Rigamorty

Tier council got together and built the tiers personally. They're just temporary until we get actual usage/shit stops being volatile.

The competitive community isn't big enough to keep trying to spread focus across even more tiers. UU and NU are already hard enough to get full brackets of, we don't need to divide the attention of competitive players even more than that.

some things in this game just never change, one of those things being the attitude of players in ranked matchmaking

you didn't donate, now fuck off before kudasai's stupid ass takes you seriously,.

i dunno, you probably spent it on choice bands or some other bad investment.

I've sent back all the money @Kudasai you can lock this thread now.

lmao. k.

You know what, just for that one fuck you and your event. This money is no longer going towards PSL. I'm keeping it.

Pretty much. It will either go to psl or we will run this event after the update, haven't decided yet. N-no No, and he already sent that money to me.

Were there other posts in here before or am I losing it

Okay if tranz somehow didn't win worst player of the season these rewards really are biased and stupid. I will never be able to agree with anyone being worse than tranz. Just because expectations were already low doesn't make him less garbage. Smh, shit managers.

At this point I think it's actually ONLY legendaries that are missing. If I'm not mistaken we have everything else from gens 1-3 for Pokémon.

Don't worry I'm on it. So what all is the idea here and why is there a thread (or multiple even) for it? You made threads for the sake of proposing an idea to the people who host an unofficial event? That's silly. PM your ideas to BurntZebra (the current host) or post the idea in one of the existing PSL threads. By doing it this way it seemed like you were trying to create your own PSL brand event, which no one is in agreement with. But also you were unclear on the proposal of the thing you apparently actually want, and I still don't even quite know what it is you're asking for. So to reiterate: If you're trying to host a new PSL event, no fuck you. If you're making a suggestion to the hosts of PSL, this is the improper way to do it.

And that's good for them. That's also an example I never asked for, but okay. The people who really really like playing and competing, and who have been on hours a day for months/years will probably take that extra step to use perfect shit, all I'm saying is that they don't necessarily have to. I gave examples of that, because burden of proof was on me, now you're flinging names at me like I'm supposed to care how they play. I'm trying to prove something does exist, and you're trying to prove it doesn't exist. I'm showing proof of that thing existing, while you're showing me proof of something else also existing and then trying to say that makes me wrong. This has gotten very off topic and we're going in circles, I'm home now and at my computer so I'll be playing WoW, hit me up at Rigamorty#1476 on battle.net if you feel like arguing this anymore for what ever reason.

Random in the sense that I don't think you have any actual way of backing up what they use, you just listed off good players you know, regardless of their pokemon's IVs. I wasn't calling them randoms, I was calling your use of them as examples random. That derived from me knowing lifestyle doesn't use all 31's. I'm not trying to come off as aggressive, I just almost always tend to because I'm me and I really like the word "fuck." Don't get triggered by wording, stay on topic. And no, I don't think IVs would have saved me from a single loss in any match in recent memory. And nah, I've already gotten bored of the dead ladder, like I said I just played it for like a week with some decent success because I bought some new shit and felt like it. So I decided to go play a different game.

Because the price difference between the two things are exponential, and so is the amount of effort needed when making them, that's the entire point here. The whole talk is about how accessible competitive play is for players. I just beat enchanteur the other day with the exact team I posted so yes, you can beat top players with imperfect Pokémon. I wouldn't say I can beat him consistently because after a point he will know what all I have to run because he has a lot more comps and spends a lot more time playing, but that's all aside from IVs. And i know for a fact lifestyles ass isn't using perfect Pokémon, ive borrowed shit from him during psl, so don't toss in random good player names and make shit up to try to prove your point. I dunno about all the other people you named, but yeah no fucking way. And yeah im glad you and the random people you named supposedly have the time for that, not everyone does, but it's still worth competing with lesser Pokémon because you CAN win. Even if not optimally, it's not impossible.

Find me a single person who would dare say "don't bother playing PvP unless you have full teams of 6x31 pokemon" I mean, 2 of the pokemon in the picture I linked earlier were ones I bought from JJ. I think he's been moderately successful a couple times. I've got an orange friend who I know doesn't run all perfect pokemon but still sees a fair amount of success. But yeah I mean they shouldn't bother playing without all perfect comps. You can/will do better with better pokemon. Higher IV is better. No doubt about it. But is it always worth the cost when it comes to this game? especially given the time it takes to do shit in this game. Not always worth it to everyone, and not always necessary. That's all I'm saying.

I mean he said let it go to me, who was agreeing with him. And no one is wrong really, it's kind of a matter of opinion. Every calc they've posted in regard to saying you NEED higher IV's is just a barely higher chance to live in super niche situations. Those situations aren't worth spending the extra arm and leg when breeding in my opinion. Your examples are bad because they have not convinced me that it's necessary to spend the extra money on the slightly better IVs. You turned bad chances of survival into slightly less bad but still not good chances of survival. I'm not impressed. And uhhh, any match with a sweeper ever i guess? Like 99% of replays will contain a sweeper dying to a move that wouldn't have been saved by a higher IV. I killed a heracross earlier with eruption. Do you think it died because it had like 29 sp.def instead of 31? that guy really better invest in a better heracross smh. No one is saying better IV's aren't better. That is glaringly obvious. It's just also very possible to succeed competitively without those perfect IV's.

Yes, it is very obviously optimal to play with higher IVs, but it is still very possible to win without them. As seen in all the calcs you posted where it just became a higher chance to survive and never even a guaranteed chance. Your examples are pretty bad here. Also what the fuck kind of example are you even asking for? 252 SpA Life Orb Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Starmie: 393-463 (150.5 - 177.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO Possible damage amounts: (393, 398, 400, 406, 408, 416, 421, 424, 429, 432, 439, 445, 447, 452, 455, 463) 252 SpA Life Orb Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Starmie: 460-541 (200 - 235.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO Possible damage amounts: (460, 463, 468, 476, 478, 486, 491, 494, 502, 507, 515, 517, 523, 530, 533, 541) There you go two calcs where the lower IVs died as well as the higher IV, nothing to do with the inferior IV. Really what all is "show me a game where one of your sweepers fainted and it's not because of inferior IVs" supposed to mean?

I agree, brace prices aren't necessarily the answer, his post is just what got me thinking of the things I said. to add onto this, here's the team that brought me to #13 on the leaderboard when I decided to actually ladder for like a week because I was bored and bought some new comps from JJ Granted ladder is just one part of playing competitively and tournaments are a whole different ball game, but this is just to show what it takes to make a viable team.

I think you're actually onto something here kameme. Gonna use WoW as an example like I tend to do often, because it's the one other MMO i play a lot, also its the most successful one ever so ye. Throughout the life of an expansion in WoW, patches come out that add more of that expansions content. While that happens, there are also lots of "catch up" mechanics implemented, so that anyone who just started the expansion can experience almost all of the expansion with how ever much time they've got left to do so before the new one comes out and basically ruins all of that expansions content. It's very fair to compare the situation we're in now to a WoW expansion, where in a few months most of what's going on will be obsolete. This means for people who want to get into comp, the predicted two months until the update isn't enough time to truly play what's left of what we have, and any time spent doing things now will likely be wasted. Same goes for old players too even, there's little to no purpose to do things, because everything is as time-consuming as it has always been, which is VERY FUCKING TIME CONSUMING, and with the update on the horizon it isn't worth it. So the idea of making things easier/simpler toward the end of an update's (the major 6+ months between them ones) is something that should probably be considered.

Honestly I think the amount of work might in fact be the goal. While I know to old players it sounds absolutely terrible to have to redo this amount of shit, to new players it slightly levels the playing field. Also it kinda counts as more """content""" if you didn't see this coming you haven't played this game or MMOs in general long enough.

Well protean didn't exist at all until gen 6 and that's the one in particular that was mentioned.

Don't see how we could, we wouldn't have a rom for it. And we all know how that goes. Unless we're gonna start brainstorming rip off names for them.

Kecleon doesn't get protean until gen 6 I'm pretty sure.