RIchardZheng Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, WildProphet said: thx for the tips! any suggestions? You want tyranitar or else exadrill is pointless. If you bring tyranitar and exadrill, have at least 2 counters for any counter to tyranitar and exadrill. A few counters are any rain teams, so bring a good rain counter that can sit and wait out the rain. You already have ferrothorn so you shouldn't worry about much under the rain other than some nasty fighting types. Double dragons is a bad idea because now your team is even weaker to ice (which is common under rain as well) and other dragons. You have a mixed Salamance with fire blast and 2 physical moves and a mixed dragonite. Neither is ideal due to mixing. I would have a dedicated special attacker and physical attacker instead. Your team is very heavily focused on offense, with no supporting pokemon/supporting moves and no tanks other than ferrothorn. I would bring at the minimum 2 tanks on most teams. One tank for physical attacks and one for special attacks. Ferro is a good physical tank due to iron barbs and rocky helmet. I would swap one of your dragons for a special tank like chansey. Your team also needs a healer if it wants to win with that much offense, so chansey would pull double duty as a healer with heal bell and wish. Cause burns will absolutely crush your physical sweepers Link to comment
WildProphet Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, RIchardZheng said: You want tyranitar or else exadrill is pointless. If you bring tyranitar and exadrill, have at least 2 counters for any counter to tyranitar and exadrill. A few counters are any rain teams, so bring a good rain counter that can sit and wait out the rain. You already have ferrothorn so you shouldn't worry about much under the rain other than some nasty fighting types. Double dragons is a bad idea because now your team is even weaker to ice (which is common under rain as well) and other dragons. You have a mixed Salamance with fire blast and 2 physical moves and a mixed dragonite. Neither is ideal due to mixing. I would have a dedicated special attacker and physical attacker instead. Your team is very heavily focused on offense, with no supporting pokemon/supporting moves and no tanks other than ferrothorn. I would bring at the minimum 2 tanks on most teams. One tank for physical attacks and one for special attacks. Ferro is a good physical tank due to iron barbs and rocky helmet. I would swap one of your dragons for a special tank like chansey. Your team also needs a healer if it wants to win with that much offense, so chansey would pull double duty as a healer with heal bell and wish. Cause burns will absolutely crush your physical sweepers Thx alot! In your opinion what dragon should i keep? is it just preference? Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, WildProphet said: Thx alot! In your opinion what dragon should i keep? is it just preference? It really depends on your team and what you want. I tried most dragons but stuck with Hydreigon because fire blast and focus blast deal with some of the best tanks (skarmory, ferrothorn, chansey, blissey) and dragon pulse would deal with everything else. Taunt helps shut down tanks even further and either forces them to sacrafice a tank or swap. Hydreigon is the best special dragon IMO. If you really need a physical dragon, I would keep Dragonite Link to comment
WildProphet Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, RIchardZheng said: It really depends on your team and what you want. I tried most dragons but stuck with Hydreigon because fire blast and focus blast deal with some of the best tanks (skarmory, ferrothorn, chansey, blissey) and dragon pulse would deal with everything else. Taunt helps shut down tanks even further and either forces them to sacrafice a tank or swap. Hydreigon is the best special dragon IMO. If you really need a physical dragon, I would keep Dragonite How about like this? Ferrothorn @ Leftovers Ability: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Impish Nature IVs: 0 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpA / 0 SpD / 0 Spe - Stealth Rock - Leech Seed - Power Whip - Iron Head Lapras @ Leftovers Ability: Water Absorb EVs: 200 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 44 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Hydro Pump - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam - Substitute Chansey @ Eviolite Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD Calm Nature - Wish - Soft-Boiled - Toxic - Heal Bell Hydreigon @ Life Orb Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Dark Pulse - Fire Blast - Draco Meteor - Focus Blast Rhyperior @ Leftovers Ability: Solid Rock EVs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 244 SpD Adamant Nature - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Rock Blast - Dragon Tail Electivire @ Life Orb Ability: Motor Drive EVs: 248 Atk / 36 SpA / 224 Spe Naive Nature - Wild Charge - Flamethrower - Earthquake - Ice Punch Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, WildProphet said: How about like this? Ferrothorn @ Leftovers Ability: Iron Barbs EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def Impish Nature IVs: 0 HP / 0 Def / 0 SpA / 0 SpD / 0 Spe - Stealth Rock - Leech Seed - Power Whip - Iron Head Lapras @ Leftovers Ability: Water Absorb EVs: 200 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 44 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Hydro Pump - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam - Substitute Chansey @ Eviolite Ability: Natural Cure EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD Calm Nature - Wish - Soft-Boiled - Toxic - Heal Bell Hydreigon @ Life Orb Ability: Levitate EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Dark Pulse - Fire Blast - Draco Meteor - Focus Blast Rhyperior @ Leftovers Ability: Solid Rock EVs: 248 HP / 16 Atk / 244 SpD Adamant Nature - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Rock Blast - Dragon Tail Electivire @ Life Orb Ability: Motor Drive EVs: 248 Atk / 36 SpA / 224 Spe Naive Nature - Wild Charge - Flamethrower - Earthquake - Ice Punch I'm not too sure about Lapras. It isn't a really good water type to have. Starmie with hydro pump, ice beam, thunderbolt and rapid spin would serve you better as a fast attacker that can also support with rapid spin. Link to comment
WildProphet Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RIchardZheng said: I'm not too sure about Lapras. It isn't a really good water type to have. Starmie with hydro pump, ice beam, thunderbolt and rapid spin would serve you better as a fast attacker that can also support with rapid spin. thx i will look it out The rest of the team its decent? jolteon or electrivire? Edited August 18, 2019 by WildProphet Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, WildProphet said: thx i will look it out The rest of the team its decent? At this point I feel its less of quick fire questions and more of me rebuilding your team lol. I'm all for off meta picks and underdogs, but Electavire and Rhyerior also are not really that good. They are both the same story, not the best attackers but bulky. But not truly bulky enough to be a tank and not that flexible either. I feel like I should stop weighing in and let some other, more experienced, folks jump in an help as I am basically making a team for you at this point, which is not what you requested Link to comment
WildProphet Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, RIchardZheng said: At this point I feel its less of quick fire questions and more of me rebuilding your team lol. I'm all for off meta picks and underdogs, but Electavire and Rhyerior also are not really that good. They are both the same story, not the best attackers but bulky. But not truly bulky enough to be a tank and not that flexible either. I feel like I should stop weighing in and let some other, more experienced, folks jump in an help as I am basically making a team for you at this point, which is not what you requested thx im done xD i will try to do it my self but thx for the help Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, WildProphet said: thx im done xD i will try to do it my self but thx for the help If you ever feel stuck or just need a guide, look at smogon, great place to learn WildProphet 1 Link to comment
Pokelove Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/17/2019 at 7:54 PM, WildProphet said: Thx alot! In your opinion what dragon should i keep? is it just preference? PLs how to teach wish to blissey i need very Link to comment
pachima Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/18/2019 at 1:38 AM, RIchardZheng said: If you ever feel stuck or just need a guide, look at smogon, great place to learn LOL MaatthewMLG and Luke 1 1 Link to comment
WildProphet Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Pokelove said: PLs how to teach wish to blissey i need very BP special tutor Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, WildProphet said: BP special tutor At hoenn battle frontier IIRC WildProphet 1 Link to comment
jaymeta Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Was thinking of making a nasty plot Togekiss, was wondering if people find more success with straight sweeper ev spread or with some hp investment instead? Link to comment
WildProphet Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) Hi guys Can you help me out with tips on this rain team? I wanted to switch a pokemon for a phisical one don't know witch to switch (maybe I would include azumarill) Pelipper @ Damp Rock Ability: Drizzle Shiny: Yes EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD Calm Nature - Hurricane - Scald - U-turn - Roost Kingdra @ Life Orb Ability: Swift Swim Shiny: Yes EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Hydro Pump - Draco Meteor - Rain Dance - Ice Beam Ludicolo @ Life Orb Ability: Swift Swim Shiny: Yes EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe Modest Nature IVs: 0 Atk - Rain Dance - Counter - Giga Drain - Ice Beam Starmie @ Life Orb Ability: Analytic Shiny: Yes EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Hydro Pump - Thunderbolt - Ice Beam - Rapid Spin Vaporeon @ Life Orb Ability: Hydration Shiny: Yes EVs: 212 Def / 252 SpA / 44 Spe Modest Nature - Surf - Ice Beam - Hidden Power [Grass] - Rest Tentacruel @ Black Sludge Ability: Rain Dish Shiny: Yes EVs: 248 HP / 244 Def / 16 Spe Timid Nature - Rapid Spin - Toxic - Scald - Protect Edited August 22, 2019 by WildProphet Link to comment
jaymeta Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Moveset and EV spread suggestions for impish gliscor? Link to comment
Leviatharian Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 6 hours ago, jaymeta said: Moveset and EV spread suggestions for impish gliscor? Full HP and Def Moves: Roost, defog/taunt, earthquake, ice fang/acrobatics Link to comment
Kiwito Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) I just got a 31/30/31/15/31/30/22 Adamant Scyther between the breeds. Is the 31 speed crucial on this species, or can I run it already? Also, suggestions for a Jolly Gliscor? Edited August 29, 2019 by Kiwito Link to comment
CaptnBaklava Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Any ideas for a Steelix set?Seen so many not sure wich one to do now :D Got quite some NU Comps so maybe give me a few ideas. Thx Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 4:07 PM, Kiwito said: I just got a 31/30/31/15/31/30/22 Adamant Scyther between the breeds. Is the 31 speed crucial on this species, or can I run it already? Also, suggestions for a Jolly Gliscor? Scizor doesn't really need speed, as it will get bullet punch for priority and with a BS speed of 65, you won't be outspeeding much. But it obviously depends on the set you are running. Some offensive swords dance sets pack max speed (including EVs) as well as jolly nature, also scarf sets pack max speed. But since your nature is Adamant, you probably don't care about speed What do you want your Gliscor to do? Link to comment
RIchardZheng Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, CaptnBaklava said: Any ideas for a Steelix set?Seen so many not sure wich one to do now :D Got quite some NU Comps so maybe give me a few ideas. Thx Steelix is amazing as a wall. It is hands down the best wall at that tier IIRC, with tons of resistances and 2 immunities (to toxic/toxic spikes and electric moves) A good set for steelix would be Relaxed nature (lower speed, don't worry, you don't need that speed anyways) with max EVs in HP and defense, with 6 in attack For moves, try: earthquake, it crushes lots of pokemon, and usually can force a swap gyro ball, it turns a weakness (slow speed) into an advantage, what more can you ask for? stealth rock, abuses the fact that you can force swap outs dragon tail, since taunt users outspeed and force you to attack, dragon tail gets around taunt Link to comment
pachima Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, RIchardZheng said: Steelix is amazing as a wall. It is hands down the best wall at that tier IIRC @Butler Link to comment
Loullaby Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Hey! :D Good morning everyone I was planning an OU comp team and came across with deciding my physical sweeper, normally I would use Garchomp but since it isn't available yet I think my go-to choices are Salamence, Dragonite or Haxorus. So the question is: Which one do you think is better? As far as I know both Dragonite and Salamence are better than Haxorus (although i would prefer him as he looks cooler), but i can't decide between those two... I think they both have their weaknesses but i'm still kinda new so i'm looking forward to someone else's opinion on this :D tl;dr: Which is better? Dragonite or Salamence? PS: I'm also open to any other physical sweeper suggestions for OU, just don't say Conkeldurr as I already use Mienshao in my team as a lead Thank y'all Link to comment
Caliginosus Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) So I just had to find out that Nature Power doesn't translate to automatic Earthquake. There's no random factor or anything I'm not seeing, right? Just want to make sure I really have to dump the move. Edited November 9, 2019 by Caliginosus Link to comment
iBiscoitinho Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) Greetings, I was thinking in using this little lady here for a Physical Sweeper only. But we know that Infernape has both possibilities of using Attack and Special Attack movesets. My question is, in a long run, should I invest in making it a 6x31 IV pokémon for a future possibility of changing the moveset, os should I keep it this way? I ask it because it's my first 5x31 breed, so I am lacking a good money source. The focus now would be rebattle NPC to farm money and later finish breeding the whole team. So thanks in advance for any tip you can give me. Have a nice day :) Edited August 3, 2020 by iBiscoitinho typo Link to comment
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