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Well apparently hitmonlee isnt viable either because of slowking, meaning ALL of those other physical attackers are more viable than hitmonlee, to an extent. And most of them are some what viable anyways, except maybe ariados

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Let's not pretend that slowking magically never takes damage throughout a match or gets knocked off or gets toxic'ed or burned or pursuited. Also let's not pretend EVERYONE runs bold slowking. I run calm slowking because it can take plume giga drain/victreebel solarbeam in a pinch and the lack of def isn't too noticable, except for thief hitmonlees

I think there's a slight flaw in people's thinking process. Slowking isn't exactly OP just because it walls hitmonlee and scizor, the only two things that slowking can actually wall (and thief hitmonlee/scizor 2hkos slowking anyways, so um no it's not exactly OP), there are tons of choice banders that take on slowking still. Golem, donphan, steelix, nidoking, crawdaunt, sharpedo, fearow, granbull, kingler, kangaskhan, houndoom, absol, breloom, zangoose, sceptile, azumarill, shiftry, stantler, and ariados (you're welcome gunthug) all 2hko slowking with their cb set. Let's not pretend that slowking walls everything, it only walls a few choice banders such as hitmonlee and a few of the weaker choice banders, and is usually forced to slack off the damage, giving the other person a free switch into anything they want. And like I mentioned before in this thread, slowking can't switch in on walls too easily either, as most of them run toxic such as slowking, chansey, clefable, gligar, and defensive steelix, which hinders slowking's ability to wall things greatly. And the argument that teams usually have cleric support isn't great either just because team synergy isn't banworthy, which most people should know by now.

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hm not sure on crobat atm, will ask around and bump

don't describe me too much, please keith

swords dance+aerial ace sceptile and endeavor sceptile both take vileplume to some extent. The first takes on sp defensive plume actually, and endeavor sceptile just brings everything down to 1 hp. So in theory, there aren't any good counters to sceptile actually. I'm not really sure on giving pokemon exact rankings since it all seems kind of vague.

did you see tj's buys last season

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Reflect_%28move%29 gives you all the pokemon that learn reflect either through leveling, breeding, or via tm.

my mom used to tell me something when I was a kid, "get good at signing up yo". Some valuable advice

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i think firelion didn't run kanga vs me either, although I think he was running your team basically

what was the exact situation? iirc it was vs keith in underdogs tournament

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make a pokemon hold hat, release pokemon=profit?

what was kanga usage in psl season 2? like 90%?

And there's hitmonlee which ohkos crawdaunt with mach punch, so crawdaunt will realistically never sweep, imo its dropped in viability since umbreon was banned since umbreon was pretty much set up bait for it.

Interested to see what rigamorty will write in attempts to keep the monopoly on this hat

Oh so I just need to survive 60 turns to time clause someone. Nice, gg scouters

just no weekday oceanics, there was a uu one awhile back and it had several byes, and less demand for UU tournaments it seems anyways

gg lyle

I would say discussing time clause falls under the "Event Feedback" category of this thread, when most of the discussion is referring to the tournament that happened yesterday.

I'm assuming that there won't be any time clause in PSL matches?