TheArchon

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Yes, but what does that have anything to do with the berry economy being fucked up? Also there's this thing called "oppurtunity cost." The time you use to do storyline for berries and plant berries and harvest berries and sell berries, you could be making more money elsewhere. Here look here please click Time is money. Stop being a fucking dumbass. I'm not gaining anything by trying to explain how you're wrong by using the same fucking explanation, which you're obviously failing to grasp. I'm done, Good luck with your life! Hopefully your incredibly low IQ will still get you a job.

But that's not what we're talking about you fucking claud. One of you brought up how berries were fucking "free" and I said it wasn't because you wouldn't be able to grow the first batch for more seeds. Stop derailing to find stupid bullshit that doesn't make sense or has already been addressed. You must really like getting proven wrong or else you'd stop posting. This is getting old anyways. Just stop being a dumbass troll and we can both be on our ways

Ahem let me tell you about this thing. It's called "oppurtunity cost." The time you're spending looking for the fucking seed you need to plant a shitty ass berry, you could be making more money elsewhere. If you were going through the storyline, you're on the right track! Alt runs yield a lot more money per hour than growing berries! Here! Take a look! Why would people just randomly have seeds that you need? Again, the chances that someone does is very low because no one actually berry farms, except for the people who came here to bltch at me and get told what's up. Also, you have some good friends because my friends would still sell them to me or want part of the profits. Please don't make me refute your counter arguments with the same thing again. I'll give you a few options: 1. Think before you post 2. Fuck off

ROFLLLLLLL holy shit and here he is. Too bad too. Ahem, how did you grow the berries to get the seeds? Quite an amazing feat. Again, free berries and free seeds are not a thing. Let me explain something to you. There is a thing called "oppurtunity cost." Remeber that? Probably not. The time used for making berries can be used to make more money elsewhere, or god forbid, do something with your life outside of PokeMMO. You say you spend an hour making berries. Let me show you something that I've linked twice already Now, profit per hour is the amount of money you make in "60min." Understand so far? As you can plainly see from this reputable source there are other ways to make more money in "60min." This is a reputable source too! Cool! Why are you using these points as your argument? Have you run out of things to say? Are you just a troll? The world may never know... TLDR: You obviously have nothing to say anymore because you're bringing up the same points just so that I can refute them with sources. Can you just stop wasting all of our time? Thanks!

Oh my you're quite clueless. Just a reminder that the berry update has only been out for a month so a couple weeks would be about half of the time it's been effective. Nothing is free. Berries need seeds to make them which cost money. Also, this maybe a little too advanced for you, there is a thing called "oppurtunity cost." In the time I would be logging on to click shit on five different characters, I could be playing the market, doing island runs, alt runs, etc. in that same time. So not only does it cost money to grow berries, but it also costs time. Does that make sense to you? Course not. If you read the post, I didn't expect shit to be cheaper, staff did. That was the whole point of the fucking post. Again, berries are not free. Why would anyone want to be a bltch and be the team berry farmer? They'd get nothing out of it, especially not a good amount of money. Why would I want to search for people selling berries when I could just fly to saffron and get as many as I want for cheaper? The system is flawed and needs to be changed. Why should I fucking have to find a way to "work around the system?" That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. TLDR: You would've proven your point better if you just would've stopped posting. Here's your second chance.

I agree it is underutilized because of the reasons we've been discussing, which is why I brought this to attention. Go back to how it was or at least change it please

Well first of all, I did farm berries for a few weeks. It was boring and I didn't make nearly as much as I wanted, and ultimately it was a waste of time. The reason I made this post was because it looks like people feel the same way, what with the berries not being available and whatnot. Also, you guys are using the argument that people should just make them for themselves or their team and I specifically said in the original post that that's "not what we're talking about" so you can be done with that. There shouldn't be a fucking need to ask people for cheap berries when berries used to be cheap before they fucked the game up. If you are using the argument of "the money goes no where" go complain about gtl eating money, pvp eating bp, mail eating money, etc. Stop using shitty arguments to play devil's advocate, I haven't met one person yet who likes the berry update and for good reason. Also, I don't need a tldr because unlike everyone else here, I actually read. tl;dr: you're wrong, and can stop posting on my thread as well

You're being awfully optimistic and a uguu tbh. Never did I say there were no incentives to berry farming, just not as many as other ways of making money. Also, it doesn't take "a few clicks" to to do the job. To make a significant amount of money, you'd have to have a good amount of alts growing berries at a time. It still may not take as much work as island runs, but when you want to make money what would you rather do? Log on five times throughout the day to click the same thing on five different alts AND THEN wait to sell on gtl, or island run in an hour. Also, island running is pretty mindless. Given that you have a mind... Completely irrelevant. Also not true at all. If this was true, I could get a stack of sitrus berries if I were to play doubles in an instant, but there are only 17 on gtl rn. Why in the flying fuck would I want to track down someone on trade corner, to find that they aren't even online when I need a chesto berry before my battle. Don't post on my thread again. 0% this Here you go buddy, if you didn't see it before Also, I don't really know that much about seeds so I'll take your word for that. And why would it be stingy? If a berry used to be 1k and if I could get as many as I want, why would I want to pay 1.5k for a couple of them, then buy a couple for 1.7k, etc.? Stingy or just being smart?

725k cash on whismur?

No, as I said in the post, if you would have liked to read it before commenting, there aren't very many incentives to be a berry farmer. You could make a lot more money a lot quicker elsewhere The graph was just supposed to be conceptual, but yes I agree with your second part None of this is true at all. 150k a day is garbage compared to most other ways of making money. To make 150k, you do have to have multiple characters growing berries at a time which can be a hassle. And 150k for 8-12 hours of waiting? Come on now. You can make 150k in an hour of island running and you get the money up front instead of having to wait for the berries to grow and sell. I doubt you could make money selling them under 1k because some seed prices are still above 1k. And yes there aren't very many berry farmers because why would you be a berry farmer? There's no point. Read this please: The graph was gotten from google images and was supposed to just explain briefly how supply and demand works, but yes, the graph is not an accurate representation of the berry economy.

Hm, I suppose you're right, I was only thinking short term. It is still one big if though as to whether it will become stable. Thank you for the reply

Ok, so now that I haven't heard anyone complain about berries in a while, let me just say this. IIRC, a staff member said that the berry update was made so that everyone could make a ton berries, resulting in them becoming cheaper than 1k (old Saffron price). If this is true, it is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, as simple economics and psychology would tell you that berry prices would never drop below 1k. Why would they? Theoretically, you'd be losing money. And as this thread is posted, there are 0 berries below 1k. Some berries come damn near close, but I can 100% guarantee you that berries will not drop below 1k and remain at that price steadily in the upcoming (at least) 3 months. If this isn't true, then why would you fuck up berries for everyone? I see no upside to the berry update other than just the speculation of "oh, it'll drop below 1k," which hasn't proven true yet. Literally none. And I can't imagine, or at least I hope this isn't the case, devs just thought "hey let's just fuck everyone." Berry growers aren't making as much profit as they would in something like island runs, so what's the point in growing them? There is none. Need proof? I'm checking the amount of berries on GTL and there isn't a quantity of berries above 80, most sitting around 50. For god's sake there's only one fucking sitrus berry. If you need a refresher on high school economics, let me help. Because of the update, berry supplies have tanked. You have to grow them now instead of there just being an unlimited supply, which costs money, and has little payoff. There are no incentives to growing berries besides using them for yourself, but that's not what we're talking about. On top of this, there has been a lot of PVP thanks to automated matchmaking, automated tournaments, leaderboards, better prizes, etc. In short, the supply has been decreasing, and demand has been increasing. Here's a visual: So what's happening in this graph is the initial supply, represented by S, is negatively shifting (shifting to the left) to become the new supply, or supply prime, or S', or whatever you want to call it. This change represents the lack of berry growing, etc., which is resulting in a shortage of berries. As you can probably guess, D, the initial demand, is positively shifting (shifting to the right) to become the new demand, blah blah blah, more PVP, you get the point. The axis, P and Q represent Price and Quantity respectively. The point where the initial supply and initial demand meet is called the "equilibrium" which was originally the unlimited supply of berries for 1k a piece. When the supply and demand shift, they make a new equilibrium (with less supply and more demand), which as you can see, is higher on the P axis. You know what that means? Sure you do. I'm having fun. Obviously, this is the very very basics of economics, but it's right there. The berry system isn't an exception to any economy. So what I'm saying is that it's not too late, just revert back to buying berries in Saffron because the berry update is not benefiting anyone. What do you guys think?

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How much pure cash would you sell for

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