FNTCZ
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11 hours ago, Parke said:
Me & @LKrenz playing soon, whenever he gets back from his dinner
So does this count as setting a specific time? @DaftCoolio
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5 hours ago, DaftCoolio said:
It really isn't, all people have to do is nailed down a time, which if you had done would of got you the win.
He asks to play, and then disconnects, obviously he can't play.
So reading through those logs Hopy linked of sparkie logging in. He logs in, posts "thought there was a post?" at 23:21:24. Doesn't post anything until 23:24:57 where you get "xSparkie has reconnected." Which would mean he had disconnected some time between 23:21:24 and 23:24:57. In which time, in fact 7 seconds before he reconnects, you post "not to be a uguu but I do have to work @7am tomorrow morning...". It is not just possible, but incredibly likely sparkie was disconnected when you posted that and didn't see the message. He then posts "i need to sleep for work, @ me on dc if nothing happens tonight". In the six or so minutes between that post and him logging out, you say nothing. Hard to say sparkie did anything unsportsmanlike, just a victim of circumstance.
Saying I said something which I didn't isnt unsportsmanlike like? That's straight up LYING.
What about him not answering or doing nothing when asking to make a sub?
Also both axl and sparkie had connection issues yet we were the one paying for it, im sorry what?
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26 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said:
coming to me at the 11th hour asking for an extension is poor planning and poor planning on Julian and ghost's part isnt enough justifiction
No, the justificacion is a nation wide power outage, which imo is enough
27 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said:the precedent this would set wouldnt be great.
Your current decision sets an even worse presedent, as @pachima noted, it's ridiculous and abusable.
29 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said:I havent had a chance to read through the chat logs you posted but i will once i finish work. If there is anything relevant showing a specific time was agreed upon im more than happy to change the decision. But if its just ghost logging in, saying he can play and then disconnecting i just dont see that as setting a time.
Two things here, one, I dont see how axl asking to play rn and me agreeing and posting on forums, going to vermi 4 isn't seen as "setting a time" it's as clear as it gets. Second, the logs are less about axl and more about Sparkie's response to the whole thing, he claimed today that I said something that I didn't (Look a few of my posts back for the exact quote) which is straight up lying. The logs also show how hes made aware that his player isn't showing up, told about the venezuela thing (which he also claims to have learned about today, when he was in fact told yesterday) and also show me specifically saying how I had to work monday @7am, with all of this considered, his response was: going to sleep as I stayed awake looking for his player, then waiting for the next day and then making the sub, knowing that I couldnt make it on that time. If not scummy that is, at the very least, an unesportmant-like attitude on his part, contrary to the "great effort" he claims to have made to get the match propperly played which was one of your own arguments to call a no contest. How could a person put a lot of effort with good intents and be unesportmantlike at the same time? the answer is simple: it's not possible.
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3 minutes ago, NagaX said:
We try play before the deadline, against u or any player of your team, is exactly the same thing.
So it was all a coincidence that instead of acting rigjt awat you waited and picked the time when I said I couldn't play, kk.
Was making the sub @Sunday10pm not within the deadline? Then why did you guys not do it?
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1 minute ago, NagaX said:
Idk, what stopping they make a sub monday morning before the deadline?
So you're not dodging me? XD
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4 minutes ago, NagaX said:
Kepzal should be sleeping too, and we try he wake up and come to game to play. Its easy, u cant fight BEFORE the deadline? Make a sub. And srlsy, you know (like everyone else) the electrical problems that went beyond normal, using that to pretend that AxL is afraid of you is really fun.
I never said axl was afraid, I said your team was. And they showed it by waiting for me not to be able to play to make a sub. You showed it by not even attempting to make an extension happen, you wanted to play when I couldn't and that's shady.
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Just now, NagaX said:
You act as if we were afraid of you, or as if you were a great player. Wake up, you're one more, play vs Julian or play against any of your team is exactly the same.
Then why was my team the only one asking for an extension?? Sparkie was like "nolol i subbed my players hours after I knew yours couldn't play so now you make a substitution aswell on monday morning while everyone should be either working or sleeping xd"
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3 minutes ago, fredrichnietze said:
different host. personally im a bit more heartless and would lean towards "oh well your fucked sorry m8" but it's the host call. the whole reason we have a host and not just rules is because rules cant outline every possible problem and someone needs to make that call. he did now get over it.
A call that punishes a team for actually showing up to the match? Lmao talk about hearthless
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Just now, NagaX said:
Because nobody know how much time AxL cant login. All us are waiting for him, but when was clearly he dont come, we make a sub.
Ofcourse the right time for y'all to realise that was not one hour of him not showing up but instead you pick the time I told you I couldn't play, lolk
It seems like coincidences do happen :0
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1 minute ago, fredrichnietze said:
im unbiased i dont even know whos in what team and coolio is right. context of the venuzeal thing matters
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_Venezuela
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/with-massive-south-america-blackout-over-hunt-is-on-for-the-cause/
internet there was already bottom of the worlds barrel before the economy collapsed and the government started shutting down power/data. should a player whos internet gets shut down be penalized for saying he could play now, when at the time he could and 5 seconds later he couldnt? it's a judgement call and a tough one and coolio made it and gave his reasons for it. drop your bias
No, but his manager should be punished for this:
7 minutes ago, FNTCZ said:Why wouldn't he then make a sub right away when he was online and instead decide to wait 8 hours after the match was supposed to happen to make it on a time where I told him I couldn't play? : thinking_emoji:
Even back to the unfortunate connection issues, Yetto had them last psl yet he has to take the L anyways.
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Why wouldn't he then make a sub right away when he was online and instead decide to wait 8 hours after the match was supposed to happen to make it on a time where I told him I couldn't play? : thinking_emoji:
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10 minutes ago, Xigbar said:
I'm not a player of the PSL but this drama is hot. I think a no contest is fair for both parts. Watching it in a neutral zone without knowing any of the players and reading all the things happen, no contest is a fair decision, that's my opinon, the host has the power to just say "Thats my final decision, you can think I'm the worst host in the psl other ones will think the contrary thing so Fuck off decision taken and no reply o appeal" but he still answering, nice host, nice drama, waiting for more.
Except sparkie, the other team's manager, is lying. in the PSL's discord someone posted the logs of the normal chat and it showed me saying that I had to work the next day and it did not show me saying that I knew Axl was coming back, because I never said that! yet according to sparkie he heard the second thing that I supposedly said but not the first I actually did. Either he was hallucinating or just bullshiting but there's no other way around that.
Edit: am on phone but here's the screenshot
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19 minutes ago, xSparkie said:
I was already sleeping but his notification woke me up so I got on for a few mins. You said AxL got on and then disconnected again so I figured he was coming back. I wasn't updated on the whole Venezuela thing until later on.
You saw him disconnect after he had said that he had power problems earlier that thay, how did you "figure he was coming back" then? I call bs. And somehow you thought that I said he was coming back (like I would know, lmao what???) But didn't catch the part where I said I had to work monday morning? Being sleepy is one thing but this is something else you might've aswell been daydreaming with such imagination.
And by the way, the "whole Venezuela thing" is now been going on for years. Just in mmo players have had this issue in previous PSLs and world cup matches as well as automated tournaments, and that's just in this game. Are you telling me you weren't aware that Venezuela is in crisis and the government has had trouble keeping a constant source of power/water/food ever since Chavez's death? Not knowing that is not an argument for this discussion, it's living under a rock.
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Ok, since I couldn't get a straight answer to any of my points by neither @DaftCoolio or @xSparkie in the private chat about last weeks decision I decided to leave it here in public instead so they can't dodge.
Coolio, since every psl ever posting on forums that you're playing in 10 minutes is setting a time and that time is 10 minutes after the post. We agreed on that time. That's just how it's always been. He reconected at 11:40 pm: a whole two hours after the agreed upon time (that's what am calling it from here) and 20 minutes before midnight, even his manager and the whole vermilion crowd that came to spectate the match were gone by that point, so was I.
At last that's what it comes down to. A specific time was set and not met by one of the parties. I told his manager in normal chat that I wasn't available to play the next day because of work, maybe he didn't read that because he was sleepy but how am I responsible for that? He and his captain were online at the time aswell as two available valid subs, they knew axl wasn't showing on time to the match yet they didn't act immediately but rather waited 8 hours after the fact to try and make a substitution with a terrible timing (monday morning, couple of hours before the deadline is the worst time to try and get your opponent to find a new player available to play because most people are sleeping if they don't have to work or working if they do).
A void makes no sense, that gives the w to sparkies teams and it's basically rewarding them by not showing up OR trying to solve the problem on time.
Axl might have had technical issues, sure that is comprenhensible altought it doesn't mean he didnt commit the fault, in previous psl's players have dc'd while having the match won yet they had to eat the L because even if it wasn't in their control, they still commited the fault (ie: YettoDie's match last psl comes to mind, he was up 5-2 with timbur in vs 2 fighting weak mons on the opposing side, not even double crits coulda killed him after drain punch recovery, he dc'd and he had to eat the L even if it wasn't his fault. I think there was another one involving an earthquake or something like that. Even I have been awarded a yellow card for not putting dnd on even when I was recording and I could prove with that video that I wasnt whispering anyone and I simply forgot about enabling it, no malicious intentions).
But anyways, what really really pissed me off is sparkie being online, knowing that his player isnt showing up and saying "well, gonna go to sleep anyways, got work tomorrow morning" ffs I had to work the next day aswell yet I stood there waiting for his player to show up or his manager to solve the thing: the former didn't and the later went to sleep LMAO. you just can't call making a substitution 8 hours after you knew of what happened and 8 hours before the deadline on a MONDAY MORNING as "putting in a lot of effort", I'm sorry but you just can't say that if you didn't even try and stay awake to actually put in said effort.
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11 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said:
AxLKGhost vs iJulianFNT. What this really boils down to is that no specific time was set
Im sorry but my ass no specific time was set.
We met at the vermilion 4 table and posted on forums that we were going to play in 10 minutes. THAT IS SETTING A SPECIFIC TIME. 10 MINUTES AFTER THE POST.
He didn't dc immediately after posting, he went offline at about 10:20pm, that's 20 minutes after we said we were going to play
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7 minutes ago, gbwead said:
1 mil on Zokuru
Take.
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1 hour ago, FNTCZ said:
It almost didn't happend.
Me vs AXL in 10 minutes.
It didn't happen.
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3 minutes ago, Toast said:
my team trying to reach its expectations
Aint nobody saying at least we dont got the best memes
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23 minutes ago, DaftCoolio said:
Doubles: MaatthewMLG
Hes no longer scared :O
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Just now, Gunthug said:
Honestly, I don’t blame you. The problem with having a spine is sometimes you have to back up your shit talk. It’s safer this way
I don't think i've ever not backed my shit talk tho
Just now, Archon said:Have you ever seen luke and zhiko in the same room before? (with different looks ofc)
I thought not.
[PSL XI] Week 4
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And what If I said I was free on Sunday after 4pm? hmmm @DaftCoolio
Around? Brother that ain't specific time @DaftCoolio punish that man