DaftKitteh
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Yes, and I'm just asking because it looks like this since the beginning of PokeMMO.
It's pretty minor.
Not to say it shouldn't be fixed, all bugs should be fixed so that the game is as polished as possible, but there are bigger things to worry about.
From what I can tell it looks like it's caused because the original Fire Red maps don't extend far enough to fill up the full screen(Our PokeMMO screen shows more than a Gameboy Advance), and the game has an option called something that just repeats a texture for areas where no map exists.
But since the bug has already been reported this thread is pointless, as is my responses
Edit: If it scares and/or bothers you, find that option and turn it off via the settings menu. -
If this is a legitimate bug and not due to a mod or something then it should be posted in Bug Reports.
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Briefly spoken to Noad about it and nothing is decided, but if we were to do anything like this it'd like be introducing RU, which would replace current NU, and then 'NU' would become the 'trash tier'.
Awesome, not sure if this is a confirmation of new NU(if added as described) being an actual balanced tier or just a shit-tier.
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Ah so like a box we can tick while in the NU tier and remove the useless Pokemon?
That's a good solution, however the original intent was to have Ubers, OU, UU, NU Other.
I do like the idea of a box to tick or some other method of keeping the NU tier as it is, however that requires dev time.
The easiest option would be just make a Other 'tier' in the tier list of the PokeDex and put them there, hence why I called it a tier. -
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I like this suggeston , +1. Those pokemon that are pre evolutions of those who belong already in the NU tier(bulbasaur/charmander etc) are not contributing anything and take space in the pokedex, making it harder and inconvenient to search through the list. The pokemon with one form(only NU forms) that may are not good in the Tier at the moment should remain in the list.
I like this system.
Requires very little maintenance, is fair and keeps everything noteable in the tier visible.
Like Kizhaz says, keeping some things around is necessary, but keeping Weedle/Kakuna around when we have Beedrill in the tier is pointless.
This still leaves Magikarp(and possibly some other useless Pokemon) in the tier though, but you could still probably cut out a good portion of NU with these guidelines since some Pokemon (Nidos, Beedrill, Butterfree etc.) have two prevos in the same tier.
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You're making a big issue out of it lol. He literally did it in 30mins. I could make a list in no time with everything completely shit that has no use.
Should also be mentioned, as said in the post, I have no experience with NU.
I, someone with no experience with the tier, was able to go through and pick out 121 (120 if shelgon is taken away, but more if I had all the dex entries) Pokemon that are worthless competitively, yet we have them grouped into a competitive tier. -
If that is the case, I disagree with the idea. A tier where the low usage NU pokemon end up? I like that, as it adds more options for varied styles of play, and the inclusion of niche pokemon that would only see the light of day occasionally. (LF Tier where Persian is viable)
That being said, I do agree with DrCraig that a "tier" designed simply to eek out what pokemon are not usable in NU would be unnecessary hand holding. As mentioned, there are plenty of resources avalible to any player to find what is in high usage and what every usable pokemon in the tier can do.
Edit: This would also encourage the usage fallacy, where especially new players consider any poke not high on the usage table to complete crap.
I agree that a tier where the 'lower than NU' Pokemon are viable would be cool, but wouldn't be feasible for the reasons Craig explained.
The issue for me is that all of this[spoiler]
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Charmander
Charmeleon
Squirtle
Warturtle
Caterpie
Metapod
Weedle
Kakuna
Pidgey(sorry rache)
Ratatta
Spearow
Ekans
Sandslash
Nidoran M/Nidoran F
Nidorina/nidorino
Clefairy
Vulpix
Jigglypuff
Psyduck
Mankey
Growlithe
Poliwag
Poliwhirl(?)
Abra
Machop
Dodrio
Seel
Grimer
Shellder
Ghastly
Onix(?)
Drowzee
Krabby
Voltorb
Exeggutor
Cubone
Weezing
Rhyhorn
Horsea
Goldeen
Staryu
Magikarp(;-;7)
Eevee
Omastar
Kabuto
Sentret
Hoothoot
Ledyba
Spinark
Chinchou
Cleffa
Igglybuff
Togepi
Natu
Mareep
Flaaffy
Wooper
Unknown
Pineco
Snubbul
Teddyursa
Slugma
Swinub
Remoraid
Houndour
Larvitar
Pupitar
Treecko
Grovyle
Torchic
Combusken
Mudkip
Marshtomp
Poochyna
Zigzagoon
Wurmple
Silcoon
Lotad
Lombre
Seedot
Nuzleaf
Taillow
Wingull
Ralts
Kirlia
Surskit
Shroomish
Slakoth
Vigoroth
Nincada
Whismur
Loudred
Makuhita
Azuril
Skitty
Aron
Lairon
Elektrike
Volbeat
Gulpin
Carvanah
Waimer
Numel
Spoink
Vibrava (didn't include trapinch because it's viable iirc)
Cacnea
Swablu
Barboach
Corphish
Baltoy
Feebas
Shuppet
Snorunt
Spheal
Sealo
Bagon
Shelgon(?)
Beldum
Metang[/spoiler]
is in our NU tier.
These Pokemon make a useful tool in game completely useless, and they provide no benefit.
Aside from the 30 minutes it takes forNoad and Darkshadethe tier council to sit down and say (This has 0% usage and does nothing for the tier), there is no downside to removing these Pokemon from the NU tier.
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I can't see any good coming out of a NFE trash poke tier. I dont think it is appropriate to want a tier just so we can show people what the good stuff in NU is in the dex either. I dont think you need the pokedex to hold your hand and tell you 'this is what is good cus its in the tier.' We have enough tools on the forum and game to figure that shit out. I also don't think we need another tier in general. We do not need a new tier to worry about when we cannot tame our current, main, 3. Another tier entails finding another 3 able bodied tier council members who are actually willing. Regarding officials, this would entail holding a load of officials to gather usage from all tiers. The usage from this new garbage tier, anyway, would not be that accurate in my opinion. With this small playerbase, I dont know how we can assume by adding another tier that we can gain a strong playerbase that provide data that is actually meaningful also.
tl;dr we dont need more tiers
#NULivesDontMatter
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I probably should have defined what I meant by 'Trash Tier'
What I suggest isn't an actual tier, but something similar to Ubers.
This tier wouldn't need to be balanced, it would only exist to make the currently existing NU tier clearer.
This new tier would not be there so that the NU tier shows 'what's good', but rather to get rid of the 'what's worthless' from the tier so that the players have an easier time deciding for themselves 'what's good'. Sifting through 100 useless Pokemon in the dex is annoying, and it makes the tier look unpolished and like the NU tier is the garbage can of our tiers.
As stated, once the shit Pokemon like Magikarp are out of NU this new 'Trash Tier' would not need any more maintenance(Unless weedle-tier pokemon suddenly become viable).
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Also, at some point somebody is going to want to host a PU, new NU, Little Cup or whatever the tier is called tournament. It would be a fun gimmick, but I agree with you: It's not worth the effort it'd take to balance it.
The main idea here is to just put a garbage can on the bottom so that our PokeDex looks polished and is a viable source of information on Competitive Tiers. Our OU and UU tiers are able to be used this way, and are invaluable tools when teambuilding.
Readily available information in game is something that our game could use more of.
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Actually would be more like RU (Rarely Used) and NU (Never Used), where RU is what our current NU is, and NU is truely the never used pokemon.
RU Description
[Spoiler] RarelyUsed, or RU, is the tier that contains all of the Pokémon that are just short of UU in terms of the required usage amount, which equates to a 50% chance of encountering the Pokémon in UU in 20 battles. These Pokémon can still be used in UU, and a lot of them are actually quite powerful as well, but they simply aren't used enough for them to change their tier placement. [/Spoiler]
Would be very helpful imo, and add more diversity to play styles and tiers.
RU is arguably better than calling it the 'Trash Tier' or something similar.
Although I hate when names of things get changed(because people will be saying 'NU' when in actuality they mean 'RU' for a while after the change), it's probably the best way to go about it.
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Little Cup and Partially Used also sound pretty good. Pros of those would be that the current NU tier wouldn't have to have it's name changed. -
I did a brief search using the term "NU tier", and didn't see anything related to this but it's been on my mind for a while.
Currently when a user(this is going off of my experience mostly) wants to check what's in a tier they open the PokeDex and look through that tiers section. This tool is invaluable because it allows you to see what you're up against in the tier you choose to play. For NU however this is really difficult due to the excessive amount of trash in the tier list.
Our Ubers, OU and UU tier are all pretty small only really consisting of 4 rows of Pokemon or less and it allows you to easily see what's in the tier. Due to the nature of the NU tier it's expected that it have a bunch of 'junk' in it, however I think the 'junkiest of the junk' should be moved to a lower tier just so that one can more conveniently see what the NU tier consists of.
By 'junkiest of the junk' I mean things such as Magikarp, Caterpie, Weedle etc. Things that have literally no chance of being useful. This does however present a problem: How to sort the junkiest junk from the viable junk.
A few possible solutions:- NFE Tier:
A tier that holds all the 'Not Fully Evolved' Pokemon. This presents a problem though, because some NFE Pokemon such as Diglett are viable in the tier. - A lower tier decided by the NU Tier Council:
While it's ridiculous to add an extra tier that needs maintenance, this 'Unusable' or 'Really Bad Tier' or some other name wouldn't really require much maintanence. Once Pokemon like Magikarp are removed from NU and placed here, they will likely never need to be moved back into NU. Some other Pokemon may be borderline in the sense that they /can/ be used in NU semi-effectively, but aren't really common or widely accepted as viable, and those should probably be left in NU
Pros of this system:
- Improves the overall polish of the PokeDex
- Allows players to more easily see what's used in NU, and as such makes teambuilding easier.Cons:
- Takes time to sort out
- Adding another tier
- I'll have to accept that Magikarp literally is trash
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NOTE: I have absolutely no experience with the NU tier, so this list is mainly just to represent how much stuff needs to be cleaned before checking the dex becomes a viable method of researching a tier. I also left a handful out because I didn't have their dex entries.
[spoiler]Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Charmander
Charmeleon
Squirtle
Warturtle
Caterpie
Metapod
Weedle
Kakuna
Pidgey(sorry rache)
Ratatta
Spearow
Ekans
Sandslash
Nidoran M/Nidoran F
Nidorina/nidorino
Clefairy
Vulpix
Jigglypuff
Psyduck
Mankey
Growlithe
Poliwag
Poliwhirl(?)
Abra
Machop
Dodrio
Seel
Grimer
Shellder
Ghastly
Onix(?)
Drowzee
Krabby
Voltorb
Exeggutor
Cubone
Weezing
Rhyhorn
Horsea
Goldeen
Staryu
Magikarp(;-;7)
Eevee
Omastar
Kabuto
Sentret
Hoothoot
Ledyba
Spinark
Chinchou
Cleffa
Igglybuff
Togepi
Natu
Mareep
Flaaffy
Wooper
Unknown
Pineco
Snubbul
Teddyursa
Slugma
Swinub
Remoraid
Houndour
Larvitar
Pupitar
Treecko
Grovyle
Torchic
Combusken
Mudkip
Marshtomp
Poochyna
Zigzagoon
Wurmple
Silcoon
Lotad
Lombre
Seedot
Nuzleaf
Taillow
Wingull
Ralts
Kirlia
Surskit
Shroomish
Slakoth
Vigoroth
Nincada
Whismur
Loudred
Makuhita
Azuril
Skitty
Aron
Lairon
Elektrike
Volbeat
Gulpin
Carvanah
Waimer
Numel
Spoink
Vibrava (didn't include trapinch because it's viable iirc)
Cacnea
Swablu
Barboach
Corphish
Baltoy
Feebas
Shuppet
Snorunt
Spheal
Sealo
Bagon
Shelgon(?)
Beldum
Metang[/spoiler]
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This is really minor, and not even really necessary imo.
Never once in my 3k hours of playing have I thought "Damn, I wish my PokeDex showed more entries!". Not to say it's a bad idea, just is it really something that needs to be done?
I mean you really don't need to search through a long list of PokeDex entries anyways. The search bar exists, and if you want to look at a specific tier Ubers, OU and UU are pretty small and I don't think even need you to scroll down more than 1 line at most to see all the entries.
NU however is terribly organized, all the useless shit like Magikarp should probably be moved to a "Worthless" or "NFE" tier. There's a point when something is so bad it's not even worth including in a tier. This does have problems though, like who/what decides which Pokemon get stuck in the "Really bad" tier.
Edit: On a positive note, I'd support removing or finishing that 1/4th of a bar that's showing.- TheRealPhatiman, KaynineXL, Draekyn and 1 other
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OK all u said is true and I agree but they bought cuz they wanted too.They never think that it can come back.
Some people buy these items with the intent to resell them and make a profit. Merchanting can be risky and time consuming work, not to mention annoying.
Sure one can say "They bought it because they wanted to", but you can also say that players buy shinies because they wanted to, yet the community would deem it unacceptable if tomorrow shinies were able to be bought in a shop for 200k.
These people have spent their time and money getting these items, simply saying "We're bringing this item back into the gift shop" and ruining their value would be, as Kaynine said, an uguu move.
only way i see more labcoats coming in the game without ruining its value completly, is by giving some out as prizes in tuornaments
wait, isnt it possible to find them in mystery boxes?
Tritios has a good point however, it would be cool to see these items given out for medium sized to larger events as 7-10m is probably too much for smaller ones.
This also gives the mods the ability to control how many items come into the game so that the value isn't affected.
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Note: I'm gonna try and sound as respectful as possible, so if I sound like I'm attacking your idea then that was not my intention.
What you're saying, from what taken from this thread, is that you want a limited edition item for cheaper, and that's why you want the Desu's Labcoat brought back.
What hasn't been mentioned however is the economic impact of making this item obtainable again. Everyone who did buy their Labcoat for the 7-10m is now fucked because by making it obtainable again the price is going to drop substantially(assuming it's not for some crazy high price in the Gift Shop)For reference if you've played Runescape you're probably familiar with the Partyhats: Rare items that were made available in the past, but are no longer obtainable. When Oldschool Runescape(A different version of the game) was released they decided to give these Partyhats out at every opportunity they got and because of that you can buy one with pocket change. If you compare the price of the two games, Runescape Partyhats are over 2 billion gold, whereas OSRS Partyhats are like 50 thousand gold.
A part of the reason Desu's labcoat is so sought after is because of it's rarity, and if you were to make it obtainable again that would no longer be the case. I prefer the look of the overcoat honestly, but because the Labcoat has value to it that makes it more desirable than the Overcoat in most cases. It's the same thing as shiny Pokemon, you walk around with them to show off your wealth.
tldr
by doing this suggestion you fuck over everybody except for the people who can't afford the things they want.
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Does it matter? You'll only lose time and coins from playing the slots either way.
Walrus has a point.
Even if Slot Machine X had lower odds of hitting a Jackpot than Slot Machine Y, going off of personal experience it's faster to VS seeker (or some other method) to gain money and then buy coins. Fire Reds slot machine system is shit. -
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Would you stalk my MMO facebook tho? ;x
yes
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EDIT: well thats why a "like" suggestion would work as well, where you just like the page, and just continue with the forums.
Sometimes thats all I want to do.. just to let the person know there page looks good.Leave a comment on their profile. Something along the lines of 'Hey I like your profile' does the same thing and more without requiring anything new to be added.
inb4 >but muh FacebookMMO- Spaintakula and Hassan
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PRAISE ME
Dem prediction skills
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Try relogging. Often times restarting the client will fix visual bugs.
If that doesn't work, try reinstalling the client. -
Due to a recent update a badge requirement of 4 badges has been added to the boat. Please continue through the story until you have the required number of badges, then try again~
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If by Jotho you mean Kanto, this is because you must complete the Sevii islands quest before entering Cerulean cave. A guide for that can be found here: https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/10855-guide-to-island-four-and-beyond-now-including-sapphire-walkthrough/
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Thank you for the report.
Do you happen to know what move he was trying to learn?
[Implemented] Happiness maximizer NPC
in Suggestion Archive
Posted · Edited by DaftKitteh
A "Happiness Raising" NPC exists already in the original games doesn't it?
Iirc Daisy Oak would groom your pet and it'd raise it's happiness. Not the most interesting mechanics, but it's a hell of a lot better than biking or shelling out loads of money, even if it's only a temporary fix.
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It'd be really great if we got some easy, fun or less annoying way of training Happiness. Return/Frustration are both powerful moves that a lot of Pokes could make use of, however not only is it annoying to get them to their full power but it also puts a limit on trading them due to Happiness resetting when traded.
Stuff from bulbapedia
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From: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Daisy_Oak#FireRed_and_LeafGreen
From: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_groomer
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