Implemented Shinies will always breed shinies.

[OldKeith]

Now that the Pokemmocalypse has begun, and there is no stop to the breeding slaughterfest, I suggest that two shiny parents will have a 100% chance of producing a shiny baby. While in the previous breeding system this would have generated an infinity of shinies, this is a good opportunity to try and give a competitive edge to shinies, while reducing their population as well. I see no downsides to this, except perhaps an increase in the value of rare female shinies, and common male shinies.

 

Discuss.

 

UPDATE: Thanks for feedback guys, I can now create a list of possible value changes:

 

• Increase in value for common male shinies, because they can breed with a fully evolved female to obtain the first shiny form.
• Increase in value for Ditto, because they can breed with a fully evolved pokemon to obtain the first shiny form.
• Decrese in value for the first forms of the evolutionary line for the reasons stated above.
• Increase in values for shinies with good natures or IVs, regardless of rarity.

I think this would come along nicely with the new breeding system, and finally we will be able to improve our shinies, although it will be a costly process. Because comps will already soar in prices, adding the option to breed for shiny comps will allow the sparkling ones to remain into a close balance with the normal comps. Players will have to decide by themselves if they consider an average IV shiny more valuable than a godly comp, or not.

[flavajabari]

i dunno about this,

what about shiny ditto + x ?

[Uroko]

Only shinies with shinies?  Very interesting.  I wonder how many shinies worth breeding with this new system exist.

[OldKeith]

i dunno about this,

what about shiny ditto + x ?

 

So you lose a shiny ditto to get a baby of its partner?

Remember you need two shinies to produce one, that might be better or not.

Edited December 31, 2014 by keithgalbraith

[flavajabari]

So you lose a shiny ditto to get a baby of its partner?

 

yea i guess its not so bad, just ditto value raising alooooot but i dont really care.

it means i could finally get some OT shinies, and see some sweet shinies in tourneys.

 

still not sure about this, wanna see more opinions

 

maybe another 'issue' is alrdy evo'd shinies?

sack a vap & a ditto, get an eevee,

 

well its not really an issue, just something to keep in mind.

Edited December 31, 2014 by flavajabari

[Uroko]

Oh, I thought this was both parents had to be shinies.

[flavajabari]

Oh, I thought this was both parents had to be shinies.

 

it still is?

[Uroko]

Are there that many shiny dittos out there that they can just be thrown around like that, then?

[flavajabari]

Are there that many shiny dittos out there that they can just be thrown around like that, then?

 

thats why i said their value will rise alot, but yes theres a good amount of shiny dittos.

[TheGloriousWalrus]

That's a really intriguing suggestion actually.

However could this not be used to "upgrade" your shiny? For example shiny Growlithe is worth less than a shiny arcanine

 

If one were to have a shiny female arcanine and breed that with a shiny male persian, essentialy you're gaining profit from such a "trade", no?

 

Edit: Didn't see flava already brought that up

Edited December 31, 2014 by TheGloriousWalrus

[flavajabari]

That's a really intriguing suggestion actually.

However could this not be used to "upgrade" your shiny? For example shiny Growlithe is worth less than a shiny arcanine

 

If one were to have a shiny female arcanine and breed that with a shiny male persian, essentialy you're gaining profit from such a "trade", no?

 

Edit: Didn't see flava already brought that up

 

shiny arca + decent iv persian for an OT growlithe, i'm down.

my tales is females, letsgoooooo

[Uroko]

Potentially risking dropping the value on vulpix doing that, even if by an insignificant number though yeah?

Edited December 31, 2014 by Uroko

[flavajabari]

Potentially risking dropping the value on vulpix doing that, even if by an insignificant number though yeah?

 

how so ?

 

not that i mind, i wouldn't trade it, but why would it drop?

[Uroko]

Because there would be more vulpix out there to be had?  The more there is of something the less rare it becomes and that eventually would lead to a drop in price?

[flavajabari]

Because there would be more vulpix out there to be had?  The more there is of something the less rare it becomes and that eventually would lead to a drop in price?

 

but how are there more vulpix, if everyone who does this has to sacrifice his first pix/tales to get there?

wouldn't the number stay the same?

[Uroko]

I was assuming the sacrifice of Ninetales only, the number of vulpix would increase, the number of ninetales would decrease.

[flavajabari]

I was assuming the sacrifice of Ninetales only, the number of vulpix would increase, the number of ninetales would decrease.

 

ooh yes, correct, but i doubt it would matter much on vulpix, since ninetales is the more desired one.

maybe on shinies like ursaring it would matter more, cause theres alot of ursa and very few teddi, which are very desired.

 

either way i feel like its a risk well worth it for an OT and potentially comp shiny.

Edited January 1, 2015 by flavajabari

[OldKeith]

Well, this will only allow species to have a set value with less fluctuation, as now you can not only evolve them, but take them back to first stage with a ditto. As for dittos, I have seen 5-6 shiny ones, but all of them had poor ivs. Mine has 31 special defense, and 31 total on the other 5.

 

[spoiler]inb4 accused of plotting a rise in ditto value[/spoiler]

Edited January 1, 2015 by keithgalbraith

[kemaric]

Shiny Ditto + shiny starter OP

[OldKeith]

Shiny Ditto + shiny starter OP

 

Shiny Ditto + Shiny Starter = Shiny Starter (and no more Ditto)

 

Will update on possible shiny value changes.

 

EDIT: Updated first post with a first glance analysis of value impacts.

Edited January 1, 2015 by keithgalbraith

[xXKhryon]

Shiny Ditto + Shiny Starter = Shiny Starter (and no more Ditto)

 

Will update on possible shiny value changes.

 

Shiny ditto + shiny charizard = shiny charmander = big profit = gg

RIP ditto but who cares, the guy made like 50m profit : chari => charmander

Edited January 1, 2015 by xXKhryon

[OldKeith]

Shiny ditto + shiny charizard = shiny charmander = big profit = gg

RIP ditto but who cares, the guy made like 50m profit : chari => charmander

 

Would that not drop the value of Charmander instead of making the guy profit so big? My point is that it would create a more level field of value in every evolutionary line.

[flavajabari]

its not like this only works with dittos, if your zard is female you can just breed it with a male cubone or something.
 

[xXKhryon]

Would that not drop the value of Charmander instead of making the guy profit so big? My point is that it would create a more level field of value in every evolutionary line.

Why would his value drop ? and anyway I wouldnt even care coz OT > all

its not like this only works with dittos, if your zard is female you can just breed it with a male cubone or something.
 

Yeah ofc but I took the kemaric's exemple

[flavajabari]

also, this could potentially exploit nincadas,

lel i know its a long shot but this would mean they can just breed endless shiny nincadas.

 

It evolves into Ninjask starting at level 20. Additionally, if the player has a spare slot in the party and an extra Poké Ball, a Shedinja will appear in the player's party when Nincada evolves