LifeStyle Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 252+ Atk Choice Band Tauros Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 90-106 (52.3 - 61.6%) -- 98% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Tauros Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 60-72 (34.8 - 41.8%) -- 81.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Link to comment
R3TR0NIX Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Is Curse Swampert with Impish Nature viable by any chance? Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Is Curse Swampert with Impish Nature viable by any chance? imo Careful>Impish if you're running curse Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 252+ Atk Choice Band Tauros Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 90-106 (52.3 - 61.6%) -- 98% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Tauros Double-Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Weezing: 60-72 (34.8 - 41.8%) -- 81.3% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery bro they just said scarfed taurus doesn't expect to beat walls lmao, it's used to KO the sweepers TheArchon, FNTCZ and Arimanius 3 Link to comment
LifeStyle Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 bro they just said scarfed taurus doesn't expect to beat walls lmao, it's used to KO the sweepers no u same Link to comment
TheArchon Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) no u same This guy Edited April 27, 2016 by TheArchon BlackJovi 1 Link to comment
TheArchon Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Is Curse Swampert with Impish Nature viable by any chance? Yes Link to comment
ShadowGary Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Is Curse Swampert with Impish Nature viable by any chance? It's Viable, but literally any Grass-type move(Talking about Venusaur's/Ludi's that are so common with Giga or HP Grass from Jolt/Magneton) will 1hko you, unless 252 SpDef which will still take like 90% damage. It's more of a thing to tear down wall teams that only have a little bit of offense.. Edited April 27, 2016 by ShadowGary Link to comment
R3TR0NIX Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Should I breed further for Careful nature then? (rip cash), and I want to ask what are the pros and cons for having impish nature with curse instead of careful nature for swampert Link to comment
Phryme Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 (edited) Should I breed further for Careful nature then? (rip cash), and I want to ask what are the pros and cons for having impish nature with curse instead of careful nature for swampert Not imo. The issue with the grass moves isnt the whole SpDef thing, its the fact that its a 4x weakness which sucks in any situation. Just watch out for grass moves and you should be fine. Edited April 27, 2016 by Phryme Link to comment
Spaintakula Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 bro they just said scarfed taurus doesn't expect to beat walls lmao, it's used to KO the sweepers Which ones? :] Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Which ones? :] jolteon, aero, nik said FNTCZ 1 Link to comment
FNTCZ Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 [spoiler][/spoiler] If it's a thing in later gens why can't we use it in our weird meta?. we are shifting away from wall spaming to damage powerhouses, some of which outspeed and KO the classical tauros, those, also take recoil damage from life orb, making bandless Tauros KOs easier. so yeah, it isn't that bad imo BlackJovi 1 Link to comment
Spaintakula Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 jolteon, aero, nik said That's actually a bad example on what "killing a sweeper" is. Iron tail sucks with it's accuracy and rock slide doesn't KO aero, so you don't get too much of it 252 Atk Aerodactyl Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tauros: 111-132 (38.1 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252 SpA Life Orb Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tauros: 230-270 (79 - 92.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tauros: 262-310 (90 - 106.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO Better examples would be shit like what, agiligross, salac users and uhhh I can't think of what else I'm really tired, but yeah Link to comment
NikhilR Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 That's actually a bad example on what "killing a sweeper" is. Iron tail sucks with it's accuracy and rock slide doesn't KO aero, so you don't get too much of it 252 Atk Aerodactyl Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tauros: 111-132 (38.1 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252 SpA Life Orb Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tauros: 230-270 (79 - 92.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tauros: 262-310 (90 - 106.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO Better examples would be shit like what, agiligross, salac users and uhhh I can't think of what else I'm really tired, but yeah Tauros doesn't get Rock Slide here, so your only option is to run Iron Tail. Double Edge / Iron Tail / Earthquake / Pursuit Scarf has become popular with the likes of Flygon / Heracross / Metagross making good use of it and our meta is somewhat shifting more towards the offensive side, so it's always good to have a pokemon is faster than all of your opponent's. Maybe the spread could be changed to 252 attk / speed, but imo it's still a good pokemon to use. Link to comment
Spaintakula Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 [spoiler][/spoiler] If it's a thing in later gens why can't we use it in our weird meta?. we are shifting away from wall spaming to damage powerhouses, some of which outspeed and KO the classical tauros, those, also take recoil damage from life orb, making bandless Tauros KOs easier. so yeah, it isn't that bad imo Because in later gens, it isn't OU, as you can see, it's "RU". Meaning scarf actually has some use and can KO what it's supposed to. Tauros doesn't get Rock Slide here, so your only option is to run Iron Tail. Double Edge / Iron Tail / Earthquake / Pursuit Scarf has become popular with the likes of Flygon / Heracross / Metagross making good use of it and our meta is somewhat shifting more towards the offensive side, so it's always good to have a pokemon is faster than all of your opponent's. Maybe the spread could be changed to 252 attk / speed, but imo it's still a good pokemon to use. Again, as I said, it's kinda ehh relying on iron tail, and are you really gonna say there isn't a better scarf choice that'd get the same job that you mentioned done even better? Link to comment
NikhilR Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) Again, as I said, it's kinda ehh relying on iron tail, and are you really gonna say there isn't a better scarf choice that'd get the same job that you mentioned done even better? Nah I definitely agree with you about iron tail accuracy, but Tauros has its own advantages as a scarf user as it forces switches out with intimidate. Most scarf users like Hera could still stay in on a banded version if they're locked onto a fighting stab and a scarf on Tauros could nab a surprise KO. I'm sure there can be better scarf users, but Tauros can find its place in a well built team. Edited April 29, 2016 by NikhilR Arimanius, GBush and Spaintakula 3 Link to comment
Bigpokemonfan Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 This is for GBush. What's CM stands for? I was thinking CM meant 'counter measure' for this thread. In the future, please use the words like choice band instead of CB? Link to comment
Phryme Posted May 6, 2016 Share Posted May 6, 2016 On 5/5/2016 at 4:57 PM, Bigpokemonfan said: This is for GBush. What's CM stands for? I was thinking CM meant 'counter measure' for this thread. In the future, please use the words like choice band instead of CB? Calm Mind, pretty sure Link to comment
GBush Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 On 5/5/2016 at 2:57 PM, Bigpokemonfan said: This is for GBush. What's CM stands for? I was thinking CM meant 'counter measure' for this thread. In the future, please use the words like choice band instead of CB? Stands for Calm Mind and will try to cut down on the abbreviations in here. Link to comment
netsky4life Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 Awesome guide, much appreciated Link to comment
Yweth Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 You can make a Snorlax guide? He is already in OU and I don't know which moveset I should choose Link to comment
Gruul Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yweth said: You can make a Snorlax guide? He is already in OU and I don't know which moveset I should choose These two links might help you with your choice, including some discussion/theorycrafting about moveset choices and natures :-) As for movesets, I got an advice for Curselax with Body Slam, Fire Punch, Curse, and Rest with Thick Fat (Leftovers). CB-Lax with Double-Edge, Crunch/Pursuit, Earthquake, Fire Punch (Choice Band). (Credits to DoubleJ) If you still feel unsecure, you can wait for an update here too of course :) Edited May 13, 2016 by Gruul GBush and Yweth 2 Link to comment
netsky4life Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 what build do you guys use on snorlax? Link to comment
GBush Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 42 minutes ago, netsky4life said: what build do you guys use on snorlax? If using curse lax I would use something like; 188 Attack, 188 Sp Def, + Rest in Def. Careful or Adamant nature depending on what you want to do with it. Remember its HP stat is huge so only invest fully into that if you want it your dedicated special wall. I will put up some sets when I think of them. Generally you can build lots of different laxes and I will get back to this soon. Link to comment
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