Umbramol

Personally im not sure about p-z yet.. The first issue that it brought was that it seemingly is a lot centralising for the tier that it instantly shifted the meta. But on the other hand i have yet to see it overinfluence games as it is presented to do. Many factors can pitch into that(outplays, hax, poor usage etc). I try to compare it with yanmega because they have similar powers offensively and not many pokemons switch into any of those two. The drawback to yanmega is that it is really weak to rocks but on the other hand its typing also offers key resistances/immunities such as fighting and ground which are types that are really good in the tier. Also yanmega has the advantage of not having to predict when it comes in. Its moves dont get resisted, so there is no outplay potential. You have to throw something that can tank the hit. They have other differences aswell but im getting out of point. I personally believe that more testing is needed since in my opinion the uu community hasnt finished adapting into p-z yet. The first month ive seen either players not switching it up at all or hard counter the possibility that their opponent might run p-z. And while p-z might be overcentralising i personally cannot be sure about it yet since the meta hasnt stabilised around it. Because in my opinion that would be the main reason that would justify a ban. Making the meta unhealthy by revolving too much around and not it being broken offensively since it has been proven that it can be checked even if its just by a handful of mons.

Where are the games?? Where is the shittalk??

I mean they celebrated getting a tie vs us.. It sums up their goals in the tournament

Payback is a uguu they say.. Never celebrate early brother

Vamos RmW!!!

Fck em up mikasa

Man someday when u turn 18 u ll watch back at what u type and realise how pooped you sound. Or at least i hope you will.

Like your word means anything to anyone.

20m bet on a single match.. Thats when you know more than 2 players are playing this

jesus we aint gonna hear the end of it now.. he gonna brag for 85 months

vs urquidi in 10

UU stall player

after 3 weeks

umbramol vs sgerard in 20 minutes

I dont know where to ask this so i will ask it here. PorygonZ is subject to test as shown when you choose it in your party for ranked games. Info about this testing is gothered by any uu game played? And if thats the case how would someone decide that said game is an accurate representation to judge porygonZ's influence in the tier? Or are we just checking its winrate and what pokemon's usage changes alongside? Or are we gonna gother information by what players think about it? I think we need explanation on this testing so we know how we can contribute to it or facilitate the proccess in any way we can @Munya

I wont get into a debate with you bro.. Its a waste

At least the little i have won hasnt come from coaching.

vs erosg after busso vs lotus

Suspect test p2 for the reasons i have already mentioned in uu discussion. Haxorus and pz might need new testing because of the huge changes the meta has seen since their last test but in my opinion first we should look at the existing problem the tier has and that is p2. In the case we dont suspect test p2 then re-test pz because its a specially oriented pokemon that is able to break through p2, it hasnt got many checks but there are 2 and most of the best scarf users in the tier are able to revenge kill it. ( i dont think pz is gonna be healthy for the tier but i dont think p2 is also. So in my opinion it shows inconsistency in tiering and this requires fixing one way or another)

252+ Atk Choice Band Metagross Hammer Arm vs. 252 HP / 32 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 136-160 (70.8 - 83.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Choice Band Krookodile Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 32 Def Eviolite Porygon2: 136-160 (70.8 - 83.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO and to justify my claims here are 2 calculations where porygon is supposedly functioning as a pure special defensive wall yet it has the ability to stop a super effective move from popular choice band users in the tier. And im not even running the most optimal ev spread to it i just used the one provided by showdown calculator. You can run bold or calm or even modest without investing in its defenses, only in hp and it still tanks like a boss and returns insane damage to you.

Porygon2 to BL1 I believe p2 is unhealthy for the tier. It falls under defensive uber characteristics(as stated by the tiering etiquette). Its typing has only one weakness, it can function both as a physical defensive wall and a special defensive wall at the same time with its insane bulk, access to immediate healing and pivoting are the main reasons. Also its movepool makes switching into it a heavy risk for offensive pokemons because of the crippling factor with discharge and tri attack while also possibly taking heavy damage and even if you avoid getting crippled the majority of the metagame cant beat it in a 1v1 situation. The mechanics our game follows make running knock off, a move that could cripple p2,not optimal. Which is another plus for the mon itself. After playing countless UU games its clear to me that porygon2 alone ruins a playstyle in the tier, which is offense, because of the reasons mentioned above and that makes it unhealthy the very least. In my opinion it justifies a ban and it should be taken under serious consideration.

I wish

Vs epicverde in 20 minutes approximately

Time to pull a NoRe on them

Imagine not mentioning @Lvkeebeing on the bench