Bestfriends Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Edited November 24, 2016 by Bestfriends Updated URL Link to comment
bigbangattack Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Awesome on loading that bro we def need more tournys on YouTube Link to comment
Rendiz Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) 1. Move Kingdra to B+. In my opinion it has many weapons, but unfortunately it just doesn't have the hitting power in Doubles to be A+ or even A. I'm speaking mostly on the Dragon Dance set. As for the Rain Dance set, Kingdra will either have to rely on Surf or Hydro Pump as a primary STAB. Both of which are powerful options in the Rain, but unfortunately Surf strikes your teammate and Hydro Pump's accuracy is unreliable. I believe these to be the primary reasons why Kingdra is seeing little usage in doubles and this is why I suggest we move it down to B+. I'm not a doubles expert but I think it deserves at least A. I used it in 4/5 rounds in yesterdays official with good success each time. I guess people just don't like rain dance teams as they can be easily countered (hidden bracket OP). Edited August 12, 2015 by Rendiz PandaJJ 1 Link to comment
Noad Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Usage August's Double Trouble Blindman's Bluff Arimanius, DoubleJ and Tritios 3 Link to comment
bigbangattack Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Who used a metang in blind man's bluff lol Link to comment
PandaJJ Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 From the changelog: "The Sandstorm weather effect now grants a 50% SPDEF Boost to Rock-types" Can we discuss tyranitar's new placement? I'm not sure if this bumps it up to A rank, but it should certainly be B+ now. Arimanius, Robofiend, DoubleJ and 1 other 4 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Yeah I'd say its worth moving up, prob can tank some decent hits now, and help aerodactyl take hits also. PandaJJ 1 Link to comment
Rendiz Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Who used a metang in blind man's bluff lol wutlol used an entire team of NUs Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 lmao 252 SpA Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Aerodactyl in Sand: 122-146 (78.7 - 94.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 SpA Ludicolo Surf vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Aerodactyl in Sand: 66-78 (42.5 - 50.3%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO aerodactyl is the bulk god and so is rhydon 252 SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 188 HP / 0 SpD Rhydon in Sand: 90-106 (44.1 - 51.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Ludicolo Surf vs. 188 HP / 0 SpD Rhydon in Sand: 184-220 (90.1 - 107.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO and for the fun of it 252 SpA Starmie Surf vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Shuckle in Sand: 26-32 (20.6 - 25.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery shuckle is the true god Kizhaz and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 rip anything that relied on explosion to support team 252+ Atk Gengar Explosion vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 133-157 (36.7 - 43.3%) -- 99.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery gbwead 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted September 9, 2015 Author Share Posted September 9, 2015 rip anything that relied on explosion to support team 252+ Atk Gengar Explosion vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blissey: 133-157 (36.7 - 43.3%) -- 99.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Explosion was nerfed? Link to comment
bigbangattack Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Yes it was I lost a battle to sparkie bc of it the other day lol probably for the best though boom teams were getting old and I think it's still effective with some pokes Link to comment
bigbangattack Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Just ran some quick calcs boomlax still viable but you gotta play smarter now of course pokes like gengar are no longer explodable maybe we can start to see a stronger doubles meta and more set ups now dynamite isn't a possibility every turn Link to comment
Tritios Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Explosion was nerfed? You might have seen this already, but anyway here it is https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/56966-explosion-has-been-nerfed/ Link to comment
Toast Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 do we have any recent usage stats for doubles? Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 not for the last two tournaments, or at least they weren't provided. Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 Update: After a long hiatus, this thread has finally been revived and updated with available usage. The last update was performed on July 14, 2015 and we were provided with usage from four doubles tournaments since then. Those tournaments include: July's Double Trouble Weekend (7.24.15) July Team Tournament (7.25.15) Blind Man's Bluff 2 (8.11.15) Double Trouble 4 (8.29.15) We are currently missing usage from the following events: Team Tournament October Double Trouble 5 Double Trouble November Noteworthy changes, Metagross has gone from 63% usage to 70.1% usage in these past four tournaments. Aside from this there hasn't been many other notable changes, aside from Kingdra getting a 3% usage boost and Jolteon jumping up to 27.2% usage. Link to comment
OldKeith Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Nice to see breloom making an appearance in the rankings. I am still using one in RL tournaments :D DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Kingdra 4 GOAT Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Typing is pretty OG leaving it with only one weakness and it can ohko the pokemon with dragon moves with ice beam usually (unless opposing kingdra). Requires somewhat of a specific team set up though, requiring turns for rain dance, team mates that can benefit from rain dance, team mates that can take a surf, etc. I wouldn't say its S rank though due to the amount of support it requires and the amount it relies on match up to be effective. For example, I ran ludicolo and blissey and easily got past dual kingdra+ludicolo combo, or others run enough offense to prevent kingdra from setting up rain like the gyarados/manectric teams. Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Ya it's really a great support poke if there is such a thing in doubles. Just hoping it rises above that pitiful 9% or whatever usage Link to comment
MuhQOppa Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Doubles here seems like perfect for a big fan of vgc who started playing vgc on 6th gen, since I can experience the older generation doubles, this is not the same meta that there has been but mix of few of those, still really interesting and I think definitely worth it. Time to start grinding and breeding for the team I guess. gbwead, DoubleJ and DrCraig 3 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share Posted December 5, 2015 Doubles here seems like perfect for a big fan of vgc who started playing vgc on 6th gen, since I can experience the older generation doubles, this is not the same meta that there has been but mix of few of those, still really interesting and I think definitely worth it. Time to start grinding and breeding for the team I guess. Love this mentality Link to comment
Artemiseta Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 clefable to B or B+ excelent support able to protect follow me and helping hand and softboil if it so chooses. switch rhydon and wak both are still be but waks lack of steel weakness and lack of 4x effective moves puts it a bit above drop kanga to rank A or lower its jsut not as effective as one would think fake out for the flinch is good but after turn one you are forced to switcha round and that ends up being detrimental to your tema. its harder to take adantage of its ability and walling capabilities in doubles. hitmontop is better than kanga. better ability, better support moves, beter walling (able ot check/coutner ttar and limit seeral other sweeping threaats with intimidate). gbwead and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
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