Arimanius

Best rekt by eq?

Throh sweep xD
 
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So, as some of you may (or may not) know, the upcoming update will completely change the tiers as we know them. Normally, we would wait and take usage to update the tiers accordingly, however, the Tier Council has been tasked with the job of making hypothetical tiers beforehand, to serve as temporary placeholders until we get settled, official tiers from usage stats later on. Early OU, UU, and NU lists were posted in another Competition Alley thread a while back, however, those revisions are pretty inaccurate to the current versions.
 
At the moment, the OU list is mostly done and settled on, while the UU list is much more up to debate. The purpose of this thread is for the community to look at the proposed temporary tiers, and point out any obvious errors, or just placings people disagree with.
 
Before posting the list, it'll probably be helpful to discuss how the list itself was compiled. It's divided into two parts; The "OU" part are effectively pokemon that are very likely to:
 
Be decently viable in the OU metagame post update. Are likely to make the OU cutoff.  
This distinction is important, because there are several pokemon, (see: Snorlax), that are not on the OU list, but might end up being OU early on anyway. Why? Because PokeMMO players are likely to use those pokemon in OU regardless of how viable they may or may not be in the metagame post update, simply because they were banned before, or they already have those pokemon bred and ready. The list is built with this in mind; Although it's totally possible for Flygon or Snorlax to end up OU by usage early on, we do not expect them to stay that way for long, assuming it does happen, due to them likely not having the viability to keep their usage high.
 
Then, there are the "BL" pokemon. We tried to keep the "BL" list as tiny as possible, being pretty much exclusive to pokemon we feel aren't up to par with OU, but likely to be incredibly overwhelming in UU, to the point where actually publicly testing them is unnecessary.
 
With that being said, here is the list:
OU
BL
The UU list is TBA.
 
Additionally, a few last notes to keep in mind when discussing these lists; The TC doesn't 100% know what's going to be in the update either, with that being said, these lists were made with a few assumptions in mind that have been discussed on the forums before. For anyone who hasn't been paying attention to all the posts on the forums about the update, here is a very brief list of important assumptions that this list was made under:
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Do not expect Hidden Abilities. Do not expect custom TMs or HMs or such. (Think Defog) Do not expect Legendary pokemon. Do not expect Sinnoh pokemon not available in Unova. (ie Garchomp isn't on the list because Garchomp isn't going to be out)  
Also, keep in mind these assumptions are for pretty soon after the update. Obviously, eventually stuff like Sinnoh and it's pokemon and Legendary Dungeons will be added, but for the purposes of these proposed tier lists, those are too far in the future to be relevant.
 
Discuss.
 
Edit:
Here's the Little Cup banlist:
LC:
 
Edit 2:
Here's the UU list:
UU:
Subject to change.

These standings have existed through time immemorial. From a period when 3v3 ran supreme, to the introduction of the Seafoam Islands, to before the existence of NU, to the release of Game Corner TM's, to the rise of 4v4 and eventually 6v6, to breeding, to BikeMMO, to Hoenn, to the death of the comp scene and finally to our current rendition of this ever evolving game. 
 
These stats die with me, and well, I haven't keeled over just yet despite my many attempts at jumping in the grave. 

Update: Congratulations to [AURA] Pokemon Aura for claiming the September Team Tournament crown and inching ever closer to the likes of [AW] and [LYLE] at the top of this list. [AURA] now has 6 first-place finishes along with 5 second-places for a grand total of 40 points, doubling the 4th Place [RNG]. They have really put it together in 2017 with their three wins and are on par to finish as the most dominant team of this year. Congratulations!

It's kinda hard to say whats the "main" event at ufc 217
 
All 3 main fights are hype as fuck

FUCKING
 
HYPE

hypppppppppppppppppppe
 
 

nah, my bets are on that Kylo and Rey both turn grey and team up towards the end, setting the stage for the last of the trilogy where they both finally bring balance by bringing down Snoke and letting Luke pass on peacefully (assuming he doesn't turn grey himself, though I bet he dies as a Jedi in this next movie).

After watching the new trailer, I'm all but betting my house that Rey turns to the dark side. 

Details
Automated Tournament | Single Battle | 64 Players | 6v6 UU

Date & Time
Friday, 27th October | 12am BST - 7pm EDT
 
Registration
Registrations will open 15 minutes prior to the tournament. You can register by clicking on the PvP menu option (Masterball icon) and then select "Tournament Signup". You may only enter on one account.

Clauses
Evasion / Sleep / OHKO / Unique Species / Self-KO / OP Item
Tournament Clauses Explained
 
UU Ban List 
Dragonite | Dugtrio | Gengar | Salamence | Tyranitar | Wobbuffet | Blissey
Aerodactyl | Alakazam | Arcanine | Blaziken | Chansey | Charizard | Milotic
Dusclops | Espeon | Flygon | Forretress | Gardevoir | Gyarados| Typhlosion
Heracross | Jolteon | Kingdra | Ludicolo | Magneton | Medicham | Metagross
Porygon2 | Rhydon | Skarmory | Slowbro | Snorlax | Starmie | Swampert
Tauros | Umbreon | Ursaring | Venusaur | Weezing | Breloom | Golem (Test Ban)
Hariyama | Linoone | Machamp | Marowak | Slaking | Houndoom | Dodrio
Feraligatr | Tentacruel | Sceptile | Zangoose
 
 
Prizes:
 
1st Place Prize

Shiny GIFT Nidoqueen
Your choice of nature, two moves, with IVs 2x31 & 4x25
AND
1,000,000 Pokeyen OR 1,000 Reward Points
 
2nd Place Prize
500,000 Pokeyen OR 500 Reward Points
 
3rd - 4th Place Prize
250,000 Pokeyen OR 250 Reward Points
 
Host: Gilan

Hi players!

We're having discussion about 5 man Team Tournament set as standard TT every month, for either every rounds or just few rounds, like in tests. We would like to hear what you all think as well. 

Note, that decision  might change after Unova update, ofc. 

Love it, I've always been a fan of dark themes like this one

Congratulations Aura for winning Team Tournament in September! That was great tournament, I hope to see you all next month!
Also congrats VVVV, it was yet another good performance from you guys, it's always enjoyable to see how you're all battling
 
 
Thanks to @SecretDjinn @Noad @TheChampionMike @KaynineXL and @Bilburt for helping me with this event, when I couldn't be there at the start. You guys rocks. 
 
 
BRACKET

I understand that you (staff) do not have all the time to organize tournaments, but please, cc are not enough, and 2 tournaments nu in a row do not help much, please organize more tournaments for shiny (1ou 1uu 1nu 1dobles 1lc for week i think), the few players that remain "active" need incentivation, and maybe some inactive players will return

EDIT: Kudos to all the ass lickers around here o/

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen4ou-628746865
What a sweet victory. I don't think any win has made me laugh so much.

Haha saw this on FB today:
 

Wreckt by Heatran
 
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Another thing important to remember is it doesn't matter if he is viable in OU or not. That isn't something to even think about when discussing banning a UU mon - we'd rather something sit in BL without any OU usage than tear up the lower tier where it's broken 

Dude I know it seems odd but Water doesn't resist Rock nor Ground =)))))))))))))))))
Not even meganium checks golem cause rockblast CB has a good chance to 2HKO it (and it outspeeds), hitmonlee with his shitty physical bulk gets OHKO'd by EQ, and get's OHKO'd by 3 hits RockBlast. Cradily gets 2HKO'd by any move, sharpedo OHKO'd, lanturn OHKO'd, Poli has 84,4% chances to get 2HKO'd with perfect IVs and 252hp+def investment, Blastoise gets 2HKO'd and Exeggutor has a good 40%+ to die switching on RockBlast aswell. Donphan can't switch on it and Nidoking either. Sneasel gets OHKO'd by 1 hit Rockblast.
 
A check is something that can switch and kill it, nothing you said was a check. You should go back to money making and collecting shinies instead of showcasing your insane competitive knowledge.
 
Oh and Dodrio not only has 37.5% chance to not OHKO golem but he can't switch on 2 hits RockBlast without getting crushed like berry powder.
 
XD not viable
 
EDIT: before you ask why I sound so rude and biitchyy, I'm french

I'm not sure if you're trolling or is this for real? Can you please kindly clarify, because I am unsure how to approach your post.

It's BL, which stands for borderline. It was banned from UU

@gbwead
@Rigamorty
 
I anticipate donating 2M for this event, but in the event that you decide to add Ubers, I will add an additional 1M and will write a guide on PokeMMO Ubers for players to read and learn from which will be released before Week 1. 

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randomdoublesbattle-628299185
Tailwind saves