peachnkey Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Do you like shiny hunting? Have you ever gotten a shiny that looks absolutely awful? Have you ever gotten one that hardly changes at all and thought, man, I wish this looked at least a little different. Then look no further! I have aseprite, a dream, and a basic grasp of color theory! Introducing... Pichiki's Shiny Upgrades! My main goals for this project are as follows... 1.) Improve shinies that are lacking for aesthetic purposes 2.) Allow pokemon that would not be evolved previously due to ugly final evos (eg. dragonite, garchomp, gengar) a chance for final evolution 3.) Take common shinies that are often phases in many players shunts (solrock, lunatone, etc.) and make them something truly special 4.) Create multiple different mod packs. Specifically, for those who dislike greenies and those who like greenies 5.) Take suggestions from other PokeMMO players 6.) Choose colors that seem believable. Something that looks cool while retaining the original idea gamefreak's designers had in mind whenever possible. 7.) Change the in game battle sprites along with the follower sprites for each pokemon changed. 8.) Create sprites of the highest quality. These sprites are not the full roster and are representative of the final product. As is usual for a single person creating a modpack for a game, there are some hurdles I've run into. Luckily, they're rather small ones that simply require asking my questions to the right folks. That's the main reason I'm making this post in the first place. This post will also act as a log of what shinies I'm working on and what my progress is, while also functioning as a place for people to suggest shinies to work on! If you have a suggestion, feel free to make it! Current list of shinies to change... Quote X are being changed for sure in the main pack, lowercase x are ones I'm going to ask and see how many people like them. G is for greenies I will change, lowercase g are for greenies I think are good personally though again I will ask. 001 Bulbasaur 002 Ivysaur 003 Venusaur 004 Charmander 005 Charmeleon 006 Charizard 007 Squirtle 008 Wartortle 009 Blastoise 010 Caterpie 011 Metapod 012 Butterfree 013 Weedle 014 Kakuna 015 Beedrill 016 Pidgey-----X 017 Pidgeotto-----X 018 Pidgeot-----X 019 Rattata 020 Raticate 021 Spearow 022 Fearow 023 Ekans-----G 024 Arbok 025 Pikachu-----X 026 Raichu-----X 027 Sandshrew-----G 028 Sandslash 029 Nidoran♀ 030 Nidorina 031 Nidoqueen-----X 032 Nidoran♂ 033 Nidorino 034 Nidoking 035 Clefairy-----X 036 Clefable-----X 037 Vulpix 038 Ninetales 039 Jigglypuff 040 Wigglytuff 041 Zubat-----G 042 Golbat-----G 043 Oddish-----G 044 Gloom-----G 045 Vileplume-----G 046 Paras-----X 047 Parasect-----X 048 Venonat 049 Venomoth 050 Diglett 051 Dugtrio 052 Meowth 053 Persian-----X 054 Psyduck 055 Golduck-----X 056 Mankey-----G 057 Primeape-----G 058 Growlithe 059 Arcanine 060 Poliwag 061 Poliwhirl 062 Poliwrath-----G 063 Abra-----X 064 Kadabra-----X 065 Alakazam 066 Machop 067 Machoke 068 Machamp 069 Bellsprout 070 Weepinbell 071 Victreebel 072 Tentacool 073 Tentacruel 074 Geodude 075 Graveler-----X 076 Golem-----X 077 Ponyta 078 Rapidash-----X 079 Slowpoke 080 Slowbro 081 Magnemite 082 Magneton 083 Farfetch'd 084 Doduo-----G 085 Dodrio-----G 086 Seel 087 Dewgong 088 Grimer 089 Muk 090 Shellder 091 Cloyster 092 Gastly 093 Haunter 094 Gengar-----X 095 Onix-----G 096 Drowzee 097 Hypno 098 Krabby 099 Kingler-----G 100 Voltorb 101 Electrode 102 Exeggcute 103 Exeggutor 104 Cubone-----G 105 Marowak-----G 106 Hitmonlee-----G 107 Hitmonchan-----G 108 Lickitung 109 Koffing 110 Weezing 111 Rhyhorn-----X 112 Rhydon-----X 113 Chansey-----G 114 Tangela 115 Kangaskhan-----G 116 Horsea 117 Seadra 118 Goldeen-----X 119 Seaking-----X 120 Staryu 121 Starmie 122 Mr. Mime-----G 123 Scyther-----G 124 Jynx 125 Electabuzz 126 Magmar 127 Pinsir 128 Tauros-----G 129 Magikarp 130 Gyarados 131 Lapras 132 Ditto 133 Eevee 134 Vaporeon-----x 135 Jolteon-----X 136 Flareon-----X 137 Porygon 138 Omanyte 139 Omastar 140 Kabuto-----G 141 Kabutops-----G 142 Aerodactyl 143 Snorlax-----X 144 Articuno 145 Zapdos 146 Moltres 147 Dratini 148 Dragonair 149 Dragonite-----X 150 Mewtwo 151 Mew 152 Chikorita 153 Bayleef 154 Meganium 155 Cyndaquil 156 Quilava 157 Typhlosion 158 Totodile 159 Croconaw 160 Feraligatr 161 Sentret-----X 162 Furret 163 Hoothoot 164 Noctowl 165 Ledyba 166 Ledian 167 Spinarak 168 Ariados 169 Crobat 170 Chinchou 171 Lanturn 172 Pichu-----X 173 Cleffa-----X 174 Igglybuff 175 Togepi 176 Togetic 177 Natu-----X 178 Xatu-----X 179 Mareep 180 Flaaffy 181 Ampharos 182 Bellossom 183 Marill 184 Azumarill 185 Sudowoodo 186 Politoed 187 Hoppip 188 Skiploom 189 Jumpluff 190 Aipom 191 Sunkern-----X 192 Sunflora-----X 193 Yanma 194 Wooper 195 Quagsire 196 Espeon-----G 197 Umbreon-----X 198 Murkrow-----x 199 Slowking 200 Misdreavus-----G 201 Unown 202 Wobbuffet 203 Girafarig 204 Pineco 205 Forretress 206 Dunsparce 207 Gligar 208 Steelix 209 Snubbull 210 Granbull 211 Qwilfish 212 Scizor-----g 213 Shuckle 214 Heracross-----x 215 Sneasel 216 Teddiursa 217 Ursaring-----g 218 Slugma 219 Magcargo 220 Swinub-----g 221 Piloswine-----g 222 Corsola 223 Remoraid 224 Octillery 225 Delibird 226 Mantine-----X 227 Skarmory 228 Houndour 229 Houndoom 230 Kingdra 231 Phanpy-----X 232 Donphan 233 Porygon2 234 Stantler-----G 235 Smeargle 236 Tyrogue 237 Hitmontop 238 Smoochum 239 Elekid 240 Magby 241 Miltank 242 Blissey-----X 243 Raikou 244 Entei 245 Suicune 246 Larvitar-----X 247 Pupitar 248 Tyranitar 249 Lugia 250 Ho-oh 251 Celebi 252 Treecko 253 Grovyle 254 Sceptile 255 Torchic 256 Combusken 257 Blaziken 258 Mudkip 259 Marshtomp 260 Swampert 261 Poochyena 262 Mightyena 263 Zigzagoon 264 Linoone 265 Wurmple 266 Silcoon 267 Beautifly 268 Cascoon 269 Dustox 270 Lotad 271 Lombre 272 Ludicolo 273 Seedot 274 Nuzleaf 275 Shiftry 276 Taillow 277 Swellow-----g 278 Wingull-----X 279 Pelipper-----X 280 Ralts 281 Kirlia 282 Gardevoir 283 Surskit 284 Masquerain-----g 285 Shroomish 286 Breloom 287 Slakoth 288 Vigoroth 289 Slaking 290 Nincada-----X 291 Ninjask-----X 292 Shedinja-----X 293 Whismur 294 Loudred-----X 295 Exploud-----X 296 Makuhita 297 Hariyama 298 Azurill-----G 299 Nosepass 300 Skitty 301 Delcatty 302 Sableye 303 Mawile 304 Aron 305 Lairon 306 Aggron 307 Meditite 308 Medicham 309 Electrike 310 Manectric 311 Plusle-----X 312 Minun 313 Volbeat 314 Illumise 315 Roselia 316 Gulpin 317 Swalot 318 Carvanha-----g 319 Sharpedo-----x 320 Wailmer 321 Wailord 322 Numel 323 Camerupt 324 Torkoal 325 Spoink 326 Grumpig-----x 327 Spinda-----G 328 Trapinch 329 Vibrava 330 Flygon 331 Cacnea 332 Cacturne 333 Swablu 334 Altaria 335 Zangoose 336 Seviper 337 Lunatone-----X 338 Solrock-----X 339 Barboach 340 Whiscash-----x 341 Corphish-----X 342 Crawdaunt-----X 343 Baltoy 344 Claydol 345 Lileep-----x 346 Cradily-----x 347 Anorith-----x 348 Armaldo-----x 349 Feebas 350 Milotic 351 Castform 352 Kecleon-----X 353 Shuppet-----x 354 Banette-----x 355 Duskull 356 Dusclops 357 Tropius-----X 358 Chimecho-----G 359 Absol 360 Wynaut 361 Snorunt 362 Glalie 363 Spheal 364 Sealeo 365 Walrein 366 Clamperl 367 Huntail 368 Gorebyss 369 Relicanth 370 Luvdisc 371 Bagon-----G 372 Shelgon-----G 373 Salamence-----G 374 Beldum 375 Metang 376 Metagross 377 Regirock 378 Regice 379 Registeel 380 Latias 381 Latios 382 Kyogre 383 Groudon 384 Rayquaza 385 Jirachi 386 Deoxys 387 Turtwig 388 Grotle 389 Torterra-----X 390 Chimchar 391 Monferno 392 Infernape 393 Piplup-----x 394 Prinplup-----x 395 Empoleon-----x 396 Starly 397 Staravia 398 Staraptor 399 Bidoof-----x 400 Bibarel-----x 401 Kricketot 402 Kricketune 403 Shinx 404 Luxio 405 Luxray 406 Budew 407 Roserade 408 Cranidos 409 Rampardos 410 Shieldon-----x 411 Bastiodon-----x 412 Burmy-----X 413 Wormadam-----X 414 Mothim 415 Combee 416 Vespiquen 417 Pachirisu 418 Buizel-----x 419 Floatzel-----x 420 Cherubi 421 Cherrim-----x 422 Shellos-----X 423 Gastrodon-----X 424 Ambipom 425 Drifloon 426 Drifblim 427 Buneary 428 Lopunny 429 Mismagius-----X 430 Honchkrow 431 Glameow 432 Purugly 433 Chingling-----X 434 Stunky 435 Skuntank 436 Bronzor-----g 437 Bronzong-----g 438 Bonsly 439 Mime Jr.-----g 440 Happiny-----G 441 Chatot 442 Spiritomb 443 Gible 444 Gabite-----X 445 Garchomp-----X 446 Munchlax-----X 447 Riolu-----X 448 Lucario-----X 449 Hippopotas 450 Hippowdon 451 Skorupi 452 Drapion 453 Croagunk 454 Toxicroak 455 Carnivine 456 Finneon-----X 457 Lumineon-----X 458 Mantyke-----X 459 Snover 460 Abomasnow 461 Weavile 462 Magnezone 463 Lickilicky 464 Rhyperior-----X 465 Tangrowth 466 Electivire 467 Magmortar 468 Togekiss 469 Yanmega 470 Leafeon-----X 471 Glaceon-----X 472 Gliscor 473 Mamoswine-----G 474 Porygon-Z 475 Gallade 476 Probopass 477 Dusknoir-----X 478 Froslass 479 Rotom 480 Uxie 481 Mesprit 482 Azelf 483 Dialga 484 Palkia 485 Heatran 486 Regigigas 487 Giratina 488 Cresselia 489 Phione 490 Manaphy 491 Darkrai 492 Shaymin 493 Arceus 494 Victini 495 Snivy 496 Servine 497 Serperior 498 Tepig 499 Pignite 500 Emboar 501 Oshawott 502 Dewott 503 Samurott 504 Patrat 505 Watchog 506 Lillipup-----X 507 Herdier-----X 508 Stoutland-----X 509 Purrloin 510 Liepard 511 Pansage 512 Simisage 513 Pansear 514 Simisear 515 Panpour 516 Simipour 517 Munna-----G 518 Musharna 519 Pidove 520 Tranquill-----G 521 Unfezant-----X 522 Blitzle-----X 523 Zebstrika-----X 524 Roggenrola 525 Boldore 526 Gigalith 527 Woobat-----X 528 Swoobat-----X 529 Drilbur 530 Excadrill 531 Audino 532 Timburr-----X 533 Gurdurr-----X 534 Conkeldurr-----X 535 Tympole 536 Palpitoad 537 Seismitoad 538 Throh-----X 539 Sawk-----X 540 Sewaddle-----X 541 Swadloon-----X 542 Leavanny-----X 543 Venipede-----X 544 Whirlipede 545 Scolipede 546 Cottonee 547 Whimsicott 548 Petilil-----x 549 Lilligant-----x 550 Basculin-----X-----X 551 Sandile-----X 552 Krokorok-----X 553 Krookodile-----X 554 Darumaka 555 Darmanitan-----X 556 Maractus 557 Dwebble 558 Crustle 559 Scraggy-----X 560 Scrafty-----G 561 Sigilyph 562 Yamask 563 Cofagrigus 564 Tirtouga 565 Carracosta-----X 566 Archen 567 Archeops 568 Trubbish 569 Garbodor 570 Zorua 571 Zoroark 572 Minccino-----X 573 Cinccino-----X 574 Gothita-----X 575 Gothorita-----X 576 Gothitelle-----X 577 Solosis 578 Duosion 579 Reuniclus 580 Ducklett 581 Swanna 582 Vanillite 583 Vanillish 584 Vanilluxe 585 Deerling-----X-----X 586 Sawsbuck-----X-----X 587 Emolga-----X 588 Karrablast-----X 589 Escavalier-----X 590 Foongus 591 Amoonguss 592 Frillish 593 Jellicent 594 Alomomola 595 Joltik-----X 596 Galvantula 597 Ferroseed 598 Ferrothorn 599 Klink-----G 600 Klang-----G 601 Klinklang-----G 602 Tynamo 603 Eelektrik 604 Eelektross 605 Elgyem-----X 606 Beheeyem-----X 607 Litwick 608 Lampent-----X 609 Chandelure 610 Axew 611 Fraxure 612 Haxorus 613 Cubchoo 614 Beartic-----X 615 Cryogonal 616 Shelmet 617 Accelgor 618 Stunfisk 619 Mienfoo 620 Mienshao 621 Druddigon-----G 622 Golett 623 Golurk 624 Pawniard 625 Bisharp 626 Bouffalant-----x 627 Rufflet 628 Braviary 629 Vullaby 630 Mandibuzz-----X 631 Heatmor 632 Durant-----X 633 Deino-----g 634 Zweilous-----g 635 Hydreigon-----g 636 Larvesta 637 Volcarona 638 Cobalion 639 Terrakion 640 Virizion 641 Tornadus 642 Thundurus 643 Reshiram 644 Zekrom 645 Landorus 646 Kyurem 647 Keldeo 648 Meloetta 649 Genesect As for the questions I have, there are two and they are each rather complex. 1.) To gif or not to gif I am very well versed in puppet animation in my day job, and the b/w sprites seem to be just that. More importantly, when I first started this project, I simply downloaded the sprites i needed from PokemonDB's sprite database. Since b/w was on the DS, the pixel art seemed to get squished and compressed in a way that causes misplaced pixels. I learned a little too late that these pixel compressions were different on some sprite rips than they are others! I've since seen other, less bugged out sprites from different databases. PokeMMO doesn't seem to have this issue of compression at all! How is this the case? Is it that the b/w sprites aren't gifs or an equivalent of in the games code, and are animated in real time and that is being run through PokeMMO causing the lossless-ness? If that's the case, are the sprites for shinies using an entirely new texture file, or are they simply changing the pallet in the sprites code? If it's the latter, then I most likely will have to use gifs instead. Either way very complex stuff. I have also seen folks create sprite replacements for PokeMMO but each that I've seen are simply still-image replacements, are animated replacements possible? If I have to take the gif route, then I will most likely go through and clean up the sprites manually, and this takes a LOT of time. This Woobat sprite is manually edited, and thus took much longer than all the others, but you can clearly see the quality difference compared to the sprites above. 2.) Is there a guide for image replacement mods out there? I've never modded PokeMMO before, and while I have done small things for other games in the past, I wouldn't exactly say I'm a programmer. I won't sell myself short, I know my way around a computer enough to get whatever I need to get done handled and I am a fast learner, however I won't be able to do any of this without a guide or at least a little assistance. There are guides on GUI edits and the like, but not any that I've been able to find in the sprites department. Any assistance in the form of guidance or the sending of resources would be much appreciated ❤️ ! I'll most likely be editing this post as I go along and continue to search for things as well as work on more sprites. Thank you so much for reading! Edited April 28, 2023 by peachnkey updates melvzzy, xRdZiiiN, budadeth and 19 others 5 2 12 3 Link to comment
Jaddee Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Looks awesome! nice work 😄 peachnkey 1 Link to comment
LucasLyn5 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) This looks amazing! The original games construct the sprites with palettes and a sprite atlas with all the moving parts of said sprite. You will get the best quality by modifying the ROM that people import, which you would do by making a ROM patch and distributing that. This, however, is a stretch. Besides, working with narc files for the DS is a huge pain. The easiest way to mod any battle sprites would be to make a PokeMMO formatted mod with GIFs for each sprite. I'm not the biggest in regards to image editing, but if you keeo the amount of colors consistent between the original palette and your modified one, it should be possible simply import a palette with the corresponding spritesheet to override the colors, meaning you don't have to do any manual image editing at all. You simply have to construct the frames into a GIF. If that made any sense and you understood it xd. My best guess would be to download either the finished GIFs from a site like Pokencyclopedia with a Chrome plugin to bulk download all GIF files on the page. Or download the individual frames for each sprite and make each one into a GIF from a place like the Spriters Resource (editor isn't letting me input a properly hyperlink here, if you shoot me a DM I'll send you the link). Each frame should be 96x96 px. In regards to actually implementing the mod; while in-game, go to Settings > Utilities >Dump Moddable Resources > Battle Sprites > Yes. This gives you a folder in the root of your PokeMMO directory; dump\resources\dump.zip. In this dump.zip, you have sprites\battlesprites. These are the files that get loaded when you launch with the mod active. Each one is numbered acording to their national dex order. After finishing a sprite, you will need to find the corresponding shiny sprite (denoted by -s in the name), and replace it with your GIF with the exact same filename, but with the GIF file extension instead. Modify the .txt files in the same folder accordingly, add an icon image to the root of the dump folder, and fill out the info.xml file. This is a super interesting mod and I wouldn't mind helping you with it if ever needed! Be it testing or when it comes to making it. Shoot me a mail here on the forums if you have any questions, need help or clarification on anything I said 😄 Edited April 28, 2023 by LucasLyn5 grammar xd peachnkey and budadeth 1 1 Link to comment
peachnkey Posted April 28, 2023 Author Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, LucasLyn5 said: This looks amazing! The original games construct the sprites with palettes and a sprite atlas with all the moving parts of said sprite. You will get the best quality by modifying the rom that people import, which you would do by making a rom patch and distributing that. This, however, is a stretch. The easiest way to mod any battle sprites woud be to make a PokeMMO formatted mod with GIFs for each sprite. I'm not the biggest in regards to image editing, but if you keeo the amount of colors consistent between the original palette and your modified one, it should be possible simply import a palette with the corresponding spritesheet to override the colors, meaning you don't have to do any manual image editing at all. If you understand what I mean. My best guess would be to download either the finished GIFs from a site like Pokencyclopedia with a Chrome plugin to bulk download all GIF files on the page. Or download the individual frames for each sprite and make each one into a GIF from a place like the Spriters Resource. Each frame should be 96x96 px. In regards to actually implementing the mod; while in-game, go to Settings > Utilities >Dump Moddable Resources > Battle Sprites > Yes. This gives you a folder in the root of your PokeMMO directory; dump\resources\dump.zip. In this dump.zip, you have sprites\battlesprites. These are the files that get loaded when you launch with the mod active. Each one is numbered acording to their nation dex order. After finishing a sprite, you will need to find the corresponding shiny sprite (denoted by -s in the name), and replace it with your GIF with the exact same filename, but with the GIF file extension. Modify the .txt files in the same folder accordingly, add a, icon image to the root of the dump folder, and fill out the info.xml file. This is a super intersting mod and I wouldn't mind helping you with it! Shoot me a mail here on the forums if you have any questions, need help or clarification on anything I said 😄 Thank you so much for all the advice! It's been so helpful ; W ; ❤️ I think first things first, I'll edit the sprites in the dumped folder and sort out which shines I want to change, since those pics will display in the pokedex anyways and it'll be a great way to get my bearings sorted. Then, I'll work on making clean sprites for each of them using the pokencyclopedia as a base (that was actually the site where I noticed the pixilation was different from pokemonDB's lmao XD) I've been using aseprite to edit the sprites, which has allowed me to use a palette and automatically swap the colors from the beginning! Very easy :D! Since I think making a patch for the rom would be overly complicated for both me and the people downloading, I'll most likely just go with gifs. I might have to manually clean up the pixels from the extracted sprites depending, though I'll do some testing and see how bad things look and if it's even needed. Thanks so much again ❤️ I'll be sure to message you if i run into any hiccups, though I'll do as much as I can myself >:D! LucasLyn5 1 Link to comment
LucasLyn5 Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, peachnkey said: Thank you so much for all the advice! It's been so helpful ; W ; ❤️ I think first things first, I'll edit the sprites in the dumped folder and sort out which shines I want to change, since those pics will display in the pokedex anyways and it'll be a great way to get my bearings sorted. Then, I'll work on making clean sprites for each of them using the pokencyclopedia as a base (that was actually the site where I noticed the pixilation was different from pokemonDB's lmao XD) I've been using aseprite to edit the sprites, which has allowed me to use a palette and automatically swap the colors from the beginning! Very easy :D! Since I think making a patch for the rom would be overly complicated for both me and the people downloading, I'll most likely just go with gifs. I might have to manually clean up the pixels from the extracted sprites depending, though I'll do some testing and see how bad things look and if it's even needed. Thanks so much again ❤️ I'll be sure to message you if i run into any hiccups, though I'll do as much as I can myself >:D! No problem! Happy to help 😄 Something I forgot to mention; PokeMMO upscales the sprites 3x or 4x before rendering them. Which is what modifying the .txt files are for. This is also another reason to use GIFs, as scaling is only supported for GIFs. Also; the different pixilation might be be because of compression on either of the websites. I know for a fact that the original DS sprites are 96x96, and most GIFs on Pokencyclopedia seems to only have dimensions that are "relevant" but close to 96x96, which seems to me to indicate that they were in fact in the original 96x96 dimensions. I think the Pokencyclopedia GIFs should be the best quality ones, but I could be wrong. Suggestion; Mismagius-line :3 I really like its original colors, but I'm a little underwhelmed by its shiny. I once saw a white shiny for it, which looked amazing. Good luck with everything! 😄 Edited April 29, 2023 by LucasLyn5 peachnkey 1 Link to comment
budadeth Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 hours ago, LucasLyn5 said: This looks amazing! The original games construct the sprites with palettes and a sprite atlas with all the moving parts of said sprite. You will get the best quality by modifying the ROM that people import, which you would do by making a ROM patch and distributing that. This, however, is a stretch. Besides, working with narc files for the DS is a huge pain. The easiest way to mod any battle sprites would be to make a PokeMMO formatted mod with GIFs for each sprite. I'm not the biggest in regards to image editing, but if you keeo the amount of colors consistent between the original palette and your modified one, it should be possible simply import a palette with the corresponding spritesheet to override the colors, meaning you don't have to do any manual image editing at all. You simply have to construct the frames into a GIF. If that made any sense and you understood it xd. My best guess would be to download either the finished GIFs from a site like Pokencyclopedia with a Chrome plugin to bulk download all GIF files on the page. Or download the individual frames for each sprite and make each one into a GIF from a place like the Spriters Resource (editor isn't letting me input a properly hyperlink here, if you shoot me a DM I'll send you the link). Each frame should be 96x96 px. In regards to actually implementing the mod; while in-game, go to Settings > Utilities >Dump Moddable Resources > Battle Sprites > Yes. This gives you a folder in the root of your PokeMMO directory; dump\resources\dump.zip. In this dump.zip, you have sprites\battlesprites. These are the files that get loaded when you launch with the mod active. Each one is numbered acording to their national dex order. After finishing a sprite, you will need to find the corresponding shiny sprite (denoted by -s in the name), and replace it with your GIF with the exact same filename, but with the GIF file extension instead. Modify the .txt files in the same folder accordingly, add an icon image to the root of the dump folder, and fill out the info.xml file. This is a super interesting mod and I wouldn't mind helping you with it if ever needed! Be it testing or when it comes to making it. Shoot me a mail here on the forums if you have any questions, need help or clarification on anything I said 😄 This Also you have to add a file info.xml into the mod to make it work, you can take it from mod folder with the "example mod" to use like an example of the info.xml also you can add an icon to the mod Aswell as that mod you can check some of the sprites mod here to learn and have an example of what you gonna need to name the gifs and all that just like the comment above said, good luck if having problems dont mind to quote me, I ll try help, good luck peachnkey 1 Link to comment
budadeth Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 On 4/28/2023 at 6:10 PM, peachnkey said: Do you like shiny hunting? Have you ever gotten a shiny that looks absolutely awful? Have you ever gotten one that hardly changes at all and thought, man, I wish this looked at least a little different. Then look no further! I have aseprite, a dream, and a basic grasp of color theory! Introducing... Pichiki's Shiny Upgrades! My main goals for this project are as follows... 1.) Improve shinies that are lacking for aesthetic purposes 2.) Allow pokemon that would not be evolved previously due to ugly final evos (eg. dragonite, garchomp, gengar) a chance for final evolution 3.) Take common shinies that are often phases in many players shunts (solrock, lunatone, etc.) and make them something truly special 4.) Create multiple different mod packs. Specifically, for those who dislike greenies and those who like greenies 5.) Take suggestions from other PokeMMO players 6.) Choose colors that seem believable. Something that looks cool while retaining the original idea gamefreak's designers had in mind whenever possible. 7.) Change the in game battle sprites along with the follower sprites for each pokemon changed. 8.) Create sprites of the highest quality. These sprites are not the full roster and are representative of the final product. As is usual for a single person creating a modpack for a game, there are some hurdles I've run into. Luckily, they're rather small ones that simply require asking my questions to the right folks. That's the main reason I'm making this post in the first place. This post will also act as a log of what shinies I'm working on and what my progress is, while also functioning as a place for people to suggest shinies to work on! If you have a suggestion, feel free to make it! Current list of shinies to change... As for the questions I have, there are two and they are each rather complex. 1.) To gif or not to gif I am very well versed in puppet animation in my day job, and the b/w sprites seem to be just that. More importantly, when I first started this project, I simply downloaded the sprites i needed from PokemonDB's sprite database. Since b/w was on the DS, the pixel art seemed to get squished and compressed in a way that causes misplaced pixels. I learned a little too late that these pixel compressions were different on some sprite rips than they are others! I've since seen other, less bugged out sprites from different databases. PokeMMO doesn't seem to have this issue of compression at all! How is this the case? Is it that the b/w sprites aren't gifs or an equivalent of in the games code, and are animated in real time and that is being run through PokeMMO causing the lossless-ness? If that's the case, are the sprites for shinies using an entirely new texture file, or are they simply changing the pallet in the sprites code? If it's the latter, then I most likely will have to use gifs instead. Either way very complex stuff. I have also seen folks create sprite replacements for PokeMMO but each that I've seen are simply still-image replacements, are animated replacements possible? If I have to take the gif route, then I will most likely go through and clean up the sprites manually, and this takes a LOT of time. This Woobat sprite is manually edited, and thus took much longer than all the others, but you can clearly see the quality difference compared to the sprites above. 2.) Is there a guide for image replacement mods out there? I've never modded PokeMMO before, and while I have done small things for other games in the past, I wouldn't exactly say I'm a programmer. I won't sell myself short, I know my way around a computer enough to get whatever I need to get done handled and I am a fast learner, however I won't be able to do any of this without a guide or at least a little assistance. There are guides on GUI edits and the like, but not any that I've been able to find in the sprites department. Any assistance in the form of guidance or the sending of resources would be much appreciated ❤️ ! I'll most likely be editing this post as I go along and continue to search for things as well as work on more sprites. Thank you so much for reading! I really love that Parasect color! Sadly I dont have it shiny lol peachnkey 1 Link to comment
peachnkey Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) Hey everyone! I completed the dex entry stills for the changed Kanto mons to get my color palettes sorted and also to get some feedback :D! If there are any shinies here you like, or shinies here you do NOT like please PLEASE let me know ❤️ I wanna make sure these are shinies that can be enjoyed by as many folks as possible. Any greenies marked in the list of mons to change in the above that haven't been changed below are greenies I've decided honestly look just fine as greenies (mainly, the oddish and machop lines as I feel they make sense) however, if any of you guys have good ideas for colors they can be changed to, or simply have a large disdain for them again lemme know. I based the pidgey line off of this awesome idea by DA user NexusPieXIII btw :D! The rattata and cubone lines along with raichu are based on their alola variants, the clefairy line are based on their beta shiny colors (we were ROBBED I tell you! ROBBED!!!), and kabuto's is based on genesect! Some shinies I tried to retain what looks so good about their prevos, keeping the purples in nidoqueen and making boldore and golurk feel like gold again. Gengar, snorlax, and rapidash get obvious changes, and dragonite gets one simple little change that makes it SO much cleaner in my eyes. It helps it look like a traditional dragon like they were clearly going for in the original, but COOLER >:D maleficent vibes! My favorite has to be rhydon and rhyperior in which I retained the copper vibe of rhyhorn and simply continued the theming forward, having the copper oxidize with rhyperior! OH! And I made doduo look like a little chick and dodrio a chicken, because I could >:D There are some shinies here I'm not so confident on my choices for. Pikachu and pichu I based on the pikablu mythos but some might find the change too minimal. Seel and dewgong make sense, but something about it feels off. I couldn't really find anything great for tauros, but I KNOW theres this one guy who caught a shiny safari tauros and he DESERVES something better than that eyebleeding lime. Mr.mime was one I was stuck on for a while until I found this lovely 90's feeling palette, but I KNOW that logically black and white would work better. Do let me know your thoughts on these! I am not simply requesting constructive criticism, I am DEMANDING it >:D! Edited May 3, 2023 by peachnkey Sycli, Amyllia, PinkWings and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
peachnkey Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, hibari123 said: where can i download it I haven't finished the mod yet, this is simply the thread where I post the work in progress! 22 hours ago, budadeth said: I really love that Parasect color! Sadly I dont have it shiny lol >:D! mwah ha ha my evil plan is working! I'm really hoping to make some shinies people would be interested in hunting for! Also, thank you ❤️ ! budadeth 1 Link to comment
LucasLyn5 Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, peachnkey said: Hey everyone! I completed the dex entry stills for the changed Kanto mons to get my color palettes sorted and also to get some feedback :D! If there are any shinies here you like, or shinies here you do NOT like please PLEASE let me know ❤️ I wanna make sure these are shinies that can be enjoyed by as many folks as possible. Any greenies marked in the list of mons to change in the above that haven't been changed below are greenies I've decided honestly look just fine as greenies (mainly, the oddish and machop lines as I feel they make sense) however, if any of you guys have good ideas for colors they can be changed to, or simply have a large disdain for them again lemme know. I based the pidgey line off of this awesome idea by DA user NexusPieXIII btw :D! The rattata and cubone lines along with raichu are based on their alola variants, the clefairy line are based on their beta shiny colors (we were ROBBED I tell you! ROBBED!!!), and kabuto's is based on genesect! Some shinies I tried to retain what looks so good about their prevos, keeping the purples in nidoqueen and making boldore and golurk feel like gold again. Gengar, snorlax, and rapidash get obvious changes, and dragonite gets one simple little change that makes it SO much cleaner in my eyes. It helps it look like a traditional dragon like they were clearly going for in the original, but COOLER >:D maleficent vibes! My favorite has to be rhydon and rhyperior in which I retained the copper vibe of rhyhorn and simply continued the theming forward, having the copper oxidize with rhyperior! OH! And I made doduo look like a little chick and dodrio a chicken, because I could >:D There are some shinies here I'm not so confident on my choices for. Pikachu and pichu I based on the pikablu mythos but some might find the change too minimal. Seel and dewgong make sense, but something about it feels off. I couldn't really find anything great for tauros, but I KNOW theres this one guy who caught a shiny safari tauros and he DESERVES something better than that eyebleeding lime. Mr.mime was one I was stuck on for a while until I found this lovely 90's feeling palette, but I KNOW that logically black and white would work better. Do let me know your thoughts on these! I am not simply requesting constructive criticism, I am DEMANDING it >:D! Not really big on the color theory part of things, and whatnot, so I can't really critique that, but I like all of them! Big fan of Raticate-line, Marowak, Clefable-line, Gengar, Kabutops-line, Snorlax, and Dragonite. We were indeed robbed of that Clefable shiny 💀 Looking forward to seeing the rest you make! Keep up the great work 😄 peachnkey 1 Link to comment
budadeth Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, peachnkey said: Hey everyone! I completed the dex entry stills for the changed Kanto mons to get my color palettes sorted and also to get some feedback :D! If there are any shinies here you like, or shinies here you do NOT like please PLEASE let me know ❤️ I wanna make sure these are shinies that can be enjoyed by as many folks as possible. Any greenies marked in the list of mons to change in the above that haven't been changed below are greenies I've decided honestly look just fine as greenies (mainly, the oddish and machop lines as I feel they make sense) however, if any of you guys have good ideas for colors they can be changed to, or simply have a large disdain for them again lemme know. I based the pidgey line off of this awesome idea by DA user NexusPieXIII btw :D! The rattata and cubone lines along with raichu are based on their alola variants, the clefairy line are based on their beta shiny colors (we were ROBBED I tell you! ROBBED!!!), and kabuto's is based on genesect! Some shinies I tried to retain what looks so good about their prevos, keeping the purples in nidoqueen and making boldore and golurk feel like gold again. Gengar, snorlax, and rapidash get obvious changes, and dragonite gets one simple little change that makes it SO much cleaner in my eyes. It helps it look like a traditional dragon like they were clearly going for in the original, but COOLER >:D maleficent vibes! My favorite has to be rhydon and rhyperior in which I retained the copper vibe of rhyhorn and simply continued the theming forward, having the copper oxidize with rhyperior! OH! And I made doduo look like a little chick and dodrio a chicken, because I could >:D There are some shinies here I'm not so confident on my choices for. Pikachu and pichu I based on the pikablu mythos but some might find the change too minimal. Seel and dewgong make sense, but something about it feels off. I couldn't really find anything great for tauros, but I KNOW theres this one guy who caught a shiny safari tauros and he DESERVES something better than that eyebleeding lime. Mr.mime was one I was stuck on for a while until I found this lovely 90's feeling palette, but I KNOW that logically black and white would work better. Do let me know your thoughts on these! I am not simply requesting constructive criticism, I am DEMANDING it >:D! This is awesome! peachnkey 1 Link to comment
thatguymaxwell Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 i love this sm cuz I had the same exact idea but had no idea how to properly execute it without going insane. But seeing this makes me happy that some1 smarter than me can do this. Anyways here's some still and animated sprites I made when I thought of this idea like last year that'd be cool if added. The Garchomp one is the only one I properly animated and got to work in the game but its still pretty rough. I'd love to help with more ideas as well. Based on the cat from Sailor Moon Obviously based off of Mega Gengar Based off of and continuing the pink color from the Dratini and Dragonair peachnkey and xRdZiiiN 2 Link to comment
thatguymaxwell Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I made this Scizor one as well based off of the actual good shiny from Pokemon Colosseum and it looks somewhat good Female Male The wings are significantly slower and honestly weirder for shiny male scizor as for some reason it has like half the frames of the female shiny and the normal scizors male and female. Idk if it's like that in the game defaultly also because theres no male shiny Scizors in gtl. peachnkey 1 Link to comment
ParadiseF Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 looks pretty nice, look foward for it peachnkey 1 Link to comment
guidelrey Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I cant wait for this mod to be done, is it done already? peachnkey 1 Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 SO cool, cant wait for it to be done Link to comment
peachnkey Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 11:56 PM, thatguymaxwell said: I made this Scizor one as well based off of the actual good shiny from Pokemon Colosseum and it looks somewhat good Female Male The wings are significantly slower and honestly weirder for shiny male scizor as for some reason it has like half the frames of the female shiny and the normal scizors male and female. Idk if it's like that in the game defaultly also because theres no male shiny Scizors in gtl. On 6/16/2023 at 6:26 PM, thatguymaxwell said: i love this sm cuz I had the same exact idea but had no idea how to properly execute it without going insane. But seeing this makes me happy that some1 smarter than me can do this. Anyways here's some still and animated sprites I made when I thought of this idea like last year that'd be cool if added. The Garchomp one is the only one I properly animated and got to work in the game but its still pretty rough. I'd love to help with more ideas as well. Based on the cat from Sailor Moon Obviously based off of Mega Gengar Based off of and continuing the pink color from the Dratini and Dragonair Hell yea hell yea >:D These look awesome! Link to comment
peachnkey Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) Alrighty! I'm back after my long hiatus because of work, expect progress of this to be rather slow with short bursts of activity like this. Just know that no matter how long the break I'm gonna stick with it >:D! It's a relatively simple project, with time being the hardest factor. Anyhoo-- I finished all of the still-image color tests! 50 billion posts in a row are incoming since I want it to be easier for people to comment on what shinies they think need further editing, if you have any opinions on them at all please, please let me know ❤️ I don't want them to look cool just to my tastes, but to as many peoples tastes as possible. I also learned a valuable lesson as I was working on these: Green shinies are not bad because they are green, they are bad because they are an EYE-BLEEDING shade of green. If a shiny was green, I tried to keep it so if it made sense for the pokemon. Sometimes, it made more sense for a shiny to be green than any other color. Some of the greens I have chosen I think are perfect, while others I think need work and still look off. If you think my greens are still an eyesore however, do let me know! Here's the Johto mons and the start of the Hoenn mons. The official shiny is on the left while my edit is on the right for each, and as I've done before I'll explain my thought process behind my choices here. With Lanturn I tried to capture the magic that made Chinchou look so great, it will look either kinda purply blue or REALLY blue depending on your monitor, though. Sunkern and Sunflora I made into an autumn variant. Nuzleaf and Shiftry also got autumn'd. Murkrow and Honchkrow (which i forgot to add next to Murkrow it'll be shown later) I tried to keep the original concept of "pink and purple crow" in tact, leaning into the dark type and witchy vibes by making them more purple. Misdreavus was an ugly green, though I get they were going with a slimer-ghosty type of vibe I just said screw that and made it a ghostly blue and purple. Scizor I made a less eye-bleeding green. I did the same to both Heracross and Ursaring, making Ursaring match Teddiursa more. Phanpy got the pink treatment both to make it cuter and to help it match it's Coppery evolution. Houndour and Houndoom were both eye-bleeding AND had some weird issues with them that technically probably couldn't be done on cartridge but this is a mod changing image files, I can do what Gamefreak actually intended. Masquerain had a case of the ugly-greens and so I made it not that, and more blue. Stantler became Wyrdeer, Larvitar matches Tyranitar, Blissey/Happiny match Chansey and Piloswine/Mamoswine match Swinub. With Mantine, Mantyke, Elekid, Combusken, and Smoochum I simply pushed what made the shinies different from their original counterparts to help them look a little more different. Again and as always, do let me know your thoughts! EDIT: I forgot to mention, shiny Espeon! I based the colors off of tumblr user the-chibster's take linked below. I know some people like the green alien vibe, it reminds me of the Alien Aisha from Neopets actually hehe, but I just think this works more overall. Maybe i'll make an alternate mod to make it look like this lovely art by aerithcat linked below. https://the-chibster.tumblr.com/post/170211841888/shiny-espeon-please-god-that-one-hurts-me-so https://www.deviantart.com/aerithcat/art/shiny-espeon-973751353 Edited August 23, 2023 by peachnkey links didn't work hehe Amyllia 1 Link to comment
peachnkey Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 Round two! Hoenn and the beginning of Sinnoh. Pelipper and Wingull didn't make sense to be green to me, so I did a classic blue to red. I also did a red to blue with Corphish and Crawdaunt. I exaggerated what differences were already there with Shedinja (to look more gold), Banette, Minun, Solrock/Lunatone, and the Piplup line. All the Piplup line really needed was a different beak although I thought a black Empoleon would look cool so I did that. Chimecho had a case of the ugly-green, so I simply incorporated the green in a way that made more sense with it and Chingling. The Salamance line had this same issue, though I'm still not fully satisfied with it. Do let me know if you also think it doesn't look right, and I'll keep chewing on it. Tropius and the Turtwig line also had a massive case of the ugly green, so I autumn'd Tropius and sakura'd Turtwig. Grotle still looks off to me, but I'm unsure what to do about it (and it's Grotle, anyway XD so whatever) Loudred and Exploud I made more green to match what made Whismur so sucessful, and I made Grumpig match what made Spoink successful as well. Carvanha and Sharpedo are an interesting case, something about Carvanha just felt off, so I switched the yellow and blue around and it just feels so much more right to me. I made Sharpedo to match, and dulled the purple a tad. OH! And OBVIOUSLY Shiny Keckleon looks like the Mystery Dungeon Keckleon. Obviously. Easiest one of these by far. xRdZiiiN and Amyllia 2 Link to comment
peachnkey Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 The end of Sinnoh, beginning of Unova! Let's address the Phanpy in the room first and foremost, I am NOT satisfied with the Lillipup line. I think I'm on the right track-- I tried to make it white and blue to match real life malteses and how scottie dogs kinda look blue IRL-- but it feels too monochrome. If y'all think its nice looking I'll keep it, but if you agree with me and also find it off putting I'll keep working on it. I pushed what made the colors different further with Bidoof, Bibarel, Froslass and the funny monkeys. I already talked about Misdreavus and Honcrow in the first update. I kinda went ham on the Shellos line though I think West-Sea looks a little off still. Roserade, Cherrim, Gabite, and Dusknoir I made more consistent with their pre-evolutions. Cherrim also gets to be a white sakura blossom (which is a thing IRL) Burmy was a TRAVESTY so I made it white. Lucario was also a travesty, so I made it gold instead of piss-yellow. I also darkened the masks, though I might lighten them a tad. Garchomp was obvious so I did the obvious. Munchlax was also obvious with a blue to red, same with Sawk and Throh. That's about it for this one :D! xRdZiiiN and Amyllia 2 Link to comment
peachnkey Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 I did a LOT of them in Unova, but Unova's original shinies overall were actually my favorite. They were either hit or miss, and I simply made most pokemon who evolved from pretty shinies retain their prettiness, or exaggerated what made them nice in the first place. The Pidove line I made purply-blue to match Pidove, the Sewaddle line matches the cool green of Sewaddle now. Venipede matches Scolipede, Petlil matches Lilligant, Cinccino matches Minccino, The Krocks match Sandile, Carracosta matches Tirtouga, Garbordor matches Trubbish, Zoruark matches Zorua. Easy-peasy shinies! I do think Zoruark still could look cooler, but I don't know how to make it as cool as Zorua to be frank. Blitzel, Zebstrika, Audino, Sigilyph, the Timburr line, the Darmanitan line, and the Archen line all get slightly exaggerated so the changes are more noticeable. Basculin gets blue'd and the other Basculin will be red'd. Oh! And Swoobat and Woobat! Those shinies are actually not just color swapped, I had to do some trickery with the pixels to make the white wings work and while again that cannot be done on official hardware (probably) I do not CARE!!! LOOK AT IT!!! PINK AND BLUE :D!!!!! Sunthentic 1 Link to comment
peachnkey Posted August 23, 2023 Author Share Posted August 23, 2023 Final round! The rest of the Unova dex along with some stragglers I forgot to put in the image along the way, haha, oops. The Gothorita line is honestly the one I'm most proud of. I simply exaggerated what made Gothitelle look kinda okay and then made the rest match and now it's very very nice in my opinion :D! I did the same with Deerling and Sawsbuck. It seemed like they tried to make their shinies brighter than the originals, but didn't pushed it far enough, so I made Deerling white and Sawsbuck a light gray. Swanna and Ducklett both get exaggerated. I tried to make Swanna look like Odile, the black swan, and made Ducklett's colors a little cooler. I also pushed the pink and purple rocker vibe more with the Vullaby line. Emolga, the Joltik line, and the Beartic line also get simple exaggerations. Excavelier gets it's colors from shiny Shelmet's armor and I think it looks much cleaner. Ferroseed was RIDICULOUS so I made it match Ferrothorn like HOW did they mess that up lmao? Druddigon got their red and blue swapped. Durant got blue eyes instead of green. Tynamo got it's electric line changed from yellow to black. Bouffalant became darker and more purple. Let's talk about the greenies now! I'm actually rather proud of them here. First, the Deino line. I understood the concept they were going for but the originals dropped the ball. The warm green and grey with the cool purple did NOT match, so I simply kept the cool purple and made the green and gray cooler to match and like magic it actually looks GOOD now! Again folks, they aren't bad because they're green, they're bad because they're an UGLY green. Scrafty also gets that treatment with the red to blue and the cooler green to match, I also made it's shed skin the same yellow as Scraggy's. Elgyem and Beheeyem were also clearly going for a gray alien and private investigator vibe, so I instead made them little green men and the men in black respectively. Tauros becomes Paldean Tauros (as that didn't exist when I first started this project, how wild!). Finneon and Lumineon get pinked! Shiny Glaceon becomes paler and shiny Leafeon gets rightfully autumn'd as god intended. Spinda's greens are made less ugly, and Natu gets red to blue'd. And... and that's it. I think I did them all! Do let me know if there are any shinies I missed, any that you would like to see changed that are simply far too boring to be exciting to find and hunt. I want to hopefully make more hunts viable, and make common phase pokemon actually nice to look at, so if I missed one you think I should work on comment on this thread. Thanks so much for stickin' with me :D! I'll wait a good while for some feedback then get into the nitty gritty of actually making the gifs. Amyllia 1 Link to comment
Amyllia Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) really amazing work as always peach! :3 love hearing about how and why you recolor the shinies the way you do, it's really cool to hear ^-^ honestly your recolored shinies are so amazing!! they would make me even more motivated to shiny hunt for them x3 can't wait until it releases! ❤️ Edited August 23, 2023 by Amyllia peachnkey 1 Link to comment
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