BurntZebra

the spont happened yesterday at about 4:30 pm edt. He just hasn't edited the title to show the lack of "open-ness" of the spont

Wynaut can come in vs choice band locked pokemon and take them out. Curse snorlax is common as well which is an easy encore target, assuming the user has some way to deal with a snorlax that is locked into curse. Although some people may argue that the meta has shifted to a more offensive one and therefore wynaut trapping and killing a wall is not banworthy, but it seems to be quite the opposite. Pokemon like agility metagross and jolteon can really blossom once wynaut has taken out the problematic wall, and if the opponent doesn't run the wall in the first place, jolteon/metagross work still and wynaut can take out something like metagross/starmie/swampert/flygon/arcanine instead of the normal targets like blissey/snorlax.

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and VGC tournaments have the level 50 scale down, gotta be official

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I would probably drop some move on starmie for recover since instant recovery is always nice. I have also found agility/thunderpunch/earthquake/meteor mash metagross really wrecks in trainer tower. Aerodactyl+mence seem solid for the doubles battles and calm mind blissey works well. I would probably drop starmie for metagross now that I think about it. Starmie has been very underwhelming in trainer tower. It fails to ohko a lot of stuff and there are a lot of electric types/chanseys/blisseys that force it out

I'll have you know that I started the original wynaut discussion thread in late august 2014

am in yo

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rip my OU career

>removes ThinkNice >adds DrCraig >looks for zebra

well yeah there are multiple pokemon that can survive a +6 attack from linoone, but most of them either a) get worn down throughout the match and therefore cannot take on linoone as a late game sweeper or b ) cannot ko linoone with any of their moves before linoone can 2hko them

moveset on pika? and likelyhood that would you trade it for not a massive overpay?

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If slowking was natural cure or something, yeah I would agree that you can dismiss status as being a counter, as it can just switch out to cure the status, but alas it is not natural cure and relies on another pokemon to heal it of its status.

Well I'm no expert but I didn't think team synergy was ban worthy. It was talked about in the vileplume/blastoise threads before, each pokemon as a whole was breakable, but when paired with the appropriate team mates, the core was difficult to break. Imo only a pokemon that is unstoppable on its own should be ban worthy, not whether or not a pokemon is OP when combined with other elements on a team.

oh the magical surskit, the lone gen 3 pokemon that resists ice/ground coverage

Never actually considered curse slowking, most likely due to the lack of a physical stab. Although slack off may seem like the lord and savior of the slowpoke evolution tree, its a double edged sword because UU has the most toxic stall of any tier which will force out slowking very quickly. In addition to its vulnerability to status, there are many offensive pokemon that can force slowking out, obviously depending on if it is curse, calm mind, or just utility. Absol gets a special mention as it will ohko slowking with pursuit if the slowking tries to switch out and can ohko slowking with megahorn if slowking attempts to predict the pursuit. As was previously mentioned are crawdaunt and sharpedo, which resist/are immune to slowking's stab attacks and crawdaunt can easily set up dragon dances or swords dances to easily overwhelm slowking. Then strong special attackers such as manectric/cacturne/electabuzz (maybe?) can force out slowkings that rely on special defense investment and curse to attempt to sweep. Although slowking is definitely a dominant force in UU, depending on match ups of course, I don't really see it as being banworthy just because of the offensive pokemon in UU that can easily overwhelm slowking.

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I think its similar to diglett when dugtrio was ubers. Yeah sure, it can trap a few pokemon in UU, but losing a pokemon in UU doesn't seem as game changing because its more offensive oriented. Walls in OU have a lot more purpose, blissey/snorlax cover all the special attackers that would be able to sweep the tier otherwise, slowbro covers many physical attackers, weezing covers many physical attackers as well. And "hyper offense" in OU isn't as effective as in UU just because the walls can actually wall the attackers of the tier.

Well at the moment, the playstyle seems to be shifting to whatever works. During the first UU tournament, I built my UU team around walling a lot of the top tier threats like charizard/tauros/espeon/dodrio, but then next UU tournament people either began running similar wall teams, or teams that would beat the wall team, such as running sd kingler/sd zangoose/linoone, and now the next stage is where people run physically defensive plume+steelix+armaldo to cover the offensive threats being used at the time or people will run the new offensive threats discovered in the previous UU tournament.

Basically what Senile was suggesting before, that the AFK timer actually supports trying to time clause as a strategy