Herpetology

Congratulations Kili.

IGN: Cheels

[color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] Gyarados[/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [color=rgb(0,0,0)][font='times new roman'][size=3][background=transparent]Reversal Sweeper:[/background][/size][/font][/color][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Item: Liechi Berry[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Nature:Jolly[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Ivs and Evs: Jolly should hit a speed of 134 to outspeed 200 speed tier after a dragon dance. Max out attack and stick the rest in HP, but make sure the HP is not divisible by 4. [/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Movesets:[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][list] [*] [size=3][font='times new roman']Dragon Dance[/font][/size] [*] [size=3][font='times new roman']Substitute[/font][/size] [*] [size=3][font='times new roman']Hp Flying[/font][/size] [*] [size=3][font='times new roman']Reversal/Flail[/font][/size] [/list] [size=3][font='times new roman']That'll give the same coverage that got Dragonite banned in the first place (fighting/flying). It takes some setting up but as long as their Dragonite is dead and can't extremspeed, it's hard to stop. I guess you can figure out what counters it (Weezing comes to mind?). I just thought I'd mention it.[/font][/size] Gengar [size=3]Explosion[/size][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Item: Lum Berry[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Nature: Hasty/Naive[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Ivs and Evs: 252 Atk, hit 168 Speed , rest in Satk. [/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Moveset:[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][list] [*] [size=3]Explosion[/size] [*] [size=3]Will-O-Wisp/Giga Drain/Psychic[/size] [*] [size=3][font='times new roman']Thunderbolt[/font][/size] [*] [size=3][font='times new roman']Ice Punch[/font][/size] [/list][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman']That'll provide coverage against the dual dragon core, as well as Skarmory/Vaporeon (two common things stopping YOUR dual dragon core). The Will-O-Wisp is useful for burning Snorlaxes and other slower attackers. Even if they have an aromatherapy/heal bell user, it forces them to play predictable in order to salvage their physical attackers once they're burned. The explosion is for anything really, ideally blow up on a special wall and come in with something like Starmie to sweep the rest of the team.[/font][/size][/font] [color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] Side Note: The baton pass sets should probably have tags added to them mentioning that BP is banned, as it likely won't be coming back at all.[/font][/color] [color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] Vaporeon[/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Tank[/background][/color][/font][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Item: Leftovers[/background][/color][/font][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Nature: Bold[/background][/color][/font][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Ivs and Evs: 252 Hp, 252 Defense, 4 Speed[/background][/color][/font][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Moveset:[/background][/color][/font][/font][/color][list] [*] [font='times new roman']Wish[/font] [*] [font='times new roman']Ice Beam[/font] [*] [font='times new roman']Protect[/font] [*] Heal Bell/HP Electric/Toxic [/list] Standard Vaporeon set for support and walling the dual dragon core, as well as Aerodactyl. With the return of Snorlax, heal bell Vaporeon allows you to retain the effect of Blissey's most attractive attribute (aromatherapy) without having to actually run one. The Pokemon that immediately springs to mind that could mess this up is Magneton, it resists the ice beams and could set up on this set. On top of that I'd say Snorlax, Starmie, Ludicolo (though it has dropped in usage since the rain dance ban), and Venusaur could easily mess this set up. [color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] Scizor[/font][/color] [size=3]CB Scizor[/size][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Item: Choice Band[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Nature: Adamant[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Ivs and Evs: 252 Atk, 252 Speed.[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][color=rgb(40,40,40)][font=helvetica] [size=3][font='times new roman'][color=rgb(0,0,0)][background=transparent]Moveset:[/background][/color][/font][/size][/font][/color][list] [*] [size=3]Superpower[/size] [*] [size=3]Double Edge[/size] [*] [size=3]HP Ghost/HP Rock[/size] [*] [size=3]Quick Attack/Silver Wind[/size] [/list] [size=3]I never understood the infatuation that people have with HP rock, other than Aerodactyl (which is OHKO'd by superpower), it only affords you 20 more power over double edge on flying Pokemon such as Salamence/Gyarados/Dragonite. It's preferable to have coverage against Gengar/Dusclops or else you'll be completely walled by ghost AND steel types, as opposed to just the latter. Counters include Skarmory/Weezing/Forretress and likely more.[/size] [size=3]The speed investment is primarily because there will be an inevitable speed creep in Magnetons. The current Magneton speed average is about 110 and it'll likely keep going up as more people try to one-up eachother. Full speed simply cuts to the chase and gives Scizor the maximum opportunity to kill an HP Fire Magneton that is attempting to trap it. Unless the HP evs are truly serving a purpose in a calculation, it's just best to go full speed investment.[/size] [size=4]My last thoughts for now, since I haven't eaten today, are as follows:[/size] [size=4]The Houndoom set should have the option of super fang in one of the moveslots. This allows it to put a huge dent into the common Vaporeon/Snorlax switch ins. Allowing your physical attackers which Vaporeon might counter to sweep through it later.[/size] [size=4]I suppose the trickband set for Alakazam should be added, never used so I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about there.[/size] [size=4]Lastly, given Dragonite's new access to superpower, the subpunch set is kind of antiquated. I'd say you're better off using a pseudo-mixmence set on it. Something like Fire Blast/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt/Superpower.[/size] [size=4]I trust you'll be able to word all of this stuff the way the rest of the guide is worded if you choose to include anything I've suggested. I was merely giving some thoughts while I waited for an egg to hatch.[/size]

Finally, someone who gets it. Are you single?

Firing shots where I'm not involved again I see.

I wanted you to stop needlessly mentioning me for no reason in threads I hadn't said anything in. Plus, I'm saying what I see wrong with the situation, not flaming you.

I suppose the most messed up thing about the situation is that if JSTUD had won, all the people JJ refused to pay would have paid. It was impossible for him to lose anything. Now he can just do the same thing on forum alts and abuse the system.

I'm kind of curious, what was the explanation? (inb4 people flame me for wanting to know)

IGN: Cheels

IGN: Jayfeatskydd

You could just accomplish this by adding the moveslot into the displayed moves and move them with the same arrows that you manipulate the other moves with. That way if you want to switch out, you just have to click the usual arrows until your chosen move is in the first four and the one you choose to take out is in the fifth. -image removed-

This system would especially help preserve things like egg moves and moves bought with BP in the first place. 100% support.

Ah, seems like a bit of a waste.

Why was BurntZebra played in ADV OU?

The point of my rhetorical question was to imply that I don't coach people, so your post looks pretty stupid right now. Also, my first post was to say something along the lines of "leave me out of it" since I never asked to be brought into this shitstorm. Lastly, I'm well within my rights to question Bowser's skill in the current OU meta given that he hasn't done anything in it since the update. It's called the burden of proof, something you should really understand by now. I'll give you a tl;dr since you're obviously incapable of basic reading comprehension. tl;dr: Go back to crying in the Aerodactyl auction thread

Give me some credit man, just a little.

It's like the World Cup, not like anyone takes it too seriously.

xkuroy and zetban are not what I'd call "good" at OU (no offense to them) and Zebra isn't exactly a dominant presence in OU either (though I admit he's spread through all the tiers as opposed to one which is likely very difficult). I lend competitive Pokemon to Jay, TJ, and really anyone who asks. I refrain from coaching because it's annoying as hell for me and I don't like doing it, nor does Jay need it. Edit: I hatch eggs in viridian and spectate any player who I recognize to take time off the egg counter, trust me it's not because I'm actually watching you battle. I'm sorry that it makes you feel uncomfortable.

First of all, I likely won't even be online. Also, unless I'm way off here, I haven't communicated in any way with you since your embarrassing topic on trying to make the current OU meta look like the one you were good at fixing the OU meta. Having said that, are you really in a position to make statements like that? You've done one OU battle (as an individual, we won't go into your easy path to victory in the last TT along with your crowdsourcing) since the update and got beaten by someone who isn't even PoAu's OU representative. And for a final thought, if I'm so bad, then why does JJ feel the need to say that I "coach all the PoAu members" when arguing with Lion? You pay a lot of attention to me given how insignificant you say I am. http://pokemmostaff.challonge.com/battleofthetiers tl;dr: Leave me alone bud, and try to not pick one sentence of my reply and focus on that like you always do. Have to see the big picture man.

Good luck with the guide man, looking forward to the new sets. Now that I've made all the OUs, I'll be using this guide to make some UUs too. Oh and on a side note, Nidoking is coming back to UU in a few days. By the divine decree of Senile.

IGN: Daniellegal

Get your Snorlax ready kids.

http://challonge.com/augOUmasters Since no one posted a reply, I'll do it. Jay won the OU masters.

It's mostly filled with everyone bitching about whatever they're breeding at the time.