Robofiend

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-305659949 had to give this megazard + sand team a go, pretty deadly stuff even with a couple of big misplays

Finally someone using LO Starmie Also notice how important Stealth Rock is

Snorut: lax 30/28/26/31/31/28 spikes,hp,fake tears,toxic 250k?

Well that misplay against Zard cost me, in hindsight it wouldve been better to send in Heatran

Do you realize that people can already perform this exact exploit for 1/10th of the effort it would even take to get to far-away destinations by taking advantage of Fallabor or Island 7's closeness to the PC to their advantage? Is there any good reason that these places should be really good for hunting shinies/payday farming while similar places should not? I mean, for fuck's sake, Victory Road Hoenn is literally 2 feet from a Pokemon center, has the highest level mobs in the region and a multitude of rare shinies. If Payday farming that is possible then I don't see why farming any other area in the game is somehow going to be detrimental. In many cases, it's likely that flying back to PC, healing with Nurse Joy (as opposed to manually dragdropping pokes in the PC) and then biking back to the same place is going to be just as fast as biking back to your secret base - and like I said above the pay is always going to be worse than just camping out on Victory Road. As long as a secret base PC is unavailable to players before they finish the story, there's no way this can be exploited to any real effect.

Played my first OU showdown tournament today, gained the love of millions of followers and lost in semis, first loss for M-Sableye goon squad [spoiler] round 1: died before i could replay it round 2: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-305398212 round 3: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-305402198 quarters: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-305405640 semis: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-305411868 [/spoiler] Edit: finals was great too http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-305414691

Also @wolfgang, BL means "borderline" or "banlist" it's an old word that describes pokemon that are too strong for one tier but too weak to be used in the tier above very much. There's no (official) mention of it on PokeMMO but BL is a standard concept in competitive pokemon that originates from Smogon.

I disagree, the whole reasoning here spawned from PokeDaily (ty Greck) because people had to bike back to PC to switch teams, I'd like the feature in my own base if I were to ever get one

I don't see why it wouldn't suffice to just add an incentive to keep your base in one place, say a moving fee of $50k or whatever for all your furniture. Or, ya know, just making the PC cost some of money

But how does that compromise any gameplay? It's not like running into Tentacools is a significant part of the game that players need to experience, hence repels, nor is the distance from a pokemon center even related to the value of getting to that place. Worst case, just make Secret Power unobtainable until after the storyline or something.

Not seeing how that's an exploit, you can just fly and bike for like 25s to get back to anywhere in the game

Pretty simple: it'd be nice to be able to hang out in someone's secret base and get pokes in and out of PC. Imo should be free but whatever devs just make us grind 100k BP it's fine

Well technically we're talking about Trapinch too.. Nik brought up elsewhere that once CB locked into Pursuit, RS or Tpunch, Trapinch can kill Meta/Hera, as well as Chansey (although it can't really do both at the same time). Like Diglett, it's pretty weak but could essentially serve the same purpose. Banning the ability kind of makes sense because at that point we all just agree that it's the ability that's broken. If that were the case, we'd ban it for being uncompetitive, similar to Baton Pass or Swagplay or something. The only problem is that it's not super obvious that Arena Trap is also broken in other tiers, although it's not hard to see how people could start using Trapinch/Diglett for Kanga/Fable in UU. I say we just ban the ability and hope thats the last OU ban we have to make.

Update: we're talking about whether to ban AT or just Dugtrio

Fuark yeh Lions

I feel like I addressed this in earlier post but ok

If anyone else has an opinion, now's the time to voice it. Since this thread's been around for 7 days and support for Dugtrio ban has been pretty much unanimous it's likely that TC will be voting soon.

That hurt to watch

Is there anywhere rankings and past weeks are stored beside being in your mind Orange? It'd be nice to have for up to the minute shit talking

Gutina hooked it up with some fast, cheap EVs today. recommended/10

We shouldn't really even be talking about the theorymon-only CP set since no one's ever going to run that as long as Toxic exists. CP is plain useless without Stored Power and it's not even worth discussing. The CM set on the other hand is a lot harder to break without Crawdaunt or Absol (who's just plain bad usually) and it offers a lot more offense while protecting against pretty much anything but Toxic stall and Choice Attackers predicting the CM and safely entering battle. I think this is more what JJ was getting at than arguing about non-existent CP sets. Imo it is a valid point since after a CM Slowking can stall out Manectric and other would-be special side answers to it. While Craw and Absol can still break it, most players just go for the Toxic stall since it's way safer than coming in on a +2 attack. This in itself is a bit centralizing and generally worth talking about. 252 SpA Manectric Thunderbolt vs. +1 248 HP / 0 SpD Slowking: 156-186 (39.6 - 47.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

I need 2 pokes done 252atk, 252speed

bump updated

The Raging Lions (0) vs (0) The Mariachis $100k on lions

Electabuzz: Timid: 28/22/27/26/26/31, 6/0/0/252/0/252, Ice punch, tbolt, fire punch, light screen this male or fem?