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Mold Breaker Excadrill was never Uber worthy, if you meant Sand Rush then it was only because weather was permanent and it could easily pull 1-6 sweeps given the right set up and nothing would outspeed it. He's more likely to be scared by scalds than by hp fires or Focus Blasts. UU Currently has strong enough fighting types to break past it, it's not fat enough to survive stuff like Machamp or Mienshao. Gliscor has 95 attack and 95 speed, it's vulnerable to status, weak to ice which much stronger sweepers like Salamence are weak to, Has literally one set that requires a fairly hard to farm consumable to utilize, cannot use a band or a scarf, is vulnerable to phazing, cannot break past Skarmory, is vulnerable to bulky waters in general and on top of that requires wasting a Sandstorm turn to set up, Gliscor isn't gonna be good in OU.

What does Vaporeon do besides clerical duties? Growth Vaporeon will be bad and any other bulky water type will be able to dish out scalds and absorb them UU will have incredibly strong Fighting Types, P2 won't be that ridiculous. And yes Poison Heal turning him into a godly stallbreaker is what makes him ridiculously strong, keep in mind this meta will have some incredibly strong dragons and ice moves all over the place to deal with them. Donphan was always considered bad in gen5 OU, it clung to the tier the same way Electivire did in gen4. http://www.smogon.com/dex/bw/pokemon/donphan/

I mean if being annoying instead of strong signified making it to OU that'd mean Whimsicott would be OU. That Gliscor was very situational and it can punch a hole or two but it's easily outplayable and you have better options.

>Vaporeon Outclassed as a bulky water by Jellicent and as a cleric by Chansey/Blissey >Toxicroak Swarm mons have yet to be officially confirmed >Porygon 2 Definitely OU worthy but shouldn't hurt too much in UU for now >Porygon-Z Forgot about this one, it's pretty mediocre >Gliscor No Poison Heal, he's mediocre >Weavile/Bisharp Personally I think Weavile has a niche but Mamoswine revenge kills dragons just as easily with a bit more bulk and Bisharp is bad until gen6 overbuffs him >Donphan Mediocre outside of the stuff you mentioned, very easy to spinblock. >Jolteon He's good but with Mamoswine, Dragons and Chan/Blissey he's very limited, not to mention the omnipresent Ferrothorn Ah yes that team that relied a lot on things that aren't in MMO such as Garchomp, Mega Slowbro, ST Gothitelle and 75% paralysis. That Gliscor is "ok" at best but not OU worthy.

I want to merely test if certain stuff can acquire certain moves via breeding and to see if a last few mons should end up in BL or not.

Will be postponed for the Sinnoh release in the far future.

https://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/unobtainable.shtml Add Rotom to this list. Who knows, maybe it'll be a quick fix patch. We'll still have rocks on Ferrothorn, Forretress and Mamoswine if you breed them as egg moves in OU.

It will but in a subsequent patch. Not sure how long until we get that patch but between the time it takes to beat the story, post game and breeding stuff it'll be sooner than you think.

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Need money for Unovamons so. Sketch (heh) for now. I'll fix the outline and color it later. Removed the Sketch for the final entry Name: Beaglangelo Evolves from Smeargle Normal Type Ign: Suigining

soon (tm)

As long as you don't kick out people for using the Pokemon Black rom instead of the Pokemon White rom

If it's possible to have strong visual cues for stuff like Trick Room, Light Screen, Reflect, etc that'd be great.

Hopefully it will be Castelia. It's one of my favorite cities. For some odd reason I've seen a lot of people excited for Magnezone despite his playstyle being nearly identical to the already existing Magneton. Ferrothorn as previously mentioned is also a popular pick. Personally I'm pretty sure people will just breed a bunch of Lucario and use the unbanned ubers on release week. Hopefully people here don't fall for the Ambipom meme. Hopefully Zapdos. Sure There's a few more not in these boxes, hopefully I'll get to finish a third box by the time the update releases.

Yeah I realized he was a terrible check to scout for the Venu's moveset as I clicked the Submit Reply button.

mag? Edit: I'm an idiot, delete this

Considering how offensive the tier is by nature Eviolite is a good thing to have. Only Tangela and Gligar become unkillable with it, however everything else is fine.

I feel like there was a lot of different views when it came to voting the tiers. Personally I voted what I thought "wouldn't tear this tier apart" but something like "I don't want people who play lower tiers to get overwhelmed by this particular mon on release" popped in my head at times (Which would probably explain some of the conservative decisions you mention, but that's just me, I'm one out of 9 people), others seemed to aim for more of a "I predict stuff will look more or less like this in the end" others, I don't know. Hidden abilities won't be out on release as far as I know. They will be released on the upcoming dungeons as addressed by Kyu I think? in a post on some other thread, so overall this entire thing will be worked on the assumption that HAs won't be out, and the changes on mechanics only we currently know. Yes, gems will be implemented. Agreed. I believe it's going to be an amazing anti-meta Pokemon as Mence's one true counter, and a good way to deal with a lot of other popular picks, the only way I can think it'd be UU by usage is if people opt to use their one Eviolite (Until they replay the game on an alt, buy it off someone else, or dunno if it will be purchaseable with BP) on Chansey the majority of the time, however it is a case where I thought "This Pokemon won't tear the tier apart" so I voted for it to be allowed in UU. Like I mentioned earlier a case where I thought "I don't want all the NU players to suddenly be dropped this 160 attack beast without any time to prepare". Some guy may want to try new stuff but has to suddenly deal with one of last gen's hardest hitters. EDIT: LMAO I missed out on most of the post while I made this will edit shortly EDIT EDIT: Nevermind it'd take a decade to respond to all of them. A bunch of them I agree with, others can be summed as "this has no counters in lower tiers", others are you just saying "lmao" cba to go into specifics.

You only get one Rotom from an NPC trade, this is a prize with fixed IVs and neutral nature and it cannot be traded or re-breeded. That means if it gets scouted in a tournament, people know exactly which form and which set you have on it and they can prepare for it. Sure you can go to the place where you change its forms and then re-EV it with berries and vitamins and then finally change its moves between matches but I can predict that not being very cost effective. As for it not appearing in the wild then yeah Satan.

I wish it did something to Chansey

They won't be as strong this time around.

A lot of these don't "need" them as much as they are an alternative. Cloyster doesn't use Overcoat, Miltank can choose between Thick Fat and Sap Sipper, Arcanine would rather use Intimidate, Weavile doesn't really make use of either ability, Ambipom prefers Technician, Poison Heal is still good on Breloom, etc.

Make it so the HA mon's ability takes priority so we don't have to mess with gender inheritance essentially screwing a lot of single gender Pokemon and so we don't have to buy a hold item to keep the ability, essentially adding another layer to the expensive and tedious process of breeding.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7rususpecttest-628197956 looking forward to speed boost sharpedo in mmo