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I really don't see the Choice Spec Variant as problematic at all. It's just a regular prediction based wallbreaker. Several mons with a Choice Band or a Choice Spec become devastating if they predict correctly. Nidoking, Darmanitan, Dragonite and many more were in that same spot at one point or another. That did not make them broken. What makes a Choice Band/Spec mon broken is when you don't even need to predict. Hydreigon Choice Spec Draco Meteor was able to 2HKO Scizor and that was clearly too much. When it comes to Raikou, a misprediction can be seriously problematic. You can't just spam Electrice moves when there are Ground mons on the opposing team. CM Raikou on the other hand is another monster entierely and can break through such a large portion of our meta with very little effort or support. I really don't understand the following argument: If Raikou needs a boost to break through regular special walls, then it can just boost itself and break throught those walls. These walls need to be able to break Raikou's subs and Teleport/Baton Pass to a faster mon (most likely a scarf user). All these special walls will just get pp stalled otherwise.

Regarding Raikou, I believe that it's the biggest threat in UU right now. Without even looking at versatility in general, I consider the set CM + Sub + Scald + Tbolt to be extremely dangerous. Hippowdon, Gligar, Nidoqueen, Flygon, Rhyperior, Swampert, Roserade, Shaymin, pretty much all the mons that at first glance would be great vs Raikou do not work because of Pressure, Scald Burn, CM SpDef Boost, etc. However, after playing the tier a decent amount, I came to realize there was still some solutions that work fine in the current UU meta. I'm thinking mainly of Quagsire Water Absorb, Blissey Teleport Seismic Toss and Rotom-Mow Night Shade, but other cores can also work to some extent like Venusaur/Shiftry for Sun and Seismitoad for Rain. What I find problematic with Raikou is that the few answers we have can't beat it by themselves and need to work in cononction with other mons, like Scarf mons, Encore Sableye and more importantly back up mons in case Raikou is playing with more than just the Tbolt+Scald coverage. Overall, I still think Raikou is acceptable in UU, but TC should definetly keep a close eye on it and open a discussion thread so players can share strategies against this beast.

It would be nice to be able to disable the Alpha effect in PvP, just like particles, to avoid getting scouted.

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Ya but it should be cleaned for January, not in January.

The BL2 list should really get cleaned up, sooner rather than later.

It's actually one of the best PokeMMO meta we ever had with a lot of options to choose from and where every playstyle is viable.

Lucario has 10 different sets because, no matter what set it runs, there are still too many checks to block it. Lucario needs to be vesatile in order to match up fish and keep the opponent guessing. Its versatily is a byproduct of the flaws from each one of its sets. Lucario also has very little defensive utility. As a steel type with 70/70/70 in defenses and no resistance to Flying or Psychic, Lucario never comes on the field for free.. On top of that, more than 75% of Lucarios play Life Orb, so it puts itself in range of getting killed pretty easily. Lucario is really not even close to banworthy in our current meta.

Not very impressive compared to what we have seen in mmo before. Raikou and Salamence are significantly more viable and centralizing than Lucario. The latter should really not be a high priority when it comes to potential bans.

UU seems pretty stable and I don't think a UU/NU movement freeze is necessary anymore. If a mon drops below the 2.5% December cutoff point, it should be allowed to drop imo. If a mon rises above the 6% December cutoff point, it should also be allowed to move up.

I haven't played NU, so I can't really attest to Scolipede in that tier. However, wouldn't it more simple to just move up Scolipede to UU and just follow usage movements from there. It seems Scolipede would not even move down with its current UU usage right now (bad win rate tho). edit: Just trying to avoid adding a pokemon to the BL2 list when it could probably be UU by usage anyways.

Heal Order has never been nerfed. The reason for that does not matter and is of no concern for PokeMMO. The reality is that the move is still listed on every pokemon site as a 16 PP move. If Heal Order Vespiqueen or Heal Order Smeargle is bad/irrelevant, there is then no justification to nerf the move for no reason.

quick bump on this terrible injustice, hoping it gets fixed in next update

Wobbuffet was NU on his way to Untiered prior to gaining Tickle. People just hate Shadow Tag, so they are fine with an overkill nerf even tho removing Tickle was more than enough. Devs would have probably settled for removing Tickle, but since Shadow Tag was problematic in PVE, they most likely decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

I agree with Suigin.