athelstan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 In the little cup-tier competitions, almost everyone has a gastly. The moment i use a normal pokemon, most people switch in gastly and use sludge bomb, what is the best pokemon to switch in then? First i was thinking about a pokemon with 'pursuit', but i could also go for a steel pokemon (aron,magnemite), or an other pokemon with 0.5 or 0.25 resistance against poison. What pokemon would you choose and why? Suneet and gbwead 2 Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 taillow, outspeeds gastly and can pursuit trap it. porygon calm works too Link to comment
athelstan Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Porygon is what i have now but it doesn't survive 2 sludgebombs (it would if i give leftovers) And taillow sounds good, if he survives one sludgebomb but i doubt he would Link to comment
xStarr Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, athelstan said: Porygon is what i have now but it doesn't survive 2 sludgebombs (it would if i give leftovers) And taillow sounds good, if he survives one sludgebomb but i doubt he would taillow would come in as a revenge killer and then pursuit kill it. Link to comment
londark Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, xStarr said: taillow would come in as a revenge killer and then pursuit kill it. But he asked for something to switch in against gastly 2 minutes ago, athelstan said: Porygon is what i have now but it doesn't survive 2 sludgebombs (it would if i give leftovers) And taillow sounds good, if he survives one sludgebomb but i doubt he would Don't use leftovers in LC, use Oran Berry or something like that Link to comment
xStarr Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, londark said: But he asked for something to switch in against gastly Oh yea forgot mb then Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 pair it with magnemite/aron to switch in on sludge, then double out into taillow/pory gbwead 1 Link to comment
athelstan Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) 25 minutes ago, londark said: But he asked for something to switch in against gastly Don't use leftovers in LC, use Oran Berry or something like that I normally use oran berry, but last time i switched in my porygon this happend: Porygon gets switched in and hit by sludgebomb goes from 25HP to 13HP (no oran berry activated) Then he used sludgebomb again and i thought i would survive with 1HP but porygon died... 4 minutes ago, SweeTforU said: pair it with magnemite/aron to switch in on sludge, then double out into taillow/pory Yea, i was thinking of taking magnemite because i still have special choice band, but i don't know which moveset to give it because it doesn't has much choices and i'm also not sure which hidden power Edited December 27, 2016 by athelstan incomplete Link to comment
gbwead Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SweeTforU said: pair it with magnemite/aron to switch in on sludge, then double out into taillow/pory magnemite/aron? please, the best switch on Gastly Sludge Bomb is another Gastly ofc. 1 minute ago, athelstan said: I normally use oran berry, but last time i switched in my porygon this happend: Porygon gets switched in and hit by sludgebomb goes from 25HP to 13HP (no oran berry activated) Then he used sludgebomb again and i thought i would survive with 1HP but porygon died... Sitrus Berry is better on Porygon for that reason since it activates at 50%. However, with some epic high roll + poison, Gastly can still 2HKO porygon even with the Sitrus recovery. Edited December 27, 2016 by gbwead Link to comment
SweeTforU Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, gbwead said: magnemite/aron? please, the best switch on Gastly Sludge Bomb is another Gastly ofc. please gb, u know I'm bad gbwead 1 Link to comment
gbwead Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, SweeTforU said: please gb, u know I'm bad tbh, it's just that I have seen some Gastly Hp Ground around. Link to comment
athelstan Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, gbwead said: magnemite/aron? please, the best switch on Gastly Sludge Bomb is another Gastly ofc. Sitrus Berry is better on Porygon for that reason since it activates at 50%. However, with some epic high roll + poison, Gastly can still 2HKO porygon even with the Sitrus recovery. And then hit him with shadowball? and what is 'epic high roll' Link to comment
gbwead Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, athelstan said: And then hit him with shadowball? and what is 'epic high roll' Ya Shadow Ball from Porygon should kill Gastly. 200 SpA Gastly Sludge Bomb vs. 236 HP / 252 SpD Porygon: 12-15 (46.1 - 57.6%) -- 51.2% chance to 2HKO (12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 15) <-- those are the different dmg rolls of Sludge Bomb If Gastly rolls a 15 dmg Sludge Bomb and poisons Porygon on the switch in, Porygon will receive 18 dmg on that turn. Since Porygon will go below 50% HP, its sitrus berry will heal it. Considering Gastly has 26 HP total, if it loses 15 hit points from high roll Sludge Bomb, if it loses 3 hit points from poison and if it recovers 6 hit points from sitrus berry, that leaves Porygon with 14 hit points. If on the next turn Gastly does Sludge Bomb again and gets another high dmg roll (15 dmg), Porygon will die before being able to do anything. If Gastly holds a Life Ball, Porygon chances of survival are reduced significantly. Edited December 27, 2016 by gbwead SweeTforU 1 Link to comment
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