DrButler
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is it possible to challenge a single person or does one have to fight you all, like an e4 + champ thingy?
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Just now, Munya said:
I like to entertain these threads when they pop up so I went and did 100 attacks while paralyzed, of which 70 were successful and 30 left the pokemon doing nothing from paralysis. Seems pretty close to what would be expected.
too small of a samplesize, we need more.
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alright, first test went 12x moves, 6x parad. i would say thats enough of a samplesize to have para investigated, ty.
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On 2/20/2019 at 2:28 PM, SneakyTeddi said:
32 Players
offer a shitty prize and make it 32 entries tho NUs always got going. good job.
partly on me, cause i thought 64 would be our fkn standard by now. whats next; 3x 1, 3x 0 prizes and 8 entries?
i left and joined the q again:
https://gyazo.com/505e8eca7418b380bf26ef4e1cebebf3
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49 minutes ago, gbwead said:
The changes are never to that extent. OU is evolving because the meta is steady and new pokemons/mechanics aren't introduced every month in the tier. That's not the case in NU. The current usage right now displays Honchrow as the most used pokemon and it has been gone for over a month already. Does OU lose it's top threat every month? Before the re/introduction of Wobbuffet/Dugtrio and Zoruark, OU was the same for months.
i can hardly disagree with anything here.
3 minutes ago, gbwead said:What's your basis to say things like " Tangela isn't viable rn" or "Sableye (lol)"? The few matches you had in CC with people that probably played even less NU than you?
i watch NU wc matches and a shitton replays of other people having deep runs as well. i guess the fact that people spam mixed and coil eel, zard, flareon, emboar, swellow, golbat, nidoqueen and toxic on fkn everything is just my imagination and "all" those water set up sweepers (fera, biba and samu?) are really relevant in our current meta. and since i got literally 0 fucking clue about NU anyways the two mons i deemed banworthy got banned after a long period of complaining. how lucky I am!
why would i dislike sableye, hmmm? a base stat total of 380, literally no ability, and all it does is spamming wow/tox, recover, foulplay, x. but it checks gallade and hitmonchan. if i was into fucking people up by running 6 walls in round ones, id consider sableye as well, but i decided to try to leave stall behind (it was one game, pachi), which doesnt seem like a bad idea considering the tiers to wide to cover everything. maybe you can change my mind with an interesting balanced build including sableye tho.
22 minutes ago, gbwead said:Delibird is the only Fake Out user immune to Ground.
ye and the amount of times i look for a fo user that is immune to ground and a fire mon using scald equals the amount of times i look for a spinner.
26 minutes ago, gbwead said:but that doesn't mean anything in a tier where you don't even have enough information to know what are the roles that need to be fulfilled.
idk what kind of information ur missing if you dont know that ull need rapid spin or defog. and if you cant tell which spinners are more likely to be succesful rn its probably you that bases stuff solely on the CCs he played.
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1 hour ago, gbwead said:
If the tier is unstable, the meta is changing constantly, the threats are changing constantly and therefore what is viable is changing constantly. I have not said chan is unviable. I said that it's pretty baseless to say pokemon A is viable unlike pokemon B because we lack information to make those calls.
a meta is always changing, so threats are constantly changing and viability is constantly changing. what you say can be said about every single tier. cause mons can be unviable tomorrow doesnt mean that its far fetched to say its viable today, based on the information we have today. the pool of mons in NU is the smallest, so what kind of information do we lack? when a mon is the only mon to fulfill a certain roll or is the best at fulfilling it, what kind of information do we need to say its viable, when in that set pool there is nothing that can do a better job?
1 hour ago, gbwead said:and no one plays NU long enough to know if the possible counters are viable or not.
according to your first point that isnt possible anyways.
1 hour ago, gbwead said:If your main argument for the Bibarel ban- even if you were joking - is that all its checks and counters that people throw at you are in your eyes unviable, it doesn't mean much - to me at least.
a) even in my initial ranting post i didnt use the word ban; i rechecked my posts and i didnt use the word ban once
b) smh you make it sound like i havent agreed on a single mon people suggested;
c) i also dont know where you got the idea that it would be relevant how much you care, cause neither of your assumptions is true.
bs paragraph smh.
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3 minutes ago, gbwead said:
NU is way too unstable for anyone to say specific mons are viable or unviable.
how does the tier being unstable, which is already argueable in itself, influence if a mons viable or not? there will always be good and bad mons based on the pool of mons available to use. if you look for a spinner that packs a punch and has stab priority there is no alternative to tyrogue evos. chan is the best at what it is supposed to do in our NU environment. i mean, hit me up with some wisdom; but how can chan be unviable in our current NU, based on what? cause the tier is shaky? cause some people run sableye for whatever reason?
the way i understand viability, maybe thats where we differ, idk. the likelihood of a mon doing good based on the likelihood to meet certain mons or certain builds in a match.
sure, you might run into sableye (lol), dusknoir or bold missy and chan does nothing for a solid period of the match, but the likelihood of meeting any of these is fairly low to begin with and when you dont face them chan can do fantastic stuff, so how can i not say that chan is a very viable mon? based on what?
38 minutes ago, gbwead said:If a threat has checks, no matter how viable those may be, that threat can't be banned as Uber offensive, defensive or support and those are right now the only criteria under which a pokemon could get banned imo.
i already said it twice; i was ranting after getting pooped on by a fkn biba in TT. tangelas not very viable rn. if biba rises in usage it will be - changes the whole dynamic. tangela/tangrowth would become very viable checks, cause theyd actually do something with biba usage, i see that.
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21 minutes ago, soyhector said:
If you play offensive style its really dificult for Bibarel to set up sword dance, and practically it wont be a threat.
i remember orange bringing a foresight hitmontop just to keep his bibarel sash intact. if you wanna make sure it can hold onto that sash it will be able to do so and always find an opportunity to set up. yes, the calcs are significantly weaker, but itll always go +4 and facing it u dont know if its jet, qa or both.
21 minutes ago, soyhector said:Linoone, Crustle, Carracosta,
Unlike biba those are handled fairly well by the mons that are meta rn. Linoone prio is always normal, carra prio is always water, biba can be both. its way harder and has more risk involved revenge killing a biba than coming up with a gameplan vs these two, unless ur rinning kanga or chan (i disregard pika and raichu here, cause i dont think theyre any good). the sole fact that biba has access to two STAB priority moves is insane.
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5 minutes ago, gbwead said:
So what's more viable Hitmonchan or Bibarel?
idk where you wanna go with that question, but ill join the party to find out.
both do what theyre supposed to do, theyre both very viable.
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2 hours ago, soyhector said:
Anyways Bibarel has a very low usage, idk why are you afraid of it.
I hate building for an hour and scrapping the team, because "damn, its weak to biba". Or "can be weak to biba, cause nobody run it, r-right?" then get popped by one (just like last TT). I hate being forced to run stuff that i think isnt good just to avoid getting 6:0d by skillbarel.
I already said that i was ranting tho. Im just keeping this up, cause i enjoy talking about NU things.
2 hours ago, pachima said:LIAR. I saw you using that fictional stuff in a tour.
i mean when your opponent always runs the same cores you can run stall.
20 minutes ago, razimove said:Can't argue against honestly, I just don't see how hitmonchan can be viable on the meta.
Its quite simple actually; shitty hp; 110 Spdef, sustain in drainpunch, tpunch even hits phys walls hard, spin (as an offensive mon) and stab priority, while all of its attacking moves get boosted by orb + iron fist.
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8 hours ago, razimove said:
But now, justify me, all your points, especially, why are you saying hitmonchan is faster and why is that relevant.
252+ Atk Life Orb Iron Fist Hitmonchan Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bibarel: 151-179 (98 - 116.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO8 hours ago, razimove said:How do you plan on answering a bibarel, with a chan, knowing that he can literally switch out everytime cause well, hitmonchan isn't a threat at all to most NU meta, maybe can hurt steelix, but I can list 10+ things that actualy are high in usage, able to screw him up, I bet you can do too, and that's why it can only be considered an obscure check, as you're literally finding monsters that have low to 0 usage, to try and check it. I'd go in depth on this, but you can probably do your research too.
Thats simply not true. Id bet that if it wasnt a ditto only mon more people would actually run it. Also chan has a niche as an actual offensive spinner, cant think of any other mons offering that and it has spicy priority getting rid of pesky vanilluxe with an iron fist boosted mach punch. What im tryin to say is, chan can be amazing, give it a try.
I kinda feel like i told someone the same about stunfisk a while ago.
its viable ofc, but why would you waste kangas fantastic defensive stats (105/80/80) by shortening its longevity and ability to switch into stuff by using life orb?8 hours ago, razimove said:2) That's the common set. And well guess what, it's meant to create offensive pressure, not to kiss the opponent.
On 2/27/2019 at 2:52 AM, soyhector said:1) So you dont use defog or Rapid Spin on a Tier almost all people use at least Stealth Rocks.
you make it sound like controlling hazards is always easy, which it really isnt at times. the fact that there is hazard removal doesnt mean that you can always control them, thus sash mons arent a reliable answer to bibarel. sometimes ur sitting there with your toise and that rose just spikes.
On 2/27/2019 at 2:52 AM, soyhector said:4) About Tangela:
i said it twice and ill say it again, if you disagree feel free to prove me wrong. tangela is in a very bad spot in our meta. it doesnt resist flying, nor does it resist fighting or normal, it doesnt have regenerator and lacks lefties recovery, so it isnt too hard to get rid of a tangela.
also, tho this is an opinion not a fact, stall doesnt seem very viable to me in NU, but thats what tangela builds tend to promote. its like building with altaria. they force you to turn defensive, because they have close to 0 offensive pressure and require plenty of support to fulfill their roles. thats probably why we see way more golbat than altaria these days.
i havent seen a single defensive druddigon run sucker punch yet, for a good reason, i think. tbh i dont like the idea to run a mon that "checks" something just by being thrown in to die cause skin + helmet. thats the kind of stuff id resort to if i had no other options if you know what i mean.
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kanga and chan i mentioned above, guess you could count ambi, pikachu, hari in there as well, so basically fo + chan. tho chans only a check as long as biba isnt jolly since chan should always be adamant.
+4 252+ Atk Bibarel Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Druddigon: 166-196 (90.2 - 106.5%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO0 Atk Mold Breaker Druddigon Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bibarel: 46-55 (29.8 - 35.7%) -- 30.8% chance to 3HKO-> this only revenges sash variants, not the orb one and id argue that running sucker on impish drudd is suboptimal.
idk why you would wanna run choice scarf exe tbh. it doesnt revenge kill anything that sets up, which is pretty subpar for a scarfer and poliwrath seems terrible coverage wise, (as in) fighting or water doesnt seem like a scary thing to switch into. the good scarfers are frailer than the "only good vs biba" ones, but the allow you to kill lilli and omastar, which both of these fall to.
simisage only works if you know theyre running jet over quick attack or if its carrying a sash, but like razi said, you gotta control hazards to count that as a check and sometimes you just cant make sure you have control over them, so thats rather unreliable.
ive seen qa over jet, ive seen jet over qa and i have seen both on the same set, ive seen prio, + stab + crunch - scouting around that shit is impossible.
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you just listed a bunch of mons nobody runs for good reasons. just to clear some things up tho:
+4 252+ Atk Life Orb Bibarel Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dusknoir: 130-153 (85.5 - 100.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery+4 252+ Atk Bibarel Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dusknoir: 100-118 (65.7 - 77.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery252 Atk Dusknoir Thunder Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bibarel: 106-126 (68.8 - 81.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKOno rocks and you can wow it.
+4 252+ Atk Bibarel Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Qwilfish: 172-204 (100 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKOBold whimsi is legit kinda, tho you always wanna be clicking encore, cause giga doesnt ohko, which means biba could just click return, thus its a complete momentum sink.
Why would anybody want to run hitmontop in our NU?
+4 252+ Atk Bibarel Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 150-176 (82.4 - 96.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery+4 252+ Atk Life Orb Bibarel Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Steelix: 195-229 (107.1 - 125.8%) -- guaranteed OHKOTangelas legit as a Biba counter, but what else does it counter in our current NU? And what does it do after coming in on lets say a cc; leech, synthesis, knock off? Shitton of fire types, golbat, rose, lilli and gallade set up on it, eel just gets in and uturns out with close to 0 risk. Tangelas crap rn.Havent seen any MisD, so ill do a more realistic onethats working:+4 252+ Atk Life Orb Bibarel Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mismagius: 109-129 (65.2 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery0- Atk Mismagius Foul Play vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bibarel: 198-234 (128.5 - 151.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO252+ Atk Life Orb Bibarel Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mismagius: 71-86 (42.5 - 51.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recoverySo Bold Missy seems legit under the assumption one runs fp + wow and unlike other mons i see it actually doing stuff, while being a solid Biba answer at the same time.
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13 hours ago, MHkaserz said:
I know! Shedninja walls it indefinitely. Just make sure to have hazard control xD
frillish and shedi get sniped by crunch.
12 hours ago, DarylDixon said:Pokes like, metang,tangrowth can wall it, also bold cradily would be amazing to wall it but... storm drain is h.a, thats why dis game sucks without h.a mons :c
+4 252+ Atk Bibarel Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Metang: 82-97 (49.1 - 58%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO0 Atk Metang Thunder Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bibarel: 68-80 (44.1 - 51.9%) -- 12.1% chance to 2HKO252+ Atk Metang Thunder Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bibarel: 98-116 (63.6 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKOTangrowth is terrible rn. I mean what does Tangrowth do? Apart from switching into stuff to take a hit (w/o regen) and leech or knock off i mean.
39 minutes ago, mago1993 said:bibarel leftovers? pls, if u use life orb not have counter this shit
those are sash calcs.
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10 minutes ago, MHkaserz said:
I think there is Seismitoad as well..
A pokemon with intimidate
Maybe Poliwrath
Unaware Swoobat? Bit funny xDbiba can just return, which i just missed reading the first time.
+4 252+ Atk Bibarel Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Seismitoad: 186-220 (87.7 - 103.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recoveryno good intimidate mons imo.
+4 252+ Atk Bibarel Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Poliwrath: 160-190 (81.2 - 96.4%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO- takes one, but cant be worn down before then.
i legit considered swoobat before, but didnt see it do too well. maybe ill look into it again.
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tbh this was my "zard is broken" - just ranted cause i fkn suck at taking losses sometimes. thanks for taking ur time tho^^
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2 minutes ago, narutoseninvictor said:I am necroskulldark and paid to all when I bet if you want to ask @DrButler @MknsZblex
didnt keep an eye on his other bets, but he indeed paid the ones between us.
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[Op Ed] DoubleJ on the Economy (Again)
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i agree with everything you said and i think its disgraceful that someone who plants berries on 16 accounts can just buy the shinies a competitive player, who watches replays, breeds, tests and tries to improve (which is a little more time consuming and exhausting than loggin 16 accs a day), will never win.
we as gym and npc farming comp people sit between the chairs. berry farmers and "donators" ruin our economy and we cant even buy fkn vanity anymore, because we need that little bit of gym money for comps, which we can then use to try to win non shiny prizes, if we are able to make it in, cause smart staff hosting 32 seat tournaments. the game turned so comp unfriendly in general, its sad to see, but since we dont pay squirtles rent i dont see that change either.
thumbs up for the effort tho.