Also, I like having repels on hand because sometimes you only have a short distance to cross and the super/max repel would be wasted. I've been watching fire red speed run videos and that has been the basis for my runs ( combined with this guide for all those itemzzz). If you wanna see an efficient run, check out werster on YouTube. He tears through elite four in something like 2h5mins using blastoise. He does use all his money to buy potions and x specials. But by transferring an OP custom made sweeper and taking 10 extra seconds to use the pokecenter we can avoid that. Anyways I'm rambling. My plan is to test different pokes/movesets and figure out what works. Staryu is probably the best, but who knows....

So I just did a Kanto run with Gastly/haunter with amulet coin. I took some notes on the time it took and the cash I earned. For those of you who might be interested, here are a few comments on the run. Took 5.07 hours and earned 425k in cash, not counting all the TMs, PP ups, exp share, etc... -To start, I used squirtle with lucky egg up until Mount Moon (not necessary, but made things faster). Then I used lvl 21 gastly and lvl 19 wartortle to beat Misty. -Gastly performed well until after I beat the fourth Gym. Had a bit of trouble beating Kogas gym with Haunter. Blaine was also a near miss, barely made it alive. -I mostly beat only the mandatory trainers. I did take time to beat the burglars in pokemon mansion and blaines gym as well as all of ruin valley and island 7. -Haunter wasn't able to make it through Victory road alone. Had to use my backup lvl. 100 sweeper. Aside from that all the Pre E4 stuff went decent/well. -I beat E4 with lvl 100 starmie. - In Sevii islands, Haunter had some problems with a few of the routes. He died a couple of times. Had to complete with Starmie. -Aside from that Haunter performed admirably. Would have probably been a bit smoother if I had bothered to evolve him. Kanto Run # 3 Sweeper: Gastly Start lvl: 19 Level after Giovanni Gym 57 Hardy (No stat change) 25 sp.Atk, 27 speed, No EV training Moves: Cost ($) Giga drain 20000 Psychic 30000 Thunderbolt (Celadon game corner) 12000 Shadow ball (Learn at lvl 33) Utility Pokes: E4 Sweeper Lvl 100 Starmie (Surf, psychic, Thunderbolt and Icebeam) HM Slave 1: Dragonite (Strength, Waterfall, Surf, Fly) HM Slave 2: Paras (Flash, Cut, Dig, Rock Smash) Time: (hours) (mins) Preparation (transfering Pokes, repels) 10mins Part 1 (Brock, Misty, Lt. Surge, Erika) 1h 26 Part 2 (Koga, Blaine, Sabrina, Giovanni, E4) 1h 57 Part 2.5 routes 10 to 15, power plant 15mins Part 3 (Sevii Islands) 1h 16 Total time: 5,07 hours Profit ($) After Part 2.5 - From Trainer Battles 162464 After Part 2.5 - Selling most items 279002 After Part 3 - From Trainer Battles 398126 After Part 3 - Selling all items (Run TOTAL) 425736 Repels Used QTY Cost ($) Repels (Part 1 and 2) 10 4000 Super Repels (Part 1 and 2) 15 11250 Repels (Part 3) 14 5600 Super Repels (Part 3) 7 5250 Total 26100 Net Profit 425736 Repels cost 26100 Profit 399636 Profit / hour 78876 Net Profit - repels 399636 Sweeper cost 62000 Net Profit - repels - sweeper cost 337636 Profit / hour (with sweeper cost) 66639 Actual profit is probably much higher, but im not gonna factor in the time it can take to sell stuff on tard chat. A few Tms (EQ, sludge bomb, etc.. sell pretty fast and easy). Same goes for PP ups. Easily netting another 400k.

I'm trying to avoid ev training as it is time consuming and the poke will probably reach above lvl. 50 during the run. But i definitely see the benefit of ev training the sweeper. Might set up an EV chain for 5 sweepers and i'll be good for a while. Which OU comps can be made cheaply/easily (movesets)? IV and nature don't matter too much IMO since level difference. Looking forward to the updated guide and the Hoenn Region. Just did a run with Nidoking - Sludge bomb, ice beam, thunderbolt and surf. It was kinda clunky and I died a few times. I didn't find much use to sludge bomb. The staryu run I did before that was much smoother.

hmm, I think i'll give Nidoking a try on my next run. I did a run with a random lvl 20 staryu I caught in Pallet town. I went to the casino and bought thunderbolt and icebeam for 12k ea. I taught it surf and I figured i'd let it level to 42 for it to learn psychic. Everything went nice and smooth until Koga's Gym. At that point staryu just wasnt strong enough so I rare candied to reach lvl 42, learn psychic and evolved with water stone to Starmie. So 24K + about 30 mins to catch a few staryus was my investment to make this run. I believe the key to making alt runs profitable is to get it done as quick as possible. That means any low level sweeper that can OHKO everything and level as you go to avoid loafing around. Staryu works great but I foresee getting bored with always using the same poke. Up next on my list are Nidoran/Nidoking, Natu/Xatu, Gastly. Any suggestions on a poke/moveset that can handle everything up until elite 4?

Any suggestions on a good sweeper to use? Using staryu with psychic, icebeam and thunderbolt will cost a fortune for each alt run? Any ideas which Pokemon that could be caught low level and that would scale well with the run. I've been using dratini but its been really slow and inefficient so far.