DoubleJ

Darn it Mu. I'll never regret work by Deejayejaye.

I'm always all about them surprises. It really gives the creator free reign to imagine me in their own light.

For a sig derp

I think it's time deejayejaye

Petition to rename: WT, Worst Tier

geez keith, i'm blocking you from getting a free morning sun on my predicted switch, but i guess now i'll just go straight into my dugtrio and wreck your day

lel, special defense drop oh shit

Forgot to add 2 years from now at the end of that last statement though

It's ok, I still love you M1

Zeeba you made it! Congrats boyos. If you didn't throw Vegeta to the curb I could congratulate both of ya'll in CiX

Yo craig congrats man! Maybe you'll settle down on making them discussion threads now and participate in the discussion itself whahahahaha. Get it homie

Tell TJ it's his =)

350k, rip your birthday gift

Metagross [Adamant] 26-27 / 29-30 / 24-25 / 31 / 22-23 / 18 - heh Psychic gross op 200k TJXD 250k

lf Team Tournament March Edition.

hahah that was cool

I like the approach Robofiend is taking and with a bit of refinement his idea could be quite beneficial in the long run of things. One of the biggest things I see right now is simply correspondence by the councils. A more rigid system would be nice and if more time is needed, well then the council should just say such and continue with the suspect for another period of time. Simple as that. I hope you all can come to an agreement that benefits us all.

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You agreed and disagreed here, but I like where you are headed. We as community members can't do anything more than point out things we disagree with so it is up to the tier councils themselves to implement change. So as an overseeing tier council member what would you like to do? I personally don't see a minimum usage requirement for a ban as a bad thing, but it will become difficult to implement the longer usage is taken as new threats will have a harder time breaking into say the top 50% just because of the sheer number of pokes seen.

Great summary. Basically put into words what I wanted to convey as well.

Just a thought, but will usage statistics be reset when the tier itself gets reset every two months? This might help over time considering some things that are highly used for 2 months will never be comparable to something that was highly used for 6 months but fell off in usage over a period of time.

Update: Congratulations to Burntzebra for winning the Oceanic OU Tournament this past weekend! The statistics have been adjusted accordingly.

I think the problem here is the "when things settle down, go through the top threats" part. There isn't much systematic involvement by the tier councils to say this is what happens. In my opinion, and possibly my opinion alone, it seems like a council suddenly becomes pressured into meeting and making a decision. It would be pretty cool if there was a weekly meeting or something by the councils individually to discuss possible bans or even just these "threats". This may help to clear the confusion and hostility in most discussion threads.

Ah you found it! And that's exactly what I'm trying to get at. There needs/should be a better method of proposing a ban rather than just shooting straight from the messy garbage discussion thread. An intermediate step like a "suspect test" thread would make sense. It offers the required Tier Council with the time to focus on one problem at a time rather than everything. It would also make sense to have the Tier Council make these pinned suspect threads after they have decided what discussion is the most threatening to the meta. For example, at this time Linoone is probably the biggest threat and thus a suspect thread should be made for Linoone. The UU Council can then look at this pokemon and determine the necessity of a ban from discussion in that thread. Kind of like a ladder system for a ban. EDIT: And to Orangemaniac's post above, there is definitely an arbitrary and subjective aspect to bans. The criteria itself is pretty broad, so maybe this should be refined for PokeMMO.