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bro, you're completely wrong, about everything you said in this topic, keep writing, it doesn't change anything and it will never change anything because you're wrong.

its like, you have a chess table.
90% of people doesn't know how to use the horse (the stall, in this case.)
90% of people loses against a good horse's user (the stall, in this case.)
and 10% of people destroy noobs with the horses.
you see people changing the horses or making rules to not use them? NO. Because its part of the game.
Examples like this I can give you lots of them, you know why ? because there's a lot of games harder to play more than PokeMMO and the meta here, and complaining about stall is at least to me, ridiculous when you got bunch of ways to stop them while being a newbie. Compared to League of Legends! for example this game is nothing difficult.
This topic was created because the items are completely unfair, and for good reason, the tops between tops are losing and winning against this, as you can see in the screenshot that I just gave you because it seems like you don't know much about the current state of the duels in that area, abusing of this item for obvious reasons.
As I said, keep writing.
If you really want to do something make a vote thread so I can go and touch the dislike button and so the community will do the same, because you're wrong.

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so, you are telling us, in a thread that is king's rock related, that we should ban the worst of the three main game styles of playing and also the less used of the three, just because the newbies and you doesn't know how to build a team including wall-breakers and because is "boring" to you?... are you serious ?, sorry i can't understand your way of thinking or the way of thinking of your probably friend upthere, i'm not replying to this again.

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This is Wrong and you should try to listen. 6-Wall team doesn't necessarily drag the game for long. What it does is exhaust the enemy team's resources until they are unable to keep going with momento and therefore crumble. This also mean that while a Wall team against a Wall team will most likely drag, a wall team against an offensive team will not. In this latter case, either the wall team exhausts the offensive team quickly enough and wins, or the offensive team punches through the defensive team quickly enough and wins. As an offensive player, pretty much all all my games are within the 10 min mark, no matter if I face offense or defense. 
 
The problem here is not the wall teams. It is you failed to adapt your team to deal with those, and therefore lack an way to punch through the defense system, thus dragging the game. Do not ever forget a Pokemon game is played by 2 players. If your games drag for needlessly long, opposing wall teams are just part of the problem, the other part is your own team. My advice is actually try to learn and gather information, and pick wallbreakers that destroy stall. I have seen players with less than 2 months actually succeed and reach top 100, so there is no reason for you, or anyone else for that matter, to struggle where they did not. As long as you learn how to adapt, I promise you will have a much greater time playing this game. It is not easy, and you will not learn everything in 1 day or 1 week, but with some effort and adaptation anyone can do it. 

You bring a valid point about newer players struggling more against more defensive teams. However, just like any game, the competitive meta is, and should be, decided solely by competitive aspects, and not knowing the game isn't one of them. 
Examples:
if I start play Yu-gi-oh and struggle against OTK decks that summon 560 monsters in half a turn, but the top players don't, it is a ME problem and the meta shouldn't, in any case, change because of it. 
If I start playing League, and my ADC is always rekt by the bulky bruisers with some sort of CC because I cannot successfully poke or engage at a perfect time, that is a newbie problem and shouldn't reflect the meta.
I get that it may be annoying for you. It was annoying for me and for many others. But luckily you don't need to be a pro. Most of top 100 nowadays aren't even that good and if they are there, it is because they succeed. All you need to understand, for now, is that some matchups are inherently easy/hard for others. If you struggle with Wall teams, nothing prevents you from picking a taunt Hydreigon or a Banded Darmanitan, or even a mixed Dragonite or a Sheer Force Conkeldurr and destroy them left and right. 
 
Now I will try to explain why your logic is flawed with a bit of bias. I am mostly an offensive player. Most of my teams, the moment I build them, are inherently weak to Rain teams, and they make me have to go through outrageously cycles of outplays to even have a chance of winning. Does this make Rain broken? No, this means Rain has a superior matchup against my teams. So what do I have to do? Adapt, and change the team in order to be slightly more resilient to said Rain. In other words, Rain isn't problematic because it shutdowns Hyper offense, the same way full Stall isn't problematic just because it shutdowns specific balanced builds that do not pack an wallbreaker. So, all you need is to adapt.
 
In sum, I believe anyone is entitled to their opinion, even newer guys, but I also believe newer guys should try to learn from what more experienced people say. If successful people claim Walls aren't problematic then most likely they are not and there are plenty of ways to deal with those (skillfully). The problem I see is that some (not all) newer people are just incredibly stubborn and believe Pokemon is a game where everything should work equally, and therefore their teams and their style should equally work against everything. (Trust me I used to be like this), where in reality Pokemon is simply an adapting process, where some styles are inherently weaker than others, and as such anyone, new or old, should and try to use teams that succeed against the given meta.
 
There are also plenty of guides in these forums to check out and learn from.
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Here we are don't talking about walls or whatever walls do here, and shutdown-ing completely the walls will never happen because IT IS A PLAYSTYLE.
If you think that is with no doubts unfair, you should watch the best players are using HO or Balanced, and the minority, Stall, and if you see a player who is winning using Stall, it is simply because his opponents doesn't have anything to stop them. simply as that.
King's Rock is not supposed to trigger more flinch effect in attacks that already have Flinch effect, and cloyster's x5 attack and no previous flinch effect almost guarantee it will unfair win because of this reason and that's why this thread was created. 


I saw a lot of games past season, and played a lot of games too, and I can say that Stall or any variant of stall is not overpowered it is just a playstyle, in fact, his brothers Balanced and HO are WAY BETTER in the actual meta.
players who wins with Stall you can count them with your hands and players who wins with balanced of HO you can't count.
if stall would be better in this meta, the majority of players will run stall obviously, or copying a famous stall team if they like the playstyle, but its nothing compared who the teams who actually win the majority of games.
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to use Cloyster kings rock is to play hoping to benefit from rng and win because of it.  
Cloyster king's rock is literally to bet what the 50% of chance of flinch to knock down your pokémon who deals with him. is the same what to play one coin for decide if you go knock down the Cloyster or lose you pokémon to 50%  the rng. where the pokemon that resist an Icicle Spear at +2 are steel pokemon like skarmory that doesn't drop Cloyster even if it survives. Magnezone and Ferrothorn which runs the risk of being flinched and falling off doing nothing. Rotom-wash that goes the same way. so you are dependent on priorities of pokemons like bullet punch Scizor that resists because it is steel, Lucario vaccunn wave, Conkeldur mach punch but if you click drain punch you can lose the conk to the rng. another priority would be Infernape mach punch but it doesn't drop in one, thus asking for a second priority to finish. Cloyster king's rock is seeking to decide the duel in a 50% chance. a duel in the game's pvp being decided by a simple toss of a coin.              
is the same what to play one coin for decide if you go knock down the cloyster o
   

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Stall in this moment is easy to control and play against.


I stopped playing stall because of this tho.
they have a big thread explaining why both were banned, and its more likely to ban Garchomp or release it without sword dance, same process with Hydreigon.
time limit is 60min not like past years were duels run forever, and you can emulate Hydreigon by using Nasty Plot and Garchomp Sword Dance by using Hone Claws + Dragon Rush, like the Garchomps in the actual meta.
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