kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 a lot of players get discouraged to breed because of the -8 to +3, besides, ""most"" of players hate the breeding part and have no fun at it whatsoever so i think iv inheritance should be boosted to an equal amount of - and + or even a greater chance of a + that and/or reducing hatching times or flags needed i know some old players want to secure their places by making it hard to newcomers who were not able to breed dittos and still don't have a fully bred team, but i think this will produce more comp players as result Link to comment
FlareBlitzz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Correction : Dittos can't be breeded. Edit : Also, Breeding is already insanely easy, why make it even more easier lol ? Sleepy, PrinceDaisuke, Mataiden and 1 other 4 Link to comment
musikAa Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Correction : Dittos can't be breeded. Edit : Also, Breeding is already insanely easy, why make it even more easier lol ? Totally agreed with Flare. Link to comment
axx Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 > not knowing how it was before the -8/+3 heaven Heimann, Diogoalves, Pidgeysaurus and 1 other 4 Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Correction : Dittos can't be breeded. Edit : Also, Breeding is already insanely easy, why make it even more easier lol ? in the past you could breed dittos, so old players have insane ones it takes weeks to breed a poke, more if you start without breeders Link to comment
TheGloriousWalrus Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 in the past you could breed dittos, so old players have insane ones it takes weeks to breed a poke, more if you start without breeders I have bred pokemons better than the parents in half an hour multiple times. Breeding is easy as fuck, in team bong we litterally throw good UTs around like there's no tommorow. tl;dr make friends, get in a team, lend from eachother to speed up the process Link to comment
FlareBlitzz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 in the past you could breed dittos, so old players have insane ones it takes weeks to breed a poke, more if you start without breeders When dittos were breedable, breeding was hard. Tit 4 tat Pidgeysaurus 1 Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 breeding even 4x 31s with a 5x 31s takes ages thus most of the time the ivs are reduced and besides, as said, people dont enjoy the breeding process, so why making it so long? Link to comment
TheGloriousWalrus Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 breeding even 4x 31s with a 5x 31s takes ages thus most of the time the ivs are reduced and besides, as said, people dont enjoy the breeding process, so why making it so long? uwot, I enjoy breeding, I know a lot who enjoy breeding simply because it's so easy plus ive worked with much worse breeders than 31s and the offspring still was amazing. Pidgeysaurus and Seoulex 2 Link to comment
FlareBlitzz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 breeding even 4x 31s with a 5x 31s takes ages thus most of the time the ivs are reduced and besides, as said, people dont enjoy the breeding process, so why making it so long? Lol someone hasn't tried breeding since the update. Or Someone doesnt have 31 parents. Dude buy some good pokemon and breed them. There's godly everywhere. You want a 31/31/31/31/31/31 pokemon on every single team? There'll be no fun in that. Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Lol someone hasn't tried breeding since the update. Or Someone doesnt have 31 parents. Dude buy some good pokemon and breed them. There's godly everywhere. You want a 31/31/31/31/31/31 pokemon on every single team? There'll be no fun in that. if you read, you'll see i just said even with 4x 31s mom with 5x31s dad took me weeks to breed, and yes, after the update and walrus, well, i know most people just breed because its necessary for the metagame, but it brings them way more stress than joy, many quit due to it Link to comment
FlareBlitzz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 if you read, you'll see i just said even with 4x 31s mom with 5x31s dad took me weeks to breed, and yes, after the update and walrus, well, i know most people just breed because its necessary for the metagame, but it brings them way more stress than joy, many quit due to it Well with those parents you're sure to get 23+ on all babies and that's way godly. How would it be fun getting all babies with only 31s? The game will only become boring. Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Well with those parents you're sure to get 23+ on all babies and that's way godly. How would it be fun getting all babies with only 31s? The game will only become boring. not on every stat nor in desire ones, you have to directly inherit the 31s, then pray for the matching ones to not go under (thing that surely will happen due to the -8), then level to ensure the ivs, ensure nature and ability, gender, etc. not to mention genderless who depend only on ditto to breed and even if it was the average of both parents without range, it would take to players some time of inbreeding, having they didn't just begin and have no breeders Link to comment
Affan07 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I have bred pokemons better than the parents in half an hour multiple times. Breeding is easy as fuck, in team bong we litterally throw good UTs around like there's no tommorow. tl;dr make friends, get in a team, lend from eachother to speed up the process I give free 5x30-31 pokemons. Link to comment
FlareBlitzz Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 not on every stat nor in desire ones, you have to directly inherit the 31s, then pray for the matching ones to not go under (thing that surely will happen due to the -8), then level to ensure the ivs, ensure nature and ability, gender, etc. not to mention genderless who depend only on ditto to breed and even if it was the average of both parents without range, it would take to players some time of inbreeding, having they didn't just begin and have no breeders Lol this game is about hard work. Grinding and getting what you want is the best satisfaction. You haven't seen how difficult breeding was earlier. It's a million times easier, so stop complaining. If you're that lazy and want every pokemon 6x 31 without hard work, then sorry to sound rude, but this game isn't for you then. Just get used to it, like everyone. Also, this a totally irrelevant suggestion. Suggestion deletion. Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Lol this game is about hard work. Grinding and getting what you want is the best satisfaction. You haven't seen how difficult breeding was earlier. It's a million times easier, so stop complaining. If you're that lazy and want every pokemon 6x 31 without hard work, then sorry to sound rude, but this game isn't for you then. Just get used to it, like everyone. Also, this a totally irrelevant suggestion. Suggestion deletion. work is about work, a game is about just doing fun things, so when i come back from work, i just wanna have fun playing pokemmo so? it was a hell and now just a torture, could still be better i've been breeding months so this is more to new players, i've seen new players getting discouraged to continue because of it. the game would be more funny overall with better breeding Link to comment
Gilan Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 a lot of players get discouraged to breed because of the -8 to +3, besides, ""most"" of players hate the breeding part and have no fun at it whatsoever so i think iv inheritance should be boosted to an equal amount of - and + or even a greater chance of a + that and/or reducing hatching times or flags needed i know some old players want to secure their places by making it hard to newcomers who were not able to breed dittos and still don't have a fully bred team, but i think this will produce more comp players as result no, just...no If anything it should be made more difficult. Godlies now sell for nothing becuase of the -8/+3 . It has ruined the economy, imo. This is a classic example of new players who don't want to invest time in the game to become good. The fact of the matter is that this game is a mmo, which requires a great deal of time investment to reach the higher tiers of the game. Everything shouldn't be given to you. I'm guessing that you were not around at the time that breeding was easier than it is now? basically straight 31 pokes were relatively easy to obtain, which is not good for an mmo. It's like allowing goblins to drop patry hats (sorry for the rs reference). If you want to make perfect teams, then go to showdown. A part of this game is showing off one's dedication to the game. If breeding is made so much easier, then you might as well go play showdown instead. edit: well i guess you aren't necessarily a new player, but still... also, it really isn't worth trying to get perfect 31's on every single poke... Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 a lot of players get discouraged to breed because of the -8 to +3, besides, ""most"" of players hate the breeding part and have no fun at it whatsoever so i think iv inheritance should be boosted to an equal amount of - and + or even a greater chance of a + that and/or reducing hatching times or flags needed i know some old players want to secure their places by making it hard to newcomers who were not able to breed dittos and still don't have a fully bred team, but i think this will produce more comp players as result You must be new here. Praise be to the heavenly "-8/+3 breeding system". PinkWings 1 Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 no, just...no If anything it should be made more difficult. so you are saying that without having your team fully bred? Godlies now sell for nothing becuase of the -8/+3 . It has ruined the economy, imo. they said the same about payday and still brought it back, and i think it would actually do good to it since low price pokemon are more affordable to new players, lowering the difference between incomes This is a classic example of new players who don't want to invest time in the game to become good i already expended months breeding and am mostly settled up, but it was stressful, and not as fun as a game is supposed to be, it discourages players from making comp teams, what lowers the amount of comp players I'm guessing that you were not around at the time that breeding was easier than it is now? basically straight 31 pokes were relatively easy to obtain, which is not good for an mmo. but that only makes a bigger difference between older and newer players, that are not able to breed a perfect ditto for their personal use, it just makes a huge gap making pokemon to so hard to breed would, besides inciting players to play comp, to try out more pokes Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 so you are saying that without having your team fully bred? He's a comp player with a fully established team. they said the same about payday and still brought it back, and i think it would actually do good to it since low price pokemon are more affordable to new players, lowering the difference between incomes When the breeding change was first implemented it was "-6/+3" for about 1 day, but this made breeding wayyyyyyyyy too easy and many raged resulting in it being nerfed until it was finally settled on "-8/+3". Also breeding now gives newer players the advantage in comp play as they start with these great comps, while some older players still use their outdated pokemon. i already expended months breeding and am mostly settled up, but it was stressful, and not as fun as a game is supposed to be, it discourages players from making comp teams, what lowers the amount of comp players I'm not sure you've been around all that long if you are still asking for breeding to be improved. but that only makes a bigger difference between older and newer players, that are not able to breed a perfect ditto for their personal use, it just makes a huge gap making pokemon to so hard to breed would besides incite players to play comp, to try out more pokes The recent breeding bump has helped to improve the competitive scene. Also, dittos are unable to be bred as previously stated. And "so hard to breed" is like the worse statement I have ever seen on these forums. My advice: Join an established team, get some great breeders, breed a GOD in 5 eggs, and c'mon man quit yo' bitchin. Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 My advice: Join an established team, get some great breeders, breed a GOD in 5 eggs, and c'mon man quit yo' bitchin. you sound so angry and are not acknowledging what im saying also, if breeding requires you being handled a god breeder to start the process, you know something is wrong with it Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 you sound so angry and are not acknowledging what im saying also, if breeding requires you being handled a god breeder to start the process, you know something is wrong with it It doesn't require it, it just takes work just like anything else. I was simply advising that to help you out. And I believe I've acknowledged everything you've said, exluding the "breeding should be fun" part. My opinion on that, breeding shouldn't be fun. It's the part that you have to work towards in order to establish yourself in this game. Let's just say it's more fun than before and most of us are greatly appreciative of this. Link to comment
JonazDK Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 in the past you could breed dittos, so old players have insane ones it takes weeks to breed a poke, more if you start without breeders if it takes week to breed a comp not worth it farm some money and buy comps then.... i think it is pretty common for me to breed a comp in a day... and i often see useable comps for under 30k Link to comment
kakalxlax Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 if it takes week to breed a comp not worth it farm some money and buy comps then.... i think it is pretty common for me to breed a comp in a day... and i often see useable comps for under 30k not addressing the stated issues but ok Link to comment
JohanLiebheart Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is not going to happen, and if you do not understand the reasons that many COMP AND EXPERIENCED players already gave to you, and you want an easy game for babies, go and download an emulator, and play FireRed with gameshark. Link to comment
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