Gunthug Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 the people that arent going to show up and play arent going to show up and play no matter what we do. the people who are going to show up and play are going to clear enough time so they can play for a while in case of delays, stall wars, ect... you are insinuating that best/3 will increase the number of no shows, but there is no evidence. nothng besides "i think that's how it'd work". however, in vgc best/3 was actually done. i went through the threads and only 2 were labeled "no contest" and one match labeled "no show short of" out of the 27 (or 81 depending on how you count best/3). now there could of been more where one player was awarded winner with nothing in op to show, however if you care that much have fun re reading thousands of post cause im not going to. what these results seem to imply is best/3 matches have the same or better show up ratio then the other tiers, however not enough data for it to be a fact. lol fred, the pokemmo tiers like OU and UU would require a MUCH larger time commitment than VGC. Shit, individual OU matches often last for an hour. You're talking the possibility of 2-3 hours a week just for one category. Are you gonna do all that at one time? Will you break it up if someone has to run after match 2? Then you gotta schedule another match, finding time that fits both players' schedules - sounds like an enormous hassle that you're advocating for just because you got haxed. You've got your salt blinders on, man, this isn't rocket science Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 lol fred, the pokemmo tiers like OU and UU would require a MUCH larger time commitment than VGC. Shit, individual OU matches often last for an hour. You're talking the possibility of 2-3 hours a week just for one category. Are you gonna do all that at one time? Will you break it up if someone has to run after match 2? Then you gotta schedule another match, finding time that fits both players' schedules - sounds like an enormous hassle that you're advocating for just because you got haxed. You've got your salt blinders on, man, this isn't rocket science OU/UU can sometimes take an hour or more. but this is not the norm. most matches take a average of 15-20 minutes. since literally every comp player plays tourneys which are generally 32 man meaning 5 rounds or 5 matches long, your argument "two pokemmo players cant clear 1-3 hours a week to play pokemmo" seems somewhat flawed. especially since hundreds of hours go into making the comp teams in the first place. as for "salt blinders" this isnt even originally my idea. jj suggested it months ago https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/14180-event-suggestions-feedback/?p=1035292 and even then he got it form someone else. many people including you https://forums.pokemmo.eu/index.php?/topic/14180-event-suggestions-feedback/?p=1036363 said it was a good idea. before the first psl match i said "hey lets do this". i have literally been saying this all season. there is no reason not to do this and there was no reason not to have been doing this. Link to comment
ThinkNice Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) This applies to any tier: There are reasons. The simple time investment it takes is enough of a reason. Not only does it mean players will take around 1-2 hours to play all their 3 matches, it also means they have to find a time to play 3 matches which is way harder than finding a timeframe to play 1 match. You're also acting like PSL is the only thing people will be doing when they log on. Some people only have a few hours a week to play the game, if they have to sacrifice half of that for the PSL it isn't that fun anymore. Not only that but this is a big tournament. You're not the only one on your team playing. If you get haxed, chances are one of your teammates got favorable hax. Which is why the 'best of 3 evens chances' is not applicable to a format like PSL, except for a hax heavy and surprise-reliant VGC. You are not 'out' of the league if you lose your match. Nor are you out of the league when you lose two matches, like Single -and Double Elimination tournaments. This is a long running tournament and that is why best of 3 is completely unnecessary for most tiers. I lost to hax, sure it sucks. But the same week Frexa got a turn one freeze on Heracross that helped him win a game. I made some mistakes in my own game too, I could've made plays that could let me win. Analyzing that sort of thing is how you get better. Even in Doubles this is the case. I've seen like 3 of your PSL Doubles battles and there were certainly plays you could've thought through more thoroughly, I hope you see that too. Focus on that rather than trying to get BO3 on every tier. I couldn't do a BO3 on Doubles because we already had a few weeks that were single matches. I would be considering it for PSL4 if it would ever happen. Edited July 6, 2015 by ThinkNice Guerinf and Noad 2 Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 This applies to any tier: we've got a bad boy over here, 4 warning points PandaJJ, Guerinf and Energize 3 Link to comment
Eggplant Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 it's ok i accidentally reveal other people's wp all the time x: go uguu name! Link to comment
SpartacusGD Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I thought i read somewhere that ou is mandatory in tie breaker? Link to comment
ThinkNice Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I thought i read somewhere that ou is mandatory in tie breaker? that probably was last season Link to comment
Inarin Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Zebra in any BO3 would probably take longer than an average Official OU Tournament ;) Sleepy, DaftCoolio, Eggplant and 2 others 5 Link to comment
DrCraig Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 You guys should keep us posted rather then go 'uh we battling in 5 minutes and giving no links' Times would be cool, like hour+ notices :) xSparkie and Kizhaz 2 Link to comment
Imabetheverybest1 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 You guys should keep us posted rather then go 'uh we battling in 5 minutes and giving no links' Times would be cool, like hour+ notices :) What kind of a inconsiderate person would do that Link to comment
Kizhaz Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 What kind of a inconsiderate person would do that Telf, what an asshole. And im sure if he disagrees he'll post make a post here about it ThinkNice, Anjovies and Sableye32 3 Link to comment
ThinkNice Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Battling in 5 min will put in link Noad and Kizhaz 2 Link to comment
DaftCoolio Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Battling in 5 min will put in link unliked cause it has been over 5mins Link to comment
DrCraig Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 The last PSL under ThinkNice. Please win guys, I have faith. Sableye32 1 Link to comment
Gunthug Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Let's be honest, it's the last PSL period. Senile and fredrichnietze 2 Link to comment
DrCraig Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Let's be honest, it's the last PSL period.Just trying to be a little optimistic :( Link to comment
Noad Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 I bet these 3 battles start when I have to go back to work despite being off for like 2 days haha DrCraig 1 Link to comment
Imabetheverybest1 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 If tie breaker matches Energize, DoubleJ, xSparkie and 3 others 6 Link to comment
G0dPower Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Couldn't have asked for a better finale. Shits intense yo xSparkie, DrCraig and DoubleJ 3 Link to comment
Imabetheverybest1 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) Spheal Team 6 (4) vs (4) uguu Name Inc. OU1: Frags vs SpartacusGD OU2: Glumac vs FABBROoo UU1: Kizhaz vs DestructX UU2: Fredrichnietze vs xSparkie Doubles: DrCraig vs uncleGYP ADV OU: ThinkNice vs Barrage DPP OU: Frexa vs Robofiend VGC 2015: Telf (1) vs (2) imabetheverybest wut the heck is dis. Edited July 9, 2015 by Imabetheverybest1 Link to comment
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