BabyWizardZz Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 I Think what a previous comment mentioned before referring to Storm absorb Cradily, Its from rustboro gym. I was following this Gide as It said and I got wipped by that cradily. On 3/8/2024 at 5:04 AM, XanarchyNL said: what gym are you worried about? Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 (edited) 51 minutes ago, BabyWizardZz said: I Think what a previous comment mentioned before referring to Storm absorb Cradily, Its from rustboro gym. I was following this Gide as It said and I got wipped by that cradily. 5: Rustboro Rock HEAL Weezing + Hydreigon Surf into Typhlosion + Blastoise R vs. Archeops/Steelix/Probopass Blastoise R + Blastoise W vs. Cradily/Relicanth From what I can understand you lost one of 2 variations: Variation 1: Meaning after your lead you bring in: Typhlosion + Blastoise R vs. Archeops/Steelix/Probopass Typhlosion with specs is 1. faster than Blastoise and 2. OHKO's that cradily: Calc imports if you'd like to do the calc yourself: Spoiler Cradily @ Leftovers Level: 80 Relaxed Nature Ability: Storm Drain EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe IVs: 25 HP / 25 Atk / 25 Def / 25 SpA / 25 SpD / 25 Spe - Rock Slide - Seed Bomb - Curse - Recover Typhlosion @ Choice Specs Level: 100 Modest Nature Ability: Blaze EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SpA - Eruption - Swift - Cut - Helping Hand Or you lost to: Which dies to the explosion surf lead that the guide outlines. Weezing damage after a min roll surf Calc imports if you'd like to do them yourself Spoiler Weezing @ Choice Band Level: 100 Adamant Nature Ability: Reactive Gas EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe - Incinerate - Assurance - Explosion - Sunny Day Hydreigon @ Choice Specs Level: 100 Modest Nature Ability: Levitate EVs: 40 Atk / 212 SpA / 252 Spe IVs: 14 HP / 14 Def - Surf - Tailwind - Sunny Day - Rain Dance Cradily @ Leftovers Level: 80 Relaxed Nature Ability: Sticky Hold (Has storm drain but gets cancelled out by reactive gas, so stick hold has placeholder) EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe IVs: 25 HP / 25 Atk / 25 Def / 25 SpA / 25 SpD / 25 Spe - Giga Drain - Recover - Toxic - Stockpile Make sure you follow the item swaps as the guide outlines as not having Choice Specs on Typhlosion or Hydreigon or Choice Band or Reactive Gas on weezing will cause the strategy to fail Edited March 19 by XanarchyNL BabyWizardZz 1 Link to comment
BabyWizardZz Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 14 minutes ago, XanarchyNL said: 5: Rustboro Rock HEAL Weezing + Hydreigon Surf into Typhlosion + Blastoise R vs. Archeops/Steelix/Probopass Blastoise R + Blastoise W vs. Cradily/Relicanth From what I can understand you lost one of 2 variations: Variation 1: Meaning after your lead you bring in: Typhlosion + Blastoise R vs. Archeops/Steelix/Probopass Typhlosion with specs is 1. faster than Blastoise and 2. OHKO's that cradily: Calc imports if you'd like to do the calc yourself: Reveal hidden contents Cradily @ Leftovers Level: 80 Relaxed Nature Ability: Storm Drain EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe IVs: 25 HP / 25 Atk / 25 Def / 25 SpA / 25 SpD / 25 Spe - Rock Slide - Seed Bomb - Curse - Recover Typhlosion @ Choice Specs Level: 100 Modest Nature Ability: Blaze EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe IVs: 30 Atk / 30 SpA - Eruption - Swift - Cut - Helping Hand Or you lost to: Which dies to the explosion surf lead that the guide outlines. Weezing damage after a min roll surf Calc imports if you'd like to do them yourself Hide contents Weezing @ Choice Band Level: 100 Adamant Nature Ability: Reactive Gas EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe - Incinerate - Assurance - Explosion - Sunny Day Hydreigon @ Choice Specs Level: 100 Modest Nature Ability: Levitate EVs: 40 Atk / 212 SpA / 252 Spe IVs: 14 HP / 14 Def - Surf - Tailwind - Sunny Day - Rain Dance Cradily @ Leftovers Level: 80 Relaxed Nature Ability: Sticky Hold (Has storm drain but gets cancelled out by reactive gas, so stick hold has placeholder) EVs: 85 HP / 85 Atk / 85 Def / 85 SpA / 85 SpD / 85 Spe IVs: 25 HP / 25 Atk / 25 Def / 25 SpA / 25 SpD / 25 Spe - Giga Drain - Recover - Toxic - Stockpile Make sure you follow the item swaps as the guide outlines as not having Choice Specs on Typhlosion or Hydreigon or Choice Band on weezing will cause the strategy to fail Im so sorry, It was my first run, I didn't messed up the items swap but I just realized I had to hability pill my weezing. It was completely my mistake, Im so sorry, I still have a lot to learn. Thank you for your super detailed answer also. Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, BabyWizardZz said: Im so sorry, It was my first run, I didn't messed up the items swap but I just realized I had to hability pill my weezing. It was completely my mistake, Im so sorry, I still have a lot to learn. Thank you for your super detailed answer also. Ah yes having reactive gas is a must for this strategy. Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 For those who use this guide and want to do e4 into gym run, here is the route I use https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTMqIAhdA68L3PqAGTsotVIdElOtLDceC4Asl9_Kspog2g8SK-tc17F8GEmBnWRhU6Q6192_S3BQeaX/pub 100% rate of getting 30 gyms, 31 on good runs Xratello 1 Link to comment
LEachy Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Legendary post. Thanks for this Xanarchy! Just wondering, would my 5x31 calm natured Togekiss work for this, or is the modest nature crucial for it to work? Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 3 hours ago, LEachy said: Legendary post. Thanks for this Xanarchy! Just wondering, would my 5x31 calm natured Togekiss work for this, or is the modest nature crucial for it to work? You're going to need modest I'm afraid. The 10% damage increase is pretty essential. Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted March 24 Author Share Posted March 24 (edited) I will be updating the route a little with some changes soon. Thanks to Hi_im_rainer and some self testing, I've got some optimisations. These should push this to 33/34 gyms consistently. I need some time to write it up though. Will be dropping a video guide on it as well SoonTM Edited March 24 by XanarchyNL Link to comment
LEachy Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 8 hours ago, XanarchyNL said: You're going to need modest I'm afraid. The 10% damage increase is pretty essential. That's fair, assumed as much so trained up a new one. Thanks man! Link to comment
demihuman Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 I encountered some problem when doing saffron gym. Typlo and Togekiss easily got one shot by Hitmonlee's high jump kick on the second turn. did i do something wrong or was it just pure RNG? FYI, Typlo was on full HP, but on the first turn, he got hit by snorlax. Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 13 hours ago, demihuman said: I encountered some problem when doing saffron gym. Typlo and Togekiss easily got one shot by Hitmonlee's high jump kick on the second turn. did i do something wrong or was it just pure RNG? FYI, Typlo was on full HP, but on the first turn, he got hit by snorlax. Saffron is one of the worst gyms in the game for this strategy where rng cases like this can occur. if you are willing to use 2 x items on 1/5 variations you can try this Link to comment
demihuman Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 On 4/7/2024 at 9:53 AM, XanarchyNL said: Saffron is one of the worst gyms in the game for this strategy where rng cases like this can occur. if you are willing to use 2 x items on 1/5 variations you can try this Yes, saffron is the worst. Thanks, I'll try the other variations for saffron. Talking about the worst gyms, I also encountered some problems when doing Driftveil City. i got both my bw and w1 to do sprout and assurance. But then, in the first turn, I got matched up with Seismitoad and Sableye. got completely wrecked as slabeye faked out my bw in the first turn and seismitoad damaging my weezing. In the second turn, my weezing died because of earth power. Have you got any variations for this? Link to comment
XanarchyNL Posted April 10 Author Share Posted April 10 On 4/9/2024 at 7:17 PM, demihuman said: Yes, saffron is the worst. Thanks, I'll try the other variations for saffron. Talking about the worst gyms, I also encountered some problems when doing Driftveil City. i got both my bw and w1 to do sprout and assurance. But then, in the first turn, I got matched up with Seismitoad and Sableye. got completely wrecked as slabeye faked out my bw in the first turn and seismitoad damaging my weezing. In the second turn, my weezing died because of earth power. Have you got any variations for this? They recently made a change to the way the AI works which significantly negatively impacts that particular variation, Currently searching for a good way to deal with it demihuman 1 Link to comment
Johnwaynee Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) I havent dont reruns for a couple of month. Basically Togekiss, Blastoise, Typhlo and Mamoswine was all i ever needed for Cynthia, Mr.X and all gyms for my 9 Rerun Character. Gotta take a look at it with the AI changes 16 hours ago, XanarchyNL said: They recently made a change to the way the AI Edited April 11 by Johnwaynee Link to comment
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