gbwead

"Rest of ..." teams are imo super lame and I don't want those. If a country wants to split into two, it's possible as long as they organize themselves to make it happen.

Absolutely not. If I host WC 6, I will never do any of those things. One team is not a allowed to split into two. If players from the same country want two different parts of their country represented, they can do so by creating two seperate teams from the start. I'm not going to organize 4 qualifying tournaments that will split the teams into two divisions that will then go through different group stages. This would be a huge mess. We don't even know how many teams will sign up, so there is a huge chance the 2nd Division bracket looks horrendus with tons of byes. All games will be played at the same place, Vermillion Ch4, so that spectators and players know exactly where to go when a match is announced instead of searching for that match all over the place.

I take back what I said, probably best to let it rise on its own.

Not broken, but should still be moved up imo.

Yes, you may register Brazil North as a seperate team from Brazil South. Both can get selected. However, if there is a team for Brazil North and another team for Brazil, only one will be selected.

Every team that gets selected becomes a pick up team. Any player can register to join a team as long as the captain of that team accepts them. Important note: I'm allowing any kind of region to sign up for this World Cup exactly for that reason. If you come from a country that doesn't have enough players to form a complete team, you may form an "alliance" with neighbouring countries in order to have enough numbers (both in donations and players) in order to form a complete roster. In that sense, "Rest of ..." teams would no longer exist as a leftovers team, but as a cohesive group put together by the players themselves. This will also allow countries with enormous amount of players to split the country into different regions. Instead of China A and China B, we could have China South and China North. Instead of USA A and USA B, USA East Coast and USA West Coast...

That's an interesting idea. I need to give it more thoughts because right now donating to teams matters for the team selection and that is before player registration. Let's say a player wants to play for his own country and donates to that country. Sadly, his/her team doesn't get selected (not enough donations, not enough donators from his/her country, etc.). That player still wants to play WC and will have to ask to join the team of other countries. The problem here is that team funding is already done at that point, so I need to maybe change the order in which things are done. I'm also wondering if a donation floor or ceiling could be considered.

It doesn't include Captain, so Captain + 3 players. You are correct someone will ill intent can still screw people over. I don't have a solution yet for that, but I'll try to work on it. Having spectated several WC seasons, something always bothered me with the sign up process. Players sign up for the country they want to play for and then they automatically get on a team with players that want to fight for the same country. There is nothing wrong with that on paper, but I feel that creates issues for countries that have players that don't get along. If they can put their difference aside that is great. If they can't, it creates a lot of issues. I'm saying this because I'm concerned with forcing players to play for a captain or with other players they don't like. Since I want regions to be selected through donations in WC 6, captains & players have a big incentive to work together to secure a spot. If players from a country do not want to be under the leadership banner of someone they dislike, they have the ability to create their own team and compete against that person they deem unfit. Basically, I really want to give players more control when it comes to teams creation in WC and I don't want anyone ending up playing for a captain they don't want. If a country is divided prior to the season start, they really need to get their shit together before the season start. If working together is a deal breaker, they should imo not play together. I know it's far from ideal, but I think overall it could do great in the long run. The funding time definetly need to increase. I agree. I just read Huargensy proposal and extra time will be needed for that to happen as well. Also, regarding the donation race, I was planning to hide the donations from each region in order to prevent last minute donations seeking to "steal" a spot. Let's say 22 teams sign up but there are only 16 spots available. Right now: The 16 spots would go to the top donators. What you are suggesting (correct me if I am wrong): 14 of the 16 spots go to the top donators The remaining 8 teams play a Team Tournament style event and the finalists get the 2 remaining spots I think you have a good idea. The only thing I would add is clause to ensure the TT tournament must have 4 participants or 8 participants (no byes). This would mean that if 21 teams sign ups, this is what I think should happen: 14 of the 16 spots go to the top donators The top 4 donators of the 7 remaining teams play a Team Tournmanet style event and the finalists get the remaining spots. Since there would be no difference between being first vs second for that tournament, I was thinking perhaps it would be best to have 2 seperate brackets based on Time Zones. Let's say there are 8 remaining teams. 4 of them are countries from the West and 4 of them are countries from the East. The countries from the West compete among themselves at a time fit for all of them. Same goes for the countries from the East. Basically, like we have for end of the season ladder tournaments, East and West at two different times.

@Poufilou I agree with the first part of your post. I get the idea of funding and stuff, but I would not encourage this. Imagine a scenario where 1 rich player decides to claim a random country, he only needs 2 partners in crime (that dont even have to be from that country to basically block this country from participating in an easy way (if they have bad intentions). You don't even need a lot of money for that, even like 20M can sometimes be enough. This is just an example, but there are loopholes in this, and donations should never reflect the level of investment alone, and as a host you should encourage integrity and trust within a team between players and their captains. In order for someone to claim a country, that person needs to get verified which mean I will need some kind of confirmation that they indeed come from where they claim. After getting verified, that person needs to get 3 players - having played for that country in the past - to donate for his/her team. This means that this person would not only seek to screw over his own country, but he would also need 3 players from that country to support him/her in doing so while competing against another captain from that country. If someone is really determined to screw his own country over, this could indeed be a problem. Maybe I am naive, but I don't think someone would do that. I realise that this is indeed a loophole though and will try to make the structure more rigid to prevent abuse as much as possible. Is it still the case if that player played for another country last year ? Are you keeping that rule ? If not, it's basically just having captains being verified ? Just because of that rule, I would encourage EVEN LESS the "better dono wins" in the event of 2 captains for same team. Because otherwise you can just make your super team of your friends and you claiming a country and it just ruins the purpose. I would suggest this : in the event 2 captains chose same country, the captain with the most players donators that already played for that same country in previous WC wins. I have nothing to say for the group stages and the tier list, except that I'm glad for LC to return and have its rightful place in this event. The rule that players can only play for the country they represented the previous year would no longer apply. However, at least 3 donators must have played for that team in the past world cups in order for the team to be accepted. So basically, there are 3 categories of participants: Captains: they come from the region of the world they seek to represent and choose who will play for that team Donators: they have played for the region of the world they seek to represent and are automatically accepted into the team they donated for Regular players: they do not need to come from or have played for the region of the world they seek to represent, they just need to be accepted by the captain I'll take myself as an example. I have played for team France in World Cup 2. I have played for team Canada in World Cup 3. If I donate for team Canada or team France in World Cup Six, I will be automatically accepted in that team if the captain accepts my donation. However, if I sign up for team Brazil in World Cup Six, I will not be accepted in that team unless the captain allows me to join. For the captains, they are a central part of the event and will be required to communicate with the host & staff as well as other captains on a regular basis, by going through the verification process, I will ensure that they are actually representing a region of the world they come from, but also it will help me assess if they have the ability and motivation to put the necessary effort to manage their team. I don't want people to worry, I'm not going to ask anyone to provide me copies of their passport or anything like that. A simple conversation where I ask questions will suffice in the event staff is unable to help me with verification. Thanks for the feedback. You have giving me a lot to think about and I will make adjustments.

I already said anyone is free to host WC 6 and I will gladly ask staff to close this thread. The point of this post is feedback, nothing more. I'm not ignoring your post. I just wait to see what others say regarding your thoughts to see if people share your opinion.

Thank you.

If anyone wants to host WC 6 instead of me, they are welcomed to do so. If no one wants to do it, I'm ready to do it and I'm giving the opportunity to the community to voice their opinion on what I am planning. Also, WC and PSL are once a year event. This often means that whenever a new season starts, people often forget about the previous season and fail to give proper feedback on what went well and what could be improved. I'm opening this thread to get as much information as possible when everything is fresh in people's mind. I heard that following the Group Stage of WC 5, there would be a 2 weeks break prior to the playoffs. I thoughts that's a good window to announce the potential next season without removing any hype from the current one.

Ya I know..., but since I had already created the WCSIX account for donations and didn't want any confusion, I thought it would probably be best to keep the same format.

Well it depends, are you asking if we think Staraptor is broken in UU and therefore should be banned or are you asking if we think Staraptor will end up OU by usage in the near future? I'm personally not sure Staraptor would be viable enough to be OU, but at the same time I would hate to see it remain UU. Imo, it should be OU for the time being.

I decided to open this thread very early in order to get as much feedback as possible from World Cup 5 while it is still going on. Also, since the Group Stage of World Cup 5 is now over, I hope eliminated teams will have something to look forward for next year.

Rules & Guidelines If you wish to apply as a member of the World Cup Staff or the World Cup Police, please contact me. Scheduling Players need to contact their opponent as soon as the week start. If they are mia at the start of the week, they need to give their availability to their captain before going mia. If a player is significantly more available than their opponent, their opponent will have to be forcibly subbed out. If both players are equally available, they will both be subbed out. No extensions will be granted (unless extreme circumstances are at play and the general event schedule remains unaffected). Once players agree on a specific time, they must post their scheduled battle time in the weekly thread at least 10 mins prior to the duel start. Failure to schedule properly will lead to activity decisions by the World Cup Staff. Disconnections If you get disconnected during your match, do not reconnect to the game until a member of the World Cup Staff allows you to do so. Upon reconnection, previously disconnected players will have only 15 seconds to link their team to pre determined World Cup Staff. Based on the game situation when the disconnection occured, the World Cup staff will determine if the game will be replayed or not and what are the rematch parameters. If the World Cup staff do not enforce the rematch on the player, the disconnected player will be considered the loser unless his/her opponent agrees to rematch on his/her own accord. World Cup Police Rules Coaching is not allowed. A player may still request assistance in the form of calculations 3 times in a duel at most (for players unable to do it by themselves). Sharing calculations unrequested is deemed as coaching. Ghosting is never allowed. Throwing a duel is never allowed. Sabotaging your own team is not allowed. Rule Breaking Reports If you have proofs or evidence of any rule break, please contact a member of the WC Police: @CarolML @Poufilou @Shadow Rule Breaking Consequences If the burden proof is deemed sufficient by the WC Police , offenders may expect the following consequences: Warning in the form of yellow card(s) attributed to a team in case of minor offense of Coaching or Throwing. If a team has 2 yellow cards, it will result in the temporary suspension of 2 players amongst their roster in the week the yellow card was received. They will also be suspended the week following the one where yellow card was received. Any additional yellow card past 2 results in red cards. Punishment for offense of Ghosting, Sabotaging and major offense of Coaching and Throwing results in red card(s), where the offender is banned from the competition. Team captain will also be suspended from playing as a result if they share the guilt one way or another.

Pools Creation Draft Pool A Pool B Pool C Pool D Defending Champions Argentina WC 4 Champions China WC 3 Champions Belgium WC 1 Champions Brazil Argentina's Choice (1st Pick) Australia China's Choice (2nd Pick) Germany Belgium's Choice (3rd Pick) Canada Brazil's Choice (4th Pick) Colombia Australia's Choice (8th Pick) Ecuador Germany's Choice (7th Pick) Mexico Canada's Choice (6th Pick) Venezuela Colombia's Choice (5th Pick) USA Ecuador's Choice (9th Pick) Cuba Mexico's Choice (10th Pick) Peru Venezuela's Choice (11th Pick) Africa Last Team Spain I will tag the captain of each team when it's their turn to pick a team to join their pool. They will have 12 hours to pick once I tag them. 1st Pick by Argentina (Pool A): Australia 2nd Pick by China (Pool B): Germany 3rd Pick by Belgium (Pool C): Canada 4th Pick by Brazil (Pool D): Colombia 5th Pick by Colombia (Pool D): USA 6th Pick by Canada (Pool C): Venezuela 7th Pick by Germany (Pool B): Mexico 8th Pick by Australia (Pool A): Ecuador 9th Pick by Ecuador (Pool A): Cuba 10th Pick by Mexico (Pool B): Peru 11th Pick by Venezuela (Pool C): Africa Last Pick (Pool D): Spain

Registered Teams Team Captain Mandatory Donators Donations Multiplier WC Champions Selection Score 1 2 3 USA @drewq @Imabetheverybest1 @DoubleJ @xSparkie 20,000,000 x1 20,000,000 China North @queest @RedHair @heichicoda @loveyun 32,433,333 x1.25 40,541,666 Mexico @Edstorm @Latiosrol @Akaruyo @Xigbar 26,000,000 x1 26,000,000 African Nations* @ArtOfKilling @PoseidonWrath @GodXebec @Azphiel 7,000,000 x1 7,000,000 Belgium @Mkns1070 @Jaawax @smadagos @AwaXGoku 13,500,003 x1.5 20,250,004 Argentina @PepeDeLaGente @GasaiYunoSan @Zhikodark @manzano 25,250,000 x2 50,500,000 Brazil @DridrigoFK @JhowCrazy @Biqueta @Makarovs 21,000,000 x1.5 31,500,000 Vietnam @TheShyn SatanaUytki @Jefsu @Mizuki 12,000,000 x1 12,000,000 Cuba @Maikell @lachidrago @Andykillua @Lactosoid 21,000,000 x1 21,000,000 LATAM** @Cristi @Juanchoqui @YEYOxD @KinsM 3,000,000 x1 3,000,000 Spain @pablobacas @isi1993 @Axelgor @DrTylerGrey 23,000,000 x1 23,000,000 Ecuador @ArthurLeywinn @XxDarkDemonXx @Icecubexd @borisOMG4K 50,000,300 x1 50,000,300 Central America*** @YJos @NotWillfer CeresaWC MrXehanort 10,000,000 x1 10,000,000 Germany @Eipott @CHUCKunso @RexB @CaptnBaklava 15,000,003 x1 15,000,003 South Korea @edc56 MeCyma @Seulang @leehiii 9,000,000 x1 9,000,000 China South @YIueil @jackandmarydolov @Cake @SQ 10,000,000 x1.25 12,500,000 Canada @MathewMat @hiddentrainerj @MamaWally @Ssundee1357 20,000,000 x1 20,000,000 Portugal @Shadow @pachima @razimove @DeusBruno 7,750,000 x1 7,750,000 Venezuela @Gabriel20 @ZyzyD @CipherKS @clayclover 20,000,000 x1 20,000,000 Colombia @Edwardinho @MegaBladers @Kepzal @juankaba 15,600,600 x1 15,600,600 Peru @xLuneth @LuisAnderson @JuLioZm @Tear 17,500,000 x1 17,500,000 Australia @Queza @EmoDuck @Rakuzai @xSevera 20,010,000 x1 20,010,000 *African Nations refers to the alliance between all countries within the continent of Africa. **LATAM refers to the alliance between the following countries: Paraguay, Uruguay, Bolivia, Chile & República Dominicana. ***Central America refers to the alliance between following countries: Nicaragua, Panama, El Savador & Costa Rica.

Donations - IGN: "WCSIX" Monkeydmathew: $ 20,000,000 Forfiter: $ 4,000,000 Team Donations: $ 347,294,239 USA: $ 20,000,000 China North: $32,433,333 Mexico: $ 26,000,000 Africa: $ 7,000,000 Belgium: $ 13,500,003 Argentina: $ 25,250,000 Brazil: $ 21,000,000 Cuba: $ 21,000,000 Spain: $ 23,000,000 Ecuador: $ 50,000,300 Germany: $ 15,000,003 Canada: $ 20,000,000 Venezuela: $ 20,000,000 Colombia: $ 15,600,600 Peru: $ 17,500,000 Australia: $ 20,010,000 In Game Registration Fees: $ 225,000 TOTAL: $ 371,519,239

PokeMMO World Cup 6 Discord Server Tournament Schedule 20 or 24 teams selected (>=24 teams sign ups) 16 teams selected (<24 teams sign ups) Captain Nomination | July 23rd, 2023 to August 13th, 2023 Anyone can apply to become a captain by filling the following template by replacing gbwead with your name and Canada with region in the world you want to represent (a country, a state, a territory, a province, etc.): Warning! I do not want to know if the place in the world you want to represent is a country, a nation, a city, a region, a province, a state, a territory, etc. Any sign up that deviate from the template in any way will be rejected and removed at my discretion. Potential captains will be interrogated by me or another member of the World Cup Staff to get certified. List of captain's obligations: Managing the funds of their team: captains will have to collect funds for their team Selecting a roster for their team: captains will have the final say on who is accepted or rejected from their team Submitting weekly lineups for their team Assisting players scheduling their duels Being active on Discord Campaign & Funding | August July 23rd, 2023 to August 19th, 2023 Captains will have to collect donations from members of the community. Captains will also need to keep track of who donates and how much they donated on a private discord channel or private forum message between World Cup Staff and the captain. Players can only donate to one team. A team need to get a least 3 donations from players having played in previous world cups for the region represented by the team. The PokeMMO Master file will be used to verify the representation of the 3 mandatory donators. The number of spots are limited based on the number of signed up teams to ensure only the most motivated teams get selected and indirectly maximazing donations. Teams Selection | August 19th & 20th, 2023 On August 19th, 2023, all teams will yield their collected donations to WCSIX. Teams must do so before 11:59 AM UTC in order for their donations to be receivable. If more than 30 unique teams sign up, only 24 will be selected. The 22 teams that donated the most will be the selected. Out of the remaining unselected teams, the 8 that donated the most will be split into two qualifiers tournaments (4 easterner teams will compete for one spot & 4 westerner teams will compete for another spot). The teams that do not get selected at all will have their donations returned. If there are 24 to 29 unique teams that sign up, only 20 will be selected. The 18 teams that donated the most will be the selected. Out of the remaining unselected teams, the 8 that donated the most will be split into two qualifiers tournaments (4 easterner teams will compete for one spot & 4 westerner teams will compete for another spot). The teams that do not get selected at all will have their donations returned. If there are 23 or less unique teams that sign up, only 16 will be selected. The 14 teams that donated the most will be the selected. Out of the remaining unselected teams, the 8 that donated the most will be split into two qualifiers tournaments (4 easterner teams will compete for one spot & 4 westerner teams will compete for another spot). The teams that do not get selected at all will have their donations returned on August 27th. The Qualifier tournament for East will be held on August 20th at 10 AM UTC. The Qualifier tournament for West will be held on August 20th at 6 PM UTC. Notes: If two captains represent the same World Region, only one captain can be selected (the one that collected the most funds). The term "unique teams" refers to a World Region represented exclusively by one team. Previous World Cup winners will be favored in the selection process with a x1.5 booster to their donations and x2 for the Defending Champions. For instance, if Team USA East Coast has collected 14M and Team China has collected 10M, Team China will be selected over Team USA East Coast because Team China is a previous WC winner (10M x 1.5 = 15M). If two or more teams donate the same amount of money, the team that was created first will be favored. During the qualification tournaments, the only eligeable players for his team will be the captain and the 3 mandatory donators. The format of the qualification tournaments will be a Bo3 in (i) OU, (ii) Captain Choice (OU/UU/NU/Dubs/LC) and (iii) Captain Choice (OU/UU/NU/Dubs/LC). List of previous WC winners: Brazil, France, Belgium, China and Argentina. Example for 24 sign ups: Players Registration | August 20th, 2023 to September 2nd, 2023 Once the teams have been selected, a player registration thread will be opened. Players will only be able to register for one of the teams selected. Once a player signs up for a specific region, the captain of that specific region will need to reply to the sign up by stating whether or not they accept or refuse the player in their team. Players do not have be Italian in order to be in the Italian Team, they just need to be accepted by the Italian captain. Be wary of which captain you choose to support during the campaign and funding process, they will have the final say regarding who ends up in their team. The amount of players per team is unlimited. Exception: Players that have contributed as one of the 3 mandatory donations will be automatically accepted. Captains, be wary of who you choose to accept donations from. At the half way point of the player registration, if a team is at risk of not getting at least 6 players in their roster, that team will be replaced by the next top donator team. Group Stage 24 teams selected | September 3rd, 2023 to October 8th, 2023 The 24 selected teams will be divided in 4 pools of 6 teams. Each week, teams from the same pool will face each other based on the weekly lineup submitted by their respective captain. At the end of the Group Stage, the top 3 teams of each pool will advance to the Quarter Finals. At the end of the Group Stage, the last 3 teams will be eliminated. CRITERIA 20 teams selected | September 3rd, 2023 to October 8th, 2023 The 20 selected teams will be divided in 4 pools of 5 teams. Each week, teams from the same pool will face each other based on the weekly lineup submitted by their respective captain. Teams that have no opponent from their own pool for the week will face off against teams in the same situation from other pools. Based on their performance in these out of pools face offs, teams will earn points difference (2nd criteria in Group Stage) and the best performing pools will get manager choice during the knock-out stage. At the end of the Group Stage, the top 3 teams of each pool will advance to the Quarter Finals. At the end of the Group Stage, the last 2 teams will be eliminated. OFFPOOL MATCHES CRITERIA 16 teams selected | September 3rd, 2023 to October 1st, 2023 The 16 selected teams will be divided in 4 pools of 4 teams. Each week, teams from the same pool will face each other based on the weekly lineup submitted by their respective captain. At the end of the Group Stage, the top 2 teams of each pool will advance to the Quarter Finals. At the end of the Group Stage, the last 2 teams will be eliminated. CRITERIA Knock-Out Stage 20 or 24 teams selected | October 8th, 2023 to October 29th, 2023 Top 2 and top 3 teams of each pool will be placed in the first round of 8 teams single elimination bracket. The top 1 team of each pool will advance directly to the second round of the same single elimination bracket. The winner of the single elimination bracket will win World Cup 6. 16 teams selected | October 1st, 2023 to October 22th, 2023 Top 2 teams of each pool will be placed in the first round of 8 teams single elimination bracket. The winner of the single elimination bracket will win World Cup 6. Prize Distribution 1st Place will get 70% of the prize pool & the title of World Champion. 2nd Place will get 20% of the prize pool. Community members that record duels will get 10% of the prize pool. The Prize pool for WC 6 will come from donations (possible to donate at any time) and teams funding (August 6th, 2023 to August 19th, 2023). If you want to support the 6th edition of World Cup, you may donate in game to "WCSIX". Tiers Group Stage: i. OU ii. OU iii. UU iv. NU v. Dubs vi. LC Knock-Out Stage (16 and 24 teams selected tiers): i. OU ii. UU iii. NU iv. Dubs v. LC Knock-Out Stage (20 teams selected tiers): i. OU ii. OU iii. UU iv. NU v. Dubs vi. LC + Manager choice = One tier removed Please refer to the PokeMMO Official Tier Lists thread for OU, UU, NU and Dubs. Please refer to the Little Cup Rules for LC. Join the Little Cup Club in order to get access to further tiering information. Rules & Guidelines If you wish to apply as a member of the World Cup Staff or the World Cup Police, please contact me. Previous World Cup links WC 1 WC 2 WC 3 WC 4 WC 5 World Cup Master File World Cup Six links Captain Nomination Thread Eastern Qualifier Summary Western Qualifier Summary Player Registration Thread Challonge Bracket Betting Thread Group Stage - Week 1 Group Stage - Week 2 Group Stage - Week 3 Quarter Finals Semi Finals Finals Feedback Thread Donations to WCSIX account.

Ditto Imposter looks like the least expensive "viable" comp we ever got in the game. It will most likely end up OU just because of the low cost.

Imo, for the next 2 months, TC should forcibly move up the pokemon they deem as big threats to the appropriate tier. They should also use 4.36% as the move up cut-off point and they should remove the move down cut-off point entirely. Basically, usage should only be used for move ups and, if a threat turns out to be underwhelming, TC can move down the threat manually if necessary. edit: Move down based on usage doesn't make much sense since people are still breeding these new threats.

Crobat and Golbat are imo more viable in OU than Nidoqueen, it just seems wrong to have Nidoqueen move up there while Crobat/Golbat remain in lower tiers.

I just can't see anyone playing an offensive Sheer Force Nidoqueen in OU. Nidoking outclasses Nidoqueen completly offensively. It will imo never be OU by usage and, even if it ends up broken in UU, it will need to be tested at some point, might as well test it now.

What is the procedure for pokemons gaining new Hidden Abilities? Why is Nidoking and Nidoqueen treated differently from Golbat, Crobat and Watchog? If you want to play it safe, just ban everything to OU without thinking. But if the objective is to evaluate where everything is the most likely to end up, I would do this: Nidoking --> OU (just to be safe) Nidoqueen --> UU (just to be safe) Watchog --> Untiered (no change) Crobat --> UU (no change) Golbat --> UU (Golbat is not broken in NU, it simply has little chance of staying there long term and I believe it would be best to speed up the tiering process) I want to insist on Nidoqueen. There is absolutely no way it will be OU by usage imo and the odds that Nidoqueen ends up broken in UU seems so unlikely.