Tranzmaster Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 This tournament is restricted to pokemon that have a usage below 20% according to the Round 1 Usage Statistics for March. (Note in the Banlist that Chansey is also banned) Details: 32 Players 32 Reserves 6v6 Tournament Single Battle Level 50 Date + Time: Date: Thursday 10th AprilTime: 4:00 PM EDT | 1:00 PM PDT | 8:00 PM GMT BRACKET Reserves List [spoiler]soniczen yettodie Gudulberthe NataliaHeart TheChampionMike BikerASH JSTUD forfiter pel Rigamorty Raptori augustred Amanu Barrage easyrole Javess JoosEAnngeL Goldeneyes Goticsel CamGambino Kevola Daniellegal Tobiass Shiigo Namikazeyondaime NightwingX Pokennon TxusdOz precedence Flandrau WallDisney Eggplant kallbaynne [/spoiler] Registration:Date: Sunday 6th AprilTime: 4:00 PM EDT | 1:00 PM PDT | 8:00 PM GMT Location: Silph CO, Channel 7Clauses: Sleep/OHKO/Pristine/Species/Hax Item/Evasion/Bag Item/Time/Self KOList of Clauses and what they meanBanned Moves: Hyper Beam Banned Pokemon: Wobbuffet Snorlax Salamence Starmie Blissey Vaporeon Jolteon Dugtrio Marowak Skarmory Gengar Claydol Tyranitar Chansey Prize: 1st: Shiny Machop 2nd: 500 RP Registration Method: Post your IGN in this thread once registration has occurred. I will allow two sign ups per forum account, given they are in different posts. Test posting in this thread will result in being unable to participate in the tournament. Please only sign up players who have asked you to in order to prevent any confusion the day of the tournament. Registration is based on Forum Time. Registration will be first come, first serve. If you are on the bracket for this tournament and cannot attend please send me a PM, or post in the thread letting me know you cannot make it, this lessens the time it takes for signs ups the day of the tournament. Thanks in advance. Notes: Do not AFK Timeout your opponent unless your referee has stated you may. Disconnecting during a match will result in a DQ. Do not block your opponents, or the Staff running the Event. If there is evidence of this and disregarding staff requesting you to unblock said individuals you will be DQ'd. Volpi Clause (requesting to change channels for your matches) will not be allowed for this tournament. Entrants are encouraged to uncheck "Render Overworld in Battle". (Menu -> Settings -> Video). Tournament Mode must be used for all duels. Diogoalves, fredrichnietze, OrangeManiac and 8 others 11 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 sooo... [spoiler] claydol weezing dusklops breloom kingdra espeon heracross dragonite exeggutor arcanine aerodactyl venasaur hariyanma scizor alakazam ludicolo machamp gyrados ursaring charizard smeargle umbreon crobat lapras slowbro houndoom kangaskhan jumpluff jynx slowking tauros + all uu's + all nu's [/spoiler] this? Link to comment
SirGaryOak Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Looks cool :) Just to make sure, it's everything not on the banlist right? It's not like it needs to be on the percentage list right? This is kinda self-explanatory and I expect it to be like that, but I just wanted to make sure :P Link to comment
Tranzmaster Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 sooo... [spoiler] claydol weezing dusklops breloom kingdra espeon heracross dragonite exeggutor arcanine aerodactyl venasaur hariyanma scizor alakazam ludicolo machamp gyrados ursaring charizard smeargle umbreon crobat lapras slowbro houndoom kangaskhan jumpluff jynx slowking tauros + all uu's + all nu's [/spoiler] this? Banned Pokemon: Wobbuffet Snorlax Salamence Starmie Blissey Vaporeon Jolteon Dugtrio Marowak Skarmory Gengar Claydol Tyranitar Chansey Every Pokemon that is not in the banned pokemon list from the OP is allowed. SirGaryOak 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I can still use the team I usually play with. #hipsterforlife Link to comment
Archinix Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Tranz I hate your new profile pic, change it back Also nice tourney Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 the old one was cooler Link to comment
Orangeslash Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 winner gets to pick tranz's profile pic G0dPower, patrouski, RysPicz and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Rigamorty Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Looks fun, hopefully I won't have to work that day Link to comment
RysPicz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 winner gets to pick tranz's profile pic I'd love to see Tranz's ava as justin bieber or miley cyrus [spoiler]am I too cruel?[/spoiler] Link to comment
Barrage Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Whoaaa where is the dragonite ban?!? Link to comment
Emlee Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Tranz, why are you so obsessed with shiny machop? Like sheeeush. [spoiler] Cool tournament though ;D[/spoiler] Diogoalves 1 Link to comment
Tranzmaster Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Whoaaa where is the dragonite ban?!? Interesting point. On one hand: Yes, Dragonite would be a big threat to this tournament. It's S-rank, has sweeping powers, Sub/punch/bolt/beam, Mixed attacker,... On the other hand, looking at the purpose of the event (aside from the obvious purpose: player enjoyment): A tournament for the pokemon in OU with relatively low usage. So players will perhaps have to do an effort to breed other comps because they used 3-4 of the pokemon in the banlist now. Eventually, they will participate, see that one of their Pokemon actually is better then they expected. After the tournament, they will have had a new experience, and some thoughts about their Pokemon they might have not used before this tournament. Perhaps they might enter the next tournament with one of them. So maybe, but this is a wild assumption, this could help making the OU metagame less centralizing, by giving Pokemon with low usage a chance to shine. From that perspective, I have my doubts on banning Dragonite. I think it kinda goes against the mindset of the tournament from that perspective. I'm not saying you're wrong though. However, looking at possible checks/counters, Rain Dance teams (Kingdra and Ludicolo). Alakazam is a check as well with Ice Punch on some Dragonites depending on their build, and can come in on a predicted special attack. Weezing and Slowbro aren't bad against it either. And a lot of Pokemon tend to pack HP Ice. It's not that the entire tournament is broken because Dragonite is in it. PS: The reason for the Chansey ban is Blissey incase you're wondering. Tranz, why are you so obsessed with shiny machop? Like sheeeush. [spoiler] Cool tournament though ;D[/spoiler] Oh, I didn't even cross my mind that I gave one in my latest Spontaneous, I only check for previous prizes in Official Tournaments. I don't think it matters though. In fact it has never been given out in an Official Tournament, and Machop needed some love, so. ;) I'd love to see Tranz's ava as justin bieber or miley cyrus [spoiler]am I too cruel?[/spoiler] Thanks for proving Orangeslash why that would be a bad idea ;) JSTUD 1 Link to comment
Archinix Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Ty for changing it back, much appreciated =] Link to comment
Barrage Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Interesting point. On one hand: Yes, Dragonite would be a big threat to this tournament. It's S-rank, has sweeping powers, Sub/punch/bolt/beam, Mixed attacker,... On the other hand, looking at the purpose of the event (aside from the obvious purpose: player enjoyment): A tournament for the pokemon in OU with relatively low usage. So players will perhaps have to do an effort to breed other comps because they used 3-4 of the pokemon in the banlist now. Eventually, they will participate, see that one of their Pokemon actually is better then they expected. After the tournament, they will have had a new experience, and some thoughts about their Pokemon they might have not used before this tournament. Perhaps they might enter the next tournament with one of them. So maybe, but this is a wild assumption, this could help making the OU metagame less centralizing, by giving Pokemon with low usage a chance to shine. From that perspective, I have my doubts on banning Dragonite. I think it kinda goes against the mindset of the tournament from that perspective. I'm not saying you're wrong though. However, looking at possible checks/counters, Rain Dance teams (Kingdra and Ludicolo). Alakazam is a check as well with Ice Punch on some Dragonites depending on their build, and can come in on a predicted special attack. Weezing and Slowbro aren't bad against it either. And a lot of Pokemon tend to pack HP Ice. It's not that the entire tournament is broken because Dragonite is in it. Tyranitar's ban will mean a huge rise in Dragonite's usage. I suspect this will become one of the most used Pokemon very shortly due to its incredible wall breaking capabilities. Also I notice Dugtrio is very heavily used, and Dragonite is one Pokemon that can escape its wrath. IMO Dragonite is not a BL Pokemon, but I guess it is not used in PokeMMO. Remember that some time ago we forewent usage statistics and based these things on judgment of power alone, but I notice you are not sticking to that. Link to comment
Tranzmaster Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Remember that some time ago we forewent usage statistics and based these things on judgment of power alone, but I notice you are not sticking to that. I think you're misunderstanding the concept of this event. It holds no relevance to tiering. This isn't BL as a tier, it's just to let lower used Pokemon have a chance to shine. This tournament is a gimmick. There is no implication to tiering at all. JSTUD and KingBowser 2 Link to comment
Barrage Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I think you're misunderstanding the concept of this event. It holds no relevance to tiering. This isn't BL as a tier, it's just to let lower used Pokemon have a chance to shine. This tournament is a gimmick. There is no implication to tiering at all. BL is a pseudo-tier determined strictly based on strength, even by smogon's definition. They are Pokemon who are strong but not strong enough to shine in OU. Dragonite does NOT fit this definition. Maybe you should have called the tournament "OU underdogs" or something if this is what you wanted. Maybe I'm just paying too much attention to semantics though. Link to comment
Tranzmaster Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 BL is a pseudo-tier determined strictly based on strength, even by smogon's definition. They are Pokemon who are strong but not strong enough to shine in OU. Dragonite does NOT fit this definition. Maybe you should have called the tournament "OU underdogs" or something if this is what you wanted. Maybe I'm just paying too much attention to semantics though. Perhaps a better name should have been used in hindsight. I'm sorry for the confusion. Dragonite is definately not BL as how a BL tier would work, I agree. Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Would chansey be too powerful? many of the counters for blissey are in this such as machamp, breloom, dragonite (eh sort of), dusclops, kangaskhan, scizor (if no fire move on chansey), heracross and physical attackers in general as chansey only has 35 base special attack Link to comment
Emlee Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Oh, I didn't even cross my mind that I gave one in my latest Spontaneous, I only check for previous prizes in Official Tournaments. I don't think it matters though. In fact it has never been given out in an Official Tournament, and Machop needed some love, so. ;) I totally thought you gave one out for your first Spontaneous tournament too... but yes, Machop deserves some love :) Link to comment
Rigamorty Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Looks fun, hopefully I won't have to work that day next week's schedule is now up, and i do have to work that day... [spoiler]But i work 10a-2p, so i should be able to make it \o/[/spoiler] Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 tranz +1 on your sig ^^ also dnite really should be A ranked. sure once it gets a sub off it is really hard to kill without losing a poke or two but practically the only thing dnite can switch in safely against is umbreon and only if no toxic that turn. Link to comment
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