SuperBXdanielo

They don't remove moves

The gallade nerf controversy was not really about the nerf itself, but about the fact that it was made without the supervision of the community together with the 1,4× being weird to calculate. If changing a move for balance is possible, then the outrage buff wouldn't be a problem, especially when we are talking about such a important part of the game like outrage is. A stab CC is the main way to deal damage today, but if we someday get latias, latios, celebi, Slowbro, Creselia and other fighting resistance, wallbreaking will be extremely hard. And if they never add those mons, the game will feel incomplete. But if 120 BP outrage would be broken, 100 BP is the way to go, especially in the future with Jirachi and Heatran to balance the buff. But I curious to know how do you think pvp will look like in the future if it stay progressing in the same way, as you may think that outrage is unnecessary

Hydreigon and garchomp spend years whitout dm and SD, Gallade also spend some months with a custom calculation in his ability. If they want to do something like giving 10 BP to outrage they will whitout worrying with anything you said, Pokemmo is a customized simulation after all. 100 BP outrage isn't even hard to calculate like Gallade 1,4× buff, it would be just a smart way to balance this move whitout adding the fairy type or making it useless

Would be cool if we had a 100 BP outrage at least, ou is becoming really defensive with every new update (regenerator neutralizing gas weezing Zapdos suicune, heatran jirachi and celebi in the future), and now most of the high elo players are playing defensive teams. We are not seeing any relevant wallbreaker being add any time soon, so a 10 point damage increase in this move would be a interesting way to test if it can help, way better than gallade I think

They should have done that a long time ago but regenerator speed boost or whatever is op in pvp, with complex bans they are way easier to balance. A new anniversary event with Jotho alphas and the remaining ha would be great

They should just release all ha and complex ban regenerator

Zapdos and Gallade are both common allies and they are rising in usage, he probably helps them somehow

Empoleon OU? 👀

Skarmory is responsible to punish u turn attempts from Pokemons like Scizor, who would take damage from rocky helmet. Why use a shed shell skarmory, if it can't do what's supposed to do? Why use a non assault vest tyranitar, if he can't take starmie hydro pump? Shed shell will not resolve the dugtrio problem, if that's was the case, them every dugtrio weak Mon would use the item. That's the reason behind frag ironic response, if you don't get it, you think that everyone who plays the game and lost to dugtrio are stupid because they don't use a shed shell tyranitar?

Those counters can easily be exploited by his teammates, there's a reason for dugtrio have a niche alongside porygon2 and Shedinja. Shed shell is a terrible item that don't have many use outside of very specific situation, lum berry and rock helmet can be useful in many other ways, as caio said.

Dragonite lum berry is good, shed shell magnezone terrible

At least you can use lum berry or rocky helmet to punish them, as they are very common strategies that can be played around. But you can't do the same with dugtrio, just be trapped and killed

It's like we are being prohibited to use paper, broken things like wish tp Chansey or suicune are ignored despite being as strong and centralizing as Hydreigon, but we are supposed to just ignored and keep playing hyper offense to have a chance against stall. And we have a huge language barrier that keep a huge part of the player base far away from the forums, it's unfair to blame them like that

I hope they don't remove zen headbutt from breloom too

I am not really into the meta of the 6 generation so I will not keep talking about that, but I really think we don't need fairy types or those mons to counter the Dragon/fighting types we have, especially because our offense is way weaker than in bw too, and we even have neutralizing gas weezing who completely counter any fighting type except for Infernape. If the opposing team use both fighting and dragon to deal with the steel types, then you should just do the same and put a resistance to fighting together with the steel type. Heatran would be a useful addition if we have outrage (adding it right now will probably create a defensive power creep in the same level as the regenerators). Jirachi seems more like a revenge killer for the dragons, all of the good ones are hit 4× by ice, jirachi can take a outrage and hit a Ice Punch, making outrage spam more dangerous to the user. I said that balanced teams would rise because they have both the tools to defend against the dragon types, use and revenge kill them. As I said, the three main ones are hit 4× to ice, Dragonite and salamance can be outspeed by scarf Mienshao and receive stone edge or hidden power ice in return, you can even use Dragonite as setup fodder for a scarf moxie salamance, so it would be a fight about who destroy the enemy defensive core and opposing speed control Mon to use outrage in the end, if both of them relie on dragon types for end game cleaning at least. Hyper Offense will have a hard time with garchomp outrage being a thing, he can basically outspeed all of the HO cores we have, even salamance can do the same when volcarona fainted to not get burned, BO will be the way so it can have Metagross or jirachi support to survive those. I don't know if we need any new defensive cores for now, balanced teams still lack the offense they need to surpass walls, especially against stall teams, but I agree that Zapdos is a nice addition against common HO cores. I said that fighting would be less common, but it's more like the meta will be less focused on them, so sorry for that. I don't get the conk pursuit core, it seems like a old core to deal with cofagrigus but don't seems to work with weezing very well as it can be heal by Chansey and even have some speed investment to burn tytar(that's my strategy to flamethrower bulky Scizor), but maybe I can try.