carton Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 [quote name='Atuan' timestamp='1359686965' post='179520']Here's an example. Earthquake, regardless of how useful it is in the metagame, usually takes 40-60 minutes to obtain on an alt run, at best times recorded. With the biking grass rate at about seven encounters per minute, we just apply some math and go from there. Marowak is a little under 10% encounter rate at Sevault Canyon, so roughly two Marowak for every three minutes of non-stop encounter. We'll use forty-five minutes as the check, because you have to consider alt runs also gain ALL TMs and if the times were the same, most people would opt for alt runs. So this gives us thirty Marowak in a forty-five minute grind. If only one of those Marowak had an Earthquake, then that'd come out to a 3% held item rate[/quote] I think I missed smt here... So you are proposing a method for farming a single TM that would take the same amount of time as doing an alt run, in which you get not only all TMs as you stated, but also the move tutors and one time pokes? But hey, know what? Lets make it even better. Lets force people to spend a good 2-3 hours smashing buttons at the casino so that they can get the Eevee they`d get in 20 minutes doing an alt run! Now seriously, if you want to create a method that would encourage people to stop making alt runs, this method would need to be MORE effective than the one you want to replace... Link to comment
Darkshade Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 [quote name='carton' timestamp='1359711730' post='179698'] Now seriously, if you want to create a method that would encourage people to stop making alt runs, this method would need to be MORE effective than the one you want to replace... [/quote] Uh, breeding? Link to comment
carton Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Dont get me wrong. I do like the idea, but keep in mind how long it takes to complete a full alt run when setting the `drop` percentages. If it takes over half an hour to get one, then you are just encouraging people to keep creating alts because it will still be more eficient. Link to comment
Darkshade Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 [quote name='carton' timestamp='1359732754' post='179847'] Dont get me wrong. I do like the idea, but keep in mind how long it takes to complete a full alt run when setting the `drop` percentages. If it takes over half an hour to get one, then you are just encouraging people to keep creating alts because it will still be more eficient. [/quote] You're talking about how things are now, with an incomplete game, it won't be in the future. Link to comment
Atuan Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 [quote name='carton' timestamp='1359732754' post='179847'] Dont get me wrong. I do like the idea, but keep in mind how long it takes to complete a full alt run when setting the `drop` percentages. If it takes over half an hour to get one, then you are just encouraging people to keep creating alts because it will still be more eficient. [/quote] If you'd like, they could turn random battles back on and turn that two hour alt run into a two day run. You have to think of TMs as a supplement to farming, not the primary source of moves. Read my EQ/DC example. Link to comment
Robofiend Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 gonna necro this old thread.. why not just make all tms available from GC? I know that the dev. team has plans to make either craftable tms or have them looted through the pickup ability, but why not just make them available at the casino temporarily while these things are still in the making. Still seems better than having people endlessly alt-run to get more tms and it seems like it could easily be implemented/disabled as necessary. Alphatron and KingBowser 2 Link to comment
OldKeith Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Totally agreed no move should be once in a run only. Renewable move tutors are also "planned", but they have been for months and the new update did not bring them. So I am waiting for the developers to focus on this aspect a bit. Link to comment
Quakkz Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 we need renewable tms and move tutors asap now with the breedingbuff a lot of comps will need some moves :< Link to comment
Zehkar Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 All TM's are now available in marts all over both regions. Link to comment
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