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lulnul Total Playtime- 1,197 hrs OT Shinies - 12 . Comp Gliscor, Comp Ttar, Reuniclus, Mienfoo, Slowking, Roserade, Rhydon, Whismur, 2x Onix, Steelix, Marowak 2022-05-06 Big on shiny hunting obviously but also PokeMMO OU PVP and current gen pokemon and VGC. Currently on a team but looking for one that is more active.

I feel like you fundamentally don't understand how these teams are being played. The Dugtrio is used to remove a would-be check from 1 of 3 Pokemon that are notorious for sweeping games from a single boost. I'm not running around with no check to Volcarona, it's been removed. Even if you can stop the sweep, you've lost so many resources in the trade that most times you will lose. I will concede that both Hydreigon and Weavile match up favorably into the core, as they can guaranteed pressure Espeon and do not get trapped effectively. But it feels like options are limited in that regard. Without one of these pokemon on your team, you will lose a mon to Dugtrio if your opponent isn't terrible. There is no outplay in game.

That's a single pokemon. And it's a "solution" that comes from the team builder. Excadril isn't a splash-able pokemon like Rotom or Scizor, it needs the right team around it. Can you not run the entire playstyle of Sand because you need your Excadril to be Mold Breaker? seems silly.

It's currently being spammed in combination with Magic Bounce, which creates an incredibly unhealthy interaction that goes like this: You require hazards to break Dugtrio's Focus Sash. Espeon blocks those hazards. Removing Espeon means getting trapped (without hazards) and losing a Pokemon with 0 counter play. You bring in a Pokemon to revenge kill the Dugtrio. The Dugtrio faints then the Dugtrio player brings in another questionably balanced pokemon like Serperior, Volcarona, or Shedninja who are capable of winning the game in one turn from the right position. There is no counter play to this in-game. All counterplay to this pokemon is specific and needs to come from within the teambuilder. With so many threats in this meta game tech-ing specifically for a 3% usage mon seems crazy, but otherwise you will just lose every time you face it. Shedninja currently sports the highest winrate out of all "real" pokemon, with Espeon + Dugtrio as its most frequent partners BY FAR. Dugtrio itself sports a very high winrate, it's 4th behind Jellicent and Quagsire. (someone explain that to me also lol, what are these guys doing at over 55% WR) I'm open to being convinced this pokemon isn't inherently unbalanced. But as of right now I believe it promotes a very toxic style of play.