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I am not advocating to not let people increase the price. If people want to do that, its their choice, however, the Saffron Cap is meant to make sure the prices are reasonable. I don't want competitive play to be a rich man's sport, I want it to be everybody's sport. Now, I am NOT advocating for socialism, I think that people should earn what they have (hence the reason why I am not really upset about the pay day grind). At the same time though, the prices shouldn't be unreasonable either. If someone wants to make the price 100k for each lum berry, go right ahead. You won't sell it with the Saffron Cap. Venezuela is a socialist country and a socialist country is in my book, a failed country. We need capitalism, but we need a "cap" on it so that way people can strive to lower down their prices to compete with other farmers.

Can't we let Saffran limit the price up to 8k? This is where businesses can come in. Someone might want to set the trend by selling berries lower than the market value. Anotherwards, you the player can profit off the Saffran market (if you have the time to plant the berry purchased). I think that making a system like this would increase revenue for each player which would turn a berry farmer into a competing personality. Here is an example of the free market at work: I would say that we need what's called a "cap" or a "barrier" to prevent the prices from being too high. Like what happens if all the lum berries are sold out and the market is filled with people that make lum berries cost 100k? This is why I am advocating for Saffran to sell berries again, but the free market could make Saffran either become useful or useless. Think of Saffran Mart as a policemart making sure that the prices stay below 8k. Here is what would happen if the "Saffran Cap" would come into effect:

This is an extension of this suggestion (except with a bit of a Bestfriends twist to it): A PokeMMO Diploma? What can I do with the diploma? = We can hang it in our secret base. We can not only have a dex diploma, but we can also have a few other diplomas that we can hang. 1. Storyline Diploma for completing both Kanto and Hoenn 2. Official Diploma for winning 5 or more officials since the update. 3. Player of the Month Diploma for being an outstanding example for the community as a whole (kind of like employee of the month) - I'll probably see KaynineXL with this award. (and there might be more diplomas I could think of) Do you think this a good idea or do you think this is a waste of time? Lets discuss your thoughts about this proposal down in the comments.

I differ from your viewpoint, I think that having a merchant at Saffran Mart is an excellent counter to the player who monopolizes the berry market by putting in a desired price. Man no one wants to plant any berries so let me jack up the price to 1 mil per lum berry and 1.5 mil for EV reducing berries. If you want to go comp, you'll have to be just like Josh Lindsay or we could have the mart there to prevent inflated egos. I know that berry planting is tedious, but this is not an excuse to mark up the berries to Josh Lindsay prices. At that rate, there would be a massive drop in competitive performance and a sudden increase in shiny trading. I think Saffran Mart should sell berries again, but make the berries 8k.

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How could this not be too healthy? People can compete against each other for a lower price. Think of it like Target, Kmart, Kroger, and Wal-Mart. I am going to let you determine who will get more consumers: Lets pretend that the wholesaler for Land O'Lakes butter will let each store purchase its product for a total of $2.50 per container. Target sets the trend by selling their butter for a total of $30. Kmart saw Target selling the butter for $30, so they decrease their price to $15 Kroger decided to hire people who pretended to be customers for Kmart. Once these agents saw the price of the butter, they report back to the Kroger executives and they decide to sell the butter for $5. Wal-Mart being the king of cheap for a few years now, would take one glance at Kroger's price and they would immediately cut their price down to $3. Wal-Mart has hit the equilibrium. We can apply this to PokeMMO as well.... Saffron is competing with people by pricing their berries at 8k per berry. Jerryzoo being the avid farmer of PokeMMO decides to sell all three of his berries for 7k. DoubleJ not too pleased with the price Jerry has for his product, so he decides to purchase one of his berries and he would then grow 3 and sell all of them for 6k. KaynineXL does farming for a hobby. He would then purchase one of DoubleJ's Berries and he decides to sell his berries for 3k each. Forfiter would see Kaynine's berry price and he would say, "man as the leader of Pokemon Aura, I would like to lead a trend as well!" So he would grow berries and would sell them on Global Trade Link for 1k each. Forfiter would therefore hit the equilibrium. [spoiler]Simply put, competition would lower prices and would in turn make Saffron useless. The only time Saffron would become useful was if some man/woman with a strong ego would decide to trash the free market by selling their berries for 100k each. Saffron Mart is there to counter this sort of behaviour so the community as a whole can have "fair" prices for our products.[/spoiler]

1. The pool was just an example of a bigger picture. I feel that bases should be a decoration and nothing else. What I mean by this is that bases should not recover pokemon or plant berries. I feel like a base should be a form of expression instead of saying "man I need thing A, so I am going to buy something like a pool or clay pot and put it in my base." I feel like necessity could take away from expression. More soil in bases, might as well insert a pool with level 100 Tentacruels, put in a poke center in there, and last but not least, put a ton of soil in the bases. I mean, we won't have to communicate with the public as much and when you ev train sp def, you can take a break from people. I feel that making soil in bases could hurt PokeMMO's social atmosphere. If you want more soil, you could purpose for more soil to implemented around the land (like make soil in LittleRoot Town or somewhere where there is no soil).

What I am saying is to implement Saffran mart as a counter to pompous individuals. Someone with a brain like Jerryzoo could compete against Saffran which would in turn have DoubleJ compete against Jerry and so on so forth. Who would be profit out of this system, you the consumer. Now for the person who hunts for seeds, can bypass the purchase made at Saffran which would give the seed hunter a bigger margin of profit. Like if the price is 7k per berry, you can charge 6k per berry and the mathematical equation would look like this = 6x3 = 18/ 18k profit because you took the time to hunt for the seeds instead of purchasing 1 which would let you make a full profit instead of deducting a purchase price. [spoiler]Capitalism at work![/spoiler]

The likelihood of this happening is near impossible. However, a compromise in my opinion is needed. Jerry has a point, we should widen the gap of profit for those who would farm instead of buying berries at Saffran or the flower shop. Like make the berries cost 8k and then for the people who would take the effort to grow the berries and sell them for a cheaper price can gain a profit. Here is something that could prove beneficial, the free market farmers could lower down their prices satisfying you the competitive player. Let me give you a string of examples: 1. Jerryzoo purchases 1 lum berry for 8k. He then would grow 3 berries and sell all three for 7k on GTL for a profit of 13k. (8k was spent for 1 berry and then plants that berry and then his farm has 3 berries which he would plan to sell for 7k. Jerry would then earn a total of 21k (7k x 3) on GTL. 21k - 8k spent on the berry needed to farm = 13k profit) 2. DoubleJ has the bright idea of purchasing 1 lum berry from Jerry and then he would grow 3 berries. DoubleJ could then sell all 3 of his berries on GTL for 6k giving him in total of 18k. 18k - 7k = 11k profit 3. Forfiter would purchase 1 lum berry from DoubleJ on GTL. Forfiter could sell all three of his berries for 5k giving him a total 15k. 15k - 6k = 9k profit ------- 8. BlueJim would purchase 1 lum berry from GTL for 1k. BlueJim could sell all three of his berries for 1k giving him a total of 3k 3k - 2k = 1k profit (At this point, the berries had reached an equilibrium price of 1k. As a person who would watch Milton Friedman videos, I would like to offer this question to JonazDK: "even though the equilibrium price is 1k, what happens if we could 'break the rule' and charge $500 pokeyen per berry on GTL?" You would profit much more from this system than the original 1k system from Saffran's berry mart. This would ultimately make Saffran's mart useless and just in case some man or woman goes on an ego trip and decides to sell berries for 30k each since there are no berries around on GTL, the Saffran mart is there to counter his/her plan.)

I think that both the community and staff are frustrated with the result of berry farming being implemented, but I have one idea that might please both parties..... A 1 for 3 system (just like in the Pokemon Emerald Game) 1. Keep Saffran cashier in his place, but sell the berries for 8k not 1k and add a berry cashier in the flower mart in Rustboro. (both places would sell the berries for 5k each) 2. Players can buy 1 lum berry for 8k for example and let the free market go to work. I go into a bit more detail in comment #5. 3. I disagree with Fred on his proposal to kill berries randomly. I think we should let the berries rot slowly instead of a randomized death (uncertainty in the grind = possible frustration). 4. Lets keep both methods, but reward the people who take the time to farm. I would like to hear viewpoints on both sides of the argument. Do you agree with me on this or do you think I have a terrible idea?

1. Yes, but I think that the community needs to interact with each other every once in a while. This would be like if I can purchase a pool in my secret base and I have the ability to pay day tentacools in the pool so I would have an excuse to avoid the public. I think that berry planting should be a public manor. Here is another problem with this suggestion, if you look at your bases, there is no reasonable place to insert soil. A cave is cold and dark (which is not suitable for most plants to live). The other possibility is at the top of a tree. How can a person (or sprite) transfer soil up a tree? How could we plant a berry plant in a tree. Both the tree and the berry plant need the sun and your depriving the tree from its nutrients. 2. I agree with you on this point.

There are two concerns about this suggestion that I have to state: 1. Plants need sunlight in order to grow. 2. I know its relaxing, but lets imagine that you planted your berries in your friend's base and he is not online, what would you do? Would you let your berries rot or will you frantically call your friend and demand him to come online? (sounds good, but I really don't see this debuting in PokeMMO any time soon).

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Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgqJ-NaycIo&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z12gf1sp0rj5g3z1p23fublo5r2mx1ndz

Stay tuned to part 3 of my coverage on the update. (I was tired when I covered the headlines) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DChqtleRsM

Here is what we are all not taking into account, we already have the Battle Frontier. The Battle Frontier is a getaway for all the players who want to have some competitive entertainment. I personally think that the Battle Frontier already serves this function well.

I remember our link battle:

I think its also good for YouTubers like myself who would like to use my base as a studio. I think having a second floor, would be like a "break room" where friends can hang out. When I had this dream, I knew it was worth telling.

BurntZebra VS giantpipe; (near the end) DestructX VS Mlhawk; DestructX VS giantpipe Enjoy! :)

That's fine. We can agree to disagree on this matter. :)

I am going to answer all your concerns pertaining to this suggestion. 1. Battle Frontier Prize Area 2. Because this ladder gives the opportunity for a player to have "two bases" in one, so that's why the price is high. 3. I dream about PokeMMO because I try to figure out a way to help PokeMMO grow. Now I don't dream about PokeMMO all the time, this is just one dream that I thought was worth mentioning. The community and staff has been really nice to me so the feelings are mutual. [spoiler]"Please do not malign my character when your trying to refute my idea."[/spoiler]

Please do not malign my character when your trying to refute my idea (awful is an emotionally charged word [which would make you fail a political science course if you were taking political science]). Now let me comment on your points, the developers can choose what ever amount of Battle Points they would like to charge when they make it available. Here is where your points contradict each other, "further increase players grinding in the BF" and "there is no huge demand." If I don't want to acquire something, why would I take the time to grind for it in the first place? That's like if I am trying to grind for a shiny magneton and I don't care about it in the first place. In my dream, the developers copied and pasted one base on top of the other making their jobs a bit easier. If you put a warp zone like a latter, you can create a second floor which doesn't need an entrance since its the top and bottom floor. In fact, it took little to no effort in my dream just copying and pasting the same design on the top or on the bottom of the other. Lastly, I am going to refer to my beginning statement, "please do not malign my character when trying to refute my idea." You're saying that this idea is "another idea I don't see being added ever." In this statement, it is implicit to me that every idea I ever put up failed which is far from the truth. Look in your PokeDex for example, now take a glance at the "Wild Locations" and "Evolution Chains" idea. Who was the person who asked the developers to do this, I'll let the evidence speak for itself: Wild Locations;Evolution Chains. I am not doing this to make myself look good, but I am doing this because you set the tone for a negative response. If you want to disagree with someone, don't attack their character. In this scene, you also create a negative ethos for yourself. Lets be civil about this discussion.

Happy Birthday CaptainGrey! :)

When I slept last night, I had a dream about something I would like to suggest, a ladder. I was thinking about making a second story either above or below the main floor of the base. There can only be 2 stories meaning that there could either be a main floor and a basement or a main floor and a top floor. In my dream, the developers would copy and paste the same design format for the 2nd floor except no entrance since its the second floor in a house doesn't normally have a door in front and a hole for a ladder. I was also thinking of two laptops if there are two stories because each story needs a laptop. The latter can have only one warp zone which would make it easier for the developers to implement this feature. Here are some questions that my dream answered for this latter project: 1. How do you implement the latter feature? Answer: You need 30,000 Battle Points in order for the latter to be implemented in your base. (Location to get this feature would be the Battle Frontier Prize Corner) 2. Can you get more than one latter? Answer: I don't think it would be possible since you can create only one story. 3. Why do you need a second floor? Answer: I am not saying you need it, but if you want to sport two themes in your base, you can. For example, if you want an icy theme on the main floor and a water theme on the top floor, you can sport that. 4. Will the limits of the secret base be applied to the second floor? Answer: According to my dream, the limit should be the same as the main floor of your base because there are two different rooms at play. Anotherwards, have two "programmed bases", but the bottom floor or top floor having no entrance. Please let me know if my dream didn't cover any of your concerns or if it did and you want to add to them. I would like this discussion to be open to both the community and staff of PokeMMO.

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