KaynineXL Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm just so confused as to what to price shards at. They are just not stable at all going up and down like a yo-yo. Thanks for your data nonetheless. Link to comment
LiquidFrost Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 On 5/15/2016 at 1:10 AM, axx said: are we entirely sure that kyu is not following us around and dynamically changing the drop rates for stuff? that would undermine the reliability of several calculations i base this asumption on kyu's original post from back in the shinyrategate thread: for a while his wording kept bugging me and now after experiencing high variance in drop rates i can't be too sure that drops are static this would also kind of explain GTL variance in prices: if you get a few sell expensive, if you get many sell cheaper I have had my doubts on that as well. Here is my reply which I made sometime back in this thread. On 3/19/2016 at 2:36 AM, LiquidFrost said: I have one more Meowth which has Bite and Faint Attack, so I have also used that earlier to get some extra PPs, didn't brought it this time so used Leppa Berries. Yes, scarves were less indeed for me. I could be entirely wrong about this but I think maybe the rate for pickup also changes. I've previously done farming runs where I've got like 9 scarves in 40 kills and runs where I didn't get any scarf at all even after 150 encounters. I have noted a similar pattern with Sticks as well, so there is an observation. :) Sometime back, me with two other teammates tried to calculate the % rate for it because all three of us kind of observed that rate is not fixed and could change drastically, but sadly we couldn't complete the calculations and records for some reasons and it was left as it is. However, if you plan to do more runs or calculate any stuff and need any help then you can let me know. So yeah it would be nice if Kyu can tell us something more about this. Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 @Kyu If you can read above ^ Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 Added a new section to the 'others' page which includes making profit from breeding Pokemon. Shoutout to @Matoka for creating the majority of it. Link to comment
Uncandango Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) 100PP: 8x Yellow Shards 4x Blue Shards 3x Green Shards 1x Big Pearl 1x Deepseascale Another 1h run 121PP: 3x Yellow Shards 12x Blue Shards 2x Green Shards 3x Big Pearl 3x Deepseascale Edited June 10, 2016 by Uncandango Link to comment
TomPennyLives Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Great Guide KaynineXL! Do you think a section about wild caught breeders and 1x31s etc would be beneficial? They sell for 10-14k each very quickly on gtl in my experience. I find this a nice way to make good money after island runs, plus you shiny hunt aswell and get held items and keep the good breeders for your own stuff. Although I find it would be just as fast and efficient as doing an island run just with more rng (either with you or against you). KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 1, 2016 Author Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 hour ago, TomPennyLives said: Great Guide KaynineXL! Do you think a section about wild caught breeders and 1x31s etc would be beneficial? They sell for 10-14k each very quickly on gtl in my experience. I find this a nice way to make good money after island runs, plus you shiny hunt aswell and get held items and keep the good breeders for your own stuff. Although I find it would be just as fast and efficient as doing an island run just with more rng (either with you or against you). Thanks :) I feel like if you're going to catch random Pokemon for breeders or 1x31s you might as well catch Dittos because they're generally more valuable and more desired as they can breed with everything. Dittos already have a section in my guide and I'd suggest you catch those instead of random caught Pokemon although I guess Dittos can be a little more tricky to capture and require Ultra Balls. Arimanius and TomPennyLives 2 Link to comment
Pythonhier Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 On 3/9/2016 at 1:33 PM, KaynineXL said: Isle 7 The two to the north are alright I guess, I do those when I'm not lazy. The first group of green circles to the south are good, the one is a doubles trainer which I'm not fond of by they only have 2 Pokemon and give about 3k, worth it. As you're going east, there is another doubles trainer battle, they have like 5-6 Pokemon and I find double battles annoying when I'm not paying attention so I usually just skip it, you can do it though. The rest to the south are all good, so do those. What about the Gentlemean, Artist (with 4 smeargles), and two rune maniac's when you surf from the bottom of Island 7? Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 15 minutes ago, Pythonhier said: What about the Gentlemean, Artist (with 4 smeargles), and two rune maniac's when you surf from the bottom of Island 7? Artists are bad money. Two guys which you surf to are too far away and annoying for my liking to make them efficient. Link to comment
Pythonhier Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Just now, KaynineXL said: Artists are bad money. Two guys which you surf to are too far away and annoying for my liking to make them efficient. So you would say red on them all? or you just remove them all together lol Link to comment
Valorik Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Ty for the guide :) KaynineXL 1 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 >In the middle of editing my guide.. >updated half the the new isle run rewards >has 2 forum pages up >clicks notification >goes to notification on the 'edited' page. FML. SirYurop and Arimanius 2 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) Hey guys. So, within the next few days I should have an E4 guide out, which will eventually get better over time. I wanted to ask if you could list all the Pokemon/Movesets/Items/Investments you can think of. If you can give info such as : The battle - Battle 1: Lorelei, Battle 2: Bruno, Battle 3: Agatha, Battle 4: Lance, Battle 5: Rival The team, please provide as much detail as you can e.g. predicted EV spreads, predicted items, movesets, Pokemon levels The Round - each time you complete E4, your round increase and you fight harder Pokemon. I don't need the the default E4 teams, just the additional rounds after. Any suggestions which you think would be good? Edited July 23, 2016 by KaynineXL Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Updated the rewards received from beating the island NPCs with Vs Seeker - With Amulet coin & no Payday Isle 5 1st PKMN Breeder Alize - $3024 -> $3717 22% Increase 2nd Painter Rayna - $1,8k -> $2160 20% Increase 3rd Lady Jacki - 6k -> $7,2k 20% Increase 4th Lady Gillian - $5880 -> $7,2k 22% Increase 5th Painter Celina - $1.8k -> $2124 18% Increase 6th Painter Daisy - $1.8k -> $2088 16% Increase 7th Youngster Destin - $1728 -> $2124 22% Increase 8th Birdkeeper Milo - $2646 -> $3132 18% Increase 9th Birdkeeper Chaz - $2646 -> $2970 12% Increase 10th Birdkeeper Harold - $2646 -> $3240 22% Increase = $29,970 -> $35,955 19.6% Increase Isle 6 1st Juggler Edward - $4320 -> $5,4k 25% Increase 2nd Hiker Earl - $3969 -> $4860 22% Increase 3rd Hiker Daryl - $4050 -> $4536 12% Increase 4th PokeManiac Hector - $5292 -> $6480 22% Increase 5th Ruin Maniac Stanly - $5184 -> $6372 22% Increase 6th Ruin Maniac Foster - $5400 -> $6480 20% Increase 7th Ruin Maniac Larry - $5292 -> $6480 22% Increase = $33,507 -> $40,608 21% Increase Isle 7 1st Psychic Rodette - $2250 -> $2,7k 20% Increase 2nd Psychic Dario - $2340 -> $2,7k 15% Increase 3rd Aroma lady Miah - 3150 -> $3717 18% Increase 4th Juggler Mason - $4230 -> $5,4k 27% Increase 5th PKMN Ranger Nicolas - $4131 -> $4860 17% Increase 6th PKMN Ranger Madeline - $4131 -> $4617 11% Increase 7th First Doubles Battle - $3150 -> $3780 20% Increase 8th Second Doubles Battle - $2808 -> $3240 15% Increase 9th Timer Evan - 4410 -> $5310 20% Increase 10th PKMN Ranger Jackson - $3969 -> $4860 22% Increase 11th PKMN Ranger Katelyn - $4212 -> $4374 3% Increase 12th Crush Girl Cyndy - $2592 -> $3024 16% Increase 13th Cooltrainer Leroy - $4050 -> $4860 20% Increase 14th Cooltrainer Michelle - $4050 -> $4536 12% Increase = $ 49,473 -> $57,978 17% Increase All islands together = $112,950 -> $134,541 19% Increase Extra VS Seeker trainers Route 14 Beauty Olivia - $3132 -> $6480 106% Increase Beauty Grace - $3132 -> $6480 106% Increase Route 13 Beauty Sheila - $3132 -> $6480 106% Increase Beauty Lola - $2916 -> $6480 122% Increase = $12,312 -> $25,920 110% Increase ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And some data on E4 which I'l stick here for later use. If possible, could you guys get me the levels of the Pokemon as well, might be handy. Credits to my boy Gary: Round 2 Kanto: Lorelei 2 Full Restores. jynx (lead) - Ice Beam - Psychic Lapras - Tbolt - Surf - Ice Beam Piloswine - Earthquake Dewgong - Surf - Ice Beam Slowbro - Surf - Psychic - Slack Off Cloyster - Ice Beam - Surf Bruno 2 Full Restores Machamp Lead - Rock Slide - Brick Break Hariyama - Brick Break Hitmonchan - Mach Punch Steelix - Earthquake - Iron Tail Hitmonlee - Thief Hitmontop - Mach Punch Agatha 2 Full Restores Misdreavus lead - Shadow Ball - Tbolt - Icy Wind Gengar Life Orb - Shadow Ball - Sludgebomb - Tbolt Crobat Life Orb - Aerial Ace - Sludge bomb - Heat Wave Alakazam - Psychic - Sig Beam Muk - Ice Punch - Tpunch Arbok - Eq ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Round 2 Hoenn: Sidney fuccboi 2 full Restores Random Lead Crawdaunt - Crunch Mightyena - Crunch - Superfang Cacturne - Bullet Seed (does loads of dmg, think CB or full ada invest) Absol - Megahorn Sharpedo - Waterfall - Crunch - Ice Beam Shifty - Leaf Blade Phoebe 2 Full Restores Usually leads with Banette. Banette - Shadow Ball Misdreavus - Shadow Ball - Tbolt Ninetails - Flamethrower Sableye - ShadowBall - Recover Dusclops - Seismic Toss Shedinja - Shadow Ball Glacia ho 2 Full Restores (Supposed to be scarf) Persian - Bite - Double Edge - Iron Tail Vapreon - Surf - Ice Beam Blissey - Thunderbolt - Seismic Toss - SoftBoiled Walrein (SpDef invested4sure) - Waterfall Glalie - Ice Beam Mantine - Surf Drake 2 full Restores Random Lead Salamance - Dclaw Ampharos - Tbolt - Focus Punch Sceptile - Giga Drain Flygon - Earthquake - Dclaw Altaria - Dclaw Kingdra - Surf Champion Wallace 3 Full Restores Random Lead Gyarados - Waterfall - DD Wailord - Waterspout Ludicolo - Leech seed - Giga Drain - Surf Whiscash - Waterfall - Eq Milotic Lefties - Surf - Ice Beam Tentacruel lefties - Surf - Ice Beam -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and some data from 4F. Round 3 Kanto: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And a little from myself. Round 3 Kanto: (I was testing level 50s to see scaling, but I ended up having to fight level 90s lol) Lorelei Lead Articuno - Ice beam Starmie(lefties) - Surf, Thunder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ More: Round 3 - 1st trainer Lead Slowbro - surf Exeg(scarf) - Giga drain Magneton mantine Nidoqueen(heavily sp def invested) - Stoss Lapras - Waterfall, rest 2nd trainer Machamp(lefties) - EQ Heracross(salac) Muk - Shadow Punch Slowbro(lefties) - Surf Primeape Steelix(lefties, lvl100, high sp def) - EQ 3rd trainer Umbreon(lvl 100) - Pursuit Jynx(lvl 100) marowak(lvl 100) - EQ, RS Gyarados(lvl 100) - Waterfall ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More round 3:1st trainer Lead Lapras(lefties, Lvl100) - Ice beam, Rest Nidoqueen(lvl100) - Superfang Raichu(life orb, lvl100) - Volt Tackle, HP Exeg(lefties, lvl100) - Giga Slowking(lefties, lvl100) - Psychic Wigglytuff(lvl100) - Stoss 2nd trainer Slowbro Primeape(life orb) Heracross steelix - EQsss Muk - Shadow Punch, BB Machamp - Cross Chop 3rd trainer Gengar(life orb) - Sbomb Venusaur - EQ Edited July 23, 2016 by KaynineXL Mookynesis, YettoDie, Arimanius and 1 other 4 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 round 2 kanto lorelie: piloswine, cloyster, slowbro, dewgong, jynx, lapras bruno: top, hari, hitmonchan, steelix, hitmonlee, machamp agatha: misdre, muk, crobat, arbok, gengar lance: altaria, gyara, charizard, dragonite, aero, kingdra rival: alakazam, exeggutor, tyranitar, c harizard, heracross hoenn round 2 sidney: absol crawdaunt shiftry sharpedo 2: bannette, ninetales, misdreavus, shedinja, dusclops, sableye glacia: persian vaporeon glalie blissey, mantine drake: sceptile, salamence, ampharos, kingdra, altaria, flygon rival: gyara, whiscash, tentacruel, wailord, ludicolo, milotic Torinnnnn 1 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) well the rival in kanto ran arca vs me instead of exeggutor so i guess it varies, but not too much. its pretty easy to play around with tho. Edited July 23, 2016 by BlackJovi Link to comment
Rache Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 2 hours ago, BlackJovi said: well the rival in kanto ran arca vs me instead of exeggutor so i guess it varies, but not too much. That's because you picked Squirtle. Round 1 and 2 Kanto rival teams depend on which starter you chose, just as they do in Fire Red. KaynineXL, Arimanius and BlackJovi 3 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 1 minute ago, RacheLucario said: That's because you picked Squirtle. Round 1 and 2 Kanto rival teams depend on which starter you chose, just as they do in Fire Red. sounds about right. thanks for clearing it up Link to comment
AbdOuMarley Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 why all npc payouts got decreased now ?? the ruin maniacs they give less than before the update right now , used to collect +5k from them and according to k9 post it should be +6k now so why im only collecting around 4.2k ?? with amulet coin and payday SirYurop 1 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Just now, AbdOuMarley said: why all npc payouts got decreased now ?? the ruin maniacs they give less than before the update right now , used to collect +5k from them and according to k9 post it should be +6k now so why im only collecting around 4.2k ?? with amulet coin and payday dont u check updates? 23/07/2016 updates: Amulet Coin multiplier reduced from 1.5x to 1.25x Elite 4 (Hardest difficulty, lv 100) base payout from 60,000 to 50,000 Link to comment
AbdOuMarley Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 1 minute ago, BlackJovi said: dont u check updates? 23/07/2016 updates: Amulet Coin multiplier reduced from 1.5x to 1.25x Elite 4 (Hardest difficulty, lv 100) base payout from 60,000 to 50,000 didnt get a notification about that damn im shocked , the HYYYYPE didnt last long Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Cleared that shit. Gotta say it's not that easy but it can be done. Here's my info @KaynineXL Kanto round 3 Lorelei: Lum Berry Articuno(Rest), Lefties Lapras(Surf, Ice Beam, Thunder), Scarf Nidoking (Earthquake, Megahorn, Ice Beam), Magneton, Piloswine (Earthquake),Lefties Timid Starmie (Thunder, Recover) Bruno: Lefties Exeggutor (Giga Drain), Golem,Lefties Clefable (Seismic Toss), Lefties Machamp, Hitmontop (Rock Slide, Hi Jump Kick, Earthquake), Blastoise (Counter, Mirror Coat, Surf) Agatha: Life Ball Gengar (Sludge Bomb, Thunderbolt, shadow ball), Lefties Umbreon (Faint Attack),Lefties Venusaur (Bullet Seed), Alakazam, Misdreavus (HP Ice), Life Ball Houndoom (Flamethrower) Lance: Scarf Tyranitar (Rock Slide), Steelix (Crunch),CB/Scarf Dragonite (Dragon Claw), Life Ball Lapras (Thunderbolt, Psychic), CB Gyarados (Waterfall, EQ, Crunch), Lefties Snorlax (Fire Punch) Rival: Life Orb Exeggutor (Giga Drain, Psychic), ScarfJolteon (Hp Ice, Hyper Voice, thunderbolt), Poliwrath, Miltank, Golem (Earthquake), Charizard. Im pretty sure teams are not the same for everyone right? @RacheLucario pls confirm. Edited July 23, 2016 by BlackJovi Arimanius 1 Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 @Desu Do you hate me or something. Just when I finish updating all the island rewards they get changed. oh god. @BlackJoviYeh, I already knew round 1-2 depended on your starter, that's how it's always been. Round 3 definitely changes team/items/maybe even movesets/possibly ev spreads. @RacheLucarioSo I'm sure Round 3 changes teams, do they have premade built teams, or did you create say maybe around 10-15 Pokemon(or sets for the same poke) for each trainer and the game randomly picks out 6 Pokemon out of the 15. The numbers may not be correct, but the mechanics of it, are they right? It would be a great help. Desu you can answer this as well if you like, since you're gonna have me running around the islands again. Arimanius 1 Link to comment
BlackJovi Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Hoenn round 3 Sidney: Leftovers Regirock (Rock Slide), Crobat (Heat Wave, HP Ice), Crawdaunt, Scarf/CB Absol (Megahorn), Shiftry (Aerial Ace), Gligar 2: Ninetales, Life Orb Tropis (Solarbeam), Leftovers Dusclops (Ice Beam, Shadow Ball) Scarf Medicham (HJK, Thunderpunch), Mawille (Body Slam), Scarf Absol (Megahorn) Glacia: Lum BerryMetagross (Earthquake, Light Screen, Reflect, Meteor Mash), Lefties Gardevoir (thunderbolt, Psychic), Nidoqueen (Earthquake, Thunderbolt), Lefties Togetic (Tri Atack), Umbreon (Pursuit), Walrein (Waterfall, Return) Lance: Salamence (Fire Blast), CB Metagross (Thunderpunch, Earthquake), Whiscash (Surf, Rest), Feraligatr, Life Orb Seviper (Sludge Bomb, Flamethrower), Regirock (Rock Slide). Rival: Dragonite, Registeel (Seismic Toss), Lanturn (Thunderbolt, Light Screen, Ice Beam), Specs/Scarf Tentacruel (Giga Drain, Ice Beam), Milotic (Ice Beam), Ludicolo (Bullet Seed, Waterfall, Ice Punch) my work here is done. e4 is eaz. KatheFoster 1 Link to comment
Rache Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Just now, KaynineXL said: @RacheLucarioSo I'm sure Round 3 changes teams, do they have premade built teams, or did you create say maybe around 10-15 Pokemon(or sets for the same poke) for each trainer and the game randomly picks out 6 Pokemon out of the 15. The numbers may not be correct, but the mechanics of it, are they right? It would be a great help. Desu you can answer this as well if you like, since you're gonna have me running around the islands again. The teams are pre-made. How many there are though, is something for you guys to figure out~ Link to comment
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