Popular Post Galium Posted August 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2012 If you like it then please leave a like, thanks. UPDATE: JANUARY 13, 2013. As you may or may not know, yes, I did quit. After seeing that people are still interested in this guide I am beginning to feel guilty that I have not updated it. Thank you for all the views and thanks over the months, seeing some stupid thing I typed up being received that well and just getting viewed this much blew my mind! If you're going to be in the Sevii islands use Squall's guide: Link I'd like to ask that mods consider pinning the other EV guides as well since it's a whole different game from when I played. I'd hate to just straight up delete this thread but it's probably obscenely out of date and probably should be replace by a guide that someone else has written that is up to date. You'd know better than I would about it being informative. Before you get started you may like to know what EVs actually are. EV stands for 'effort value'. 4 Evs will increase a pokemon stat by 1 point, the maximum amount of EVs in a stat is 255 but the recommended maximum is 252 so you can use the remainder points in another stat. If you want a full guide and explanation of what EVs are you should check somewhere else like bulbapedia. If you have never played pokemon competitively before and would like to learn more about sets and EV spreads then I would recommend checking out smogon. They have all you need and more on basic cookie cutter sets. (Sorry for everyone who just cringed) Also, do not make the mistake of EV training a bad natured pokemon. For example an adamant abra. If you are going to sink the time into EV training, then you need to catch a pokemon with a nature complimentary to the stats you want. For example again a timid alakazam is perfect, as you will be EV training it for SpA and Spe. Here is a link to my preferred natures chart. The - stands for a subtraction of 10% and a + represents a subtraction of 10%. As you can see if you look at the chart timid adds to speed and subtracts from attack. You can also hover your mouse over the pokemon's nature in the pokemon summary to show what it does. I don't like to rely on that, though. Sometimes it's unresponsive. This is a list of all the places to train EVs. It will tell you what pokemon will give what EVs and where to find them as well as their levels. I will ammend it as new content is released. If you see something wrong, let me know. Even I, the great and powerful Galium-sama-rama-chan-san-kun make mistakes. Also, this is not a natures or how to EV train thread. That's another show guide. You would be surprised what doesn't give the EVs you thought it would (like weedle, speed what?) The recommended pokes to train on and the best area to find them will be bolded and highlited in red. Stat Recommended Area Level of pokemon Health (HP) Fat things give HP EVs and it's no coincidence that there is a fat guy sitting next to the pond in viridian. Before surf - Caterpie. After surf - Slowpoke. The pond has only slowpoke and psyduck, so you can get some SpA while you get HP. 1 HP EV Viridian Forest Lv. 3-5 Clefairy 2 HP EVs Jigglypuff 2 HP EVs Nidoran (F) 1 HP EV Snorlax 2 HP EVs Slowpoke 1 HP EV Ditto 1 HP EV Grimer 1 HP EV 1 HP EV Viridian City (surf) Lv. 20-35 Attack (Atk) Of course slaughtering hugging super kawaii desu ne bugs with big eyes makes you stronger. Why wouldn't it? And if you're wondering "Why paras?" it's because they appear at a 100% rate in the tunnels. An alternate area is behind the safari zone warden's house in fuchsia. Fishing there will always land you a goldeen, seaking or gyarados. (Thanks Tsriel.) Watch out for the psyducks, though. If you want to keep your level low for tourneys, you need to stay at paras. 1 ATK EV Mt. Moon tunnels Lv. 5-10 Mankey 1 Atk EV Machop 1 Atk EV Machoke 2 Atk EVs Growlithe 1 Atk EV Doduo 1 Atk EV Nidoran (M) 1 Atk EV Ekans 1 Atk EV Arbok 2 Atk EVs Bellsprout 1 Atk EV Weepinbell 2 Atk EVs Gyarados 2 Atk EVs Krabby 1 Atk EV Kingler 2 Atk EVs Goldeen 1 Atk Ev Fuchsia City (fishing behind warden's house) Lv. 15-25 2 Atk Evs Fuchsia City (fishing behind warden's house) Lv. 25-30 2 Atk Evs Fuchsia City (fishing behind warden's house) Lv. 15-25 Defense (Def) ALL HAIL OUR GREAT OVERLORD, TANGELA. BY THE POWER OF TENTACLES, YOU WILL NO LONGER SUFFER THE VIRIDIAN FOREST! (for def) They appear at a 100% rate on route 21. That's RIGHT below pallet town. You need surf to get there. Metapod 2 Def EVs Kakuna 2 Def EVs Geodude 1 Def EV Onix 1 Def EV Cubone 1 Def EV Marowak 2 Def EVs Sandshrew 1 Def EV Koffing 1 Def EV Weezing 2 Def EVs Slowbro 2 Def EVs Shelder 1 Def EV 1 Def EV Route 21 Lv. 14-28 Special Attack (SpA) Special attack should only be done in one place. 2spookytower in lavender town. There is a healing spot right in the room on the 5th floor with the pokemon you will be genociding er.. ghost busting. (It's fine they're already dead). Just watch out for cubone because they give DEF and will screw up your EVs. 1 SpA Ev 2spookytower Lv. 13-19 2 SpA EVs 2spookytower Lv. 20-25 Oddish 1 SpA EV Abra 1 SpA EV Magnemite 1 SpA EV Magneton 2 SpA EVs Horsea 1 SpA EV Psyduck 1 SpA EV Special Defense (SP. Def) Good news, everyone! Venonats came way earlier than I expected and now we get to grind on those! They give 1 EV and they're pretty common to boot (30%)! But wait, there's more! Ditto also appear in the same area (and the pokemon mansion basement at a 10% rate) as venonat so you can proceed to catch those in hopes of good natures for breeding (someday). The venonats appear on routes 13, 14 and 15, I recommend going to route 15 for the tasty dittos and close proximity to the pokecenter. After you get surf you can encounter tentacools and it's much easier to grind those than it is to grind venonats. And no, you can't surf into tentacruel until post game. Drowzee 1 SpD EV Venonat 1 SpD EV Routes 13/14/15 Lv. 24-26 1 SpD EV SURF ANYWHERE Lv. 5-40 Seel 1 SpD EV Dewgong 2 SpD EV Speed (Spe) This one's easy. If you're supereffective against ground go to diglett tunnel. If you're weak to ground and will die to a dig train on route 18 and grind on the birds and rats. If you are a ground type you can go to the powerplant, just avoid the magnemite and magneton as they give SpA. You can put a level 23 pokemon in the front of your party and use one repel to only encounter dugtrio if you want. Heck, even zubat has a use sometimes. Gotta go fast. Weedle 1 Spe EV Pikachu 2 Spe EVs Voltorb 1 Spe EV Pidgey Route 1 Lv. 2-5 Spearow 1 Spe EV Route 16/17/18 Lv. 20-22 Zubat 1 Spe EV Golbat 2 Spe EVs Diglett 1 Spe EV Diglett's Cave Lv 15-22 2 Spe EVs Diglett's Cave Lv.29-31 Rattata 1 Spe EV Route 1/16/17/18 Lv. 2-4/18-22 Meowth 1 Spe EV Magikarp 1 Spe EV Vulpix 1 Spe Fearow 2 Spe Routes 16/17/18 Lv. 25-27 Raticate 2 Spe Routes 16/17/18 Lv. 23-25 Electabuzz 2 Spe Poliwag 1 Spe Poliwhirl 2 Spe Multiple EV Pokemon Seadra 1 Sp.Atk & 1 Def Muk 1 Hp & 1 Atk ToTheSkies, GokuSSGSS, ledges and 178 others 181 Link to comment
Galium Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 Saving this spot as an update thingamajigger. 8-7-12 - Added current list of pokemon and EVs. 8-8-12 - Added the recommended areas list and levels. Also cleaned up a bit. Added some not funny stuff. 8-9-12 - Added some gifs for style. Editted some areas a bit. Got hyped for sandshrew. 8-14-12 Galium dreams of sticky.mp3 8-16-12 Please, God. Guide section. 8-16-12 HUGE updates to Def and SpD sections. Now you can easily grind a wall! The metagame just got more complicated! 8-19-12 Pls desu fix surf encounter rate. 8-21-12 Added a few links for newbies and a description of what natures actually do. Minor tweaks to summaries. 9-14-12 Added some more Atk places, thanks, Tsriel. 1-13-13 The guilt was too much. Cool, I'm poplar. systematic, tinbar, Bizasaur and 16 others 19 Link to comment
Desu Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Those tags. Galium, Dixxeh and Bestfriendss 3 Link to comment
skazord Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Dem tags. Thanks for the list man. AzizFTW and Galium 2 Link to comment
Galium Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 Those tags. Dem tags. Desu pls Thanks for the list man. You're welcome! Link to comment
skazord Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You're welcome! Fail quote there. I forgive you my friend. Link to comment
SebKill Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Was wondering what to do with a level 8 abra. And how exactly do i optimize my EV-trainin? Link to comment
Alex Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Was wondering what to do with a level 8 abra. And how exactly do i optimize my EV-trainin? You could do 252 special attack from gastlys/haunters in the tower, 252 speed from digletts/dugtrios in diglett's cave, and lastly 4 HP from caterpies in the forest. Link to comment
ferryman Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You forgot ekans for Atk. Not that it's the good spot but it's there. Also you should probably make the best spots stand out (like paras 100% encounter rate). Link to comment
Schaapje Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Allow me to help you all with a list of all pokemons and the EV they give: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield Link to comment
SebKill Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 You could do 252 special attack from gastlys/haunters in the tower, 252 speed from digletts/dugtrios in diglett's cave, and lastly 4 HP from caterpies in the forest. But i level my Abra as usual, not tryin to get lowered exp for more EV? I am not sure 100% how this thing works :P Link to comment
OceanDweller Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 But i level my Abra as usual, not tryin to get lowered exp for more EV? I am not sure 100% how this thing works :P The level in which you obtain the EVs is irrelevent, it'll all be the same at lvl100. However, if you're trying to EV train for the lvl30 tourney, then yes, you do want the lowest amount of EXP possible, as you're going to be grinding A LOT. Consider switching between pokemon to spread out the EXP gain, therefore decreasing it even further. Link to comment
Galium Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 You forgot ekans for Atk. Not that it's the good spot but it's there. Also you should probably make the best spots stand out (like paras 100% encounter rate). Must have lost it when I retyped it. I planned on doing the areas yesterday but I went to sleep. Link to comment
Galium Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Allow me to help you all with a list of all pokemons and the EV they give: http://bulbapedia.bu...ort_value_yield Thank you but i already had it. I think a list with these areas and levels is more convenient. Link to comment
Nippa Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 O-Onii-chan is so helpful, even when his Pokemon are awful! :3 Link to comment
JaeHwa Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Should update SpD training with Venonats Link to comment
Galium Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Should update SpD training with Venonats Oh, I plan on it, thanks. Just busy today, my monitor died and i gotta get a new one. I'll update it today. Link to comment
mclemente Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hey, Galium, I just created the EV Training List to the wikia to help you on keeping this updated, as anyone can add info to it and, different from the Bulbapedia one, giving area and levels for players, etc, hope that'll help you. Link to comment
Galium Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Hey, Galium, I just created the EV Training List to the wikia to help you on keeping this updated, as anyone can add info to it and, different from the Bulbapedia one, giving area and levels for players, etc, hope that'll help you. Oh, nice. I will look at it right now. Just got my new monitor working, thanks. Link to comment
ggnore Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 You may or may not find this useful, http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/ev_frlg Link to comment
Galium Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 You may or may not find this useful, http://www.smogon.co.../guides/ev_frlg Not at the time. We don't have all the content open to us yet. I personally prefer grinding on wild pokes for EVs. Thank you, though. I will mention smogon for people who have no idea how to competitive pokemon. I was meaning to, I guess now is as good as ever. Link to comment
jertagadlafrata Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 This list is informative and easy to follow. Very good work. My only suggestion is for the speed section. Magikarp can be encountered faster than biking through grass and can be one shot by Pokemon from a low level, making them an ideal place to speed EV training something freshly caught. You don't have to deal with Pokemon that don't give speed while training on them as well. I could understand not highlighting them due to very low experience, though. Link to comment
Blastoise Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 is there going to be the berries that decrease ev? i kinda fked up some evs lol Link to comment
Galium Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 This list is informative and easy to follow. Very good work. My only suggestion is for the speed section. Magikarp can be encountered faster than biking through grass and can be one shot by Pokemon from a low level, making them an ideal place to speed EV training something freshly caught. You don't have to deal with Pokemon that don't give speed while training on them as well. I could understand not highlighting them due to very low experience, though. Nail on the head. I prefer actually switching out a weak pokemon at a higher level place and getting loads O' Exp, myself. is there going to be the berries that decrease ev? i kinda fked up some evs lol They are planned for release as far as I know. (I've also fallen asleep while grinding and accidentally killed some zubats...) Link to comment
Patrick Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 This should be stickied. Very useful. Link to comment
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