Darkshade Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I dont like this idea :v flavajabari, fredrichnietze, Ronax and 14 others 17 Link to comment
londark Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I dont like this idea :v Oldkeith why u do dis OT Shiny Teddi tho Jate 1 Link to comment
flavajabari Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 "It drastically lowers the value of any Pokemon in the first stages of evolution - especially the babies": Whilst this is true, I don't believe this to be an issue. Shinies are still considered valuable and exciting and it still an achievement to find one, I do not believe anybody should drastically benefit in monetary value because they were able to obtain a shiny due to getting lucky with an RNG roll in the breeding mechanic instead of getting lucky with the RNG roll of finding a Pokemon in the wild. i think that it would more likely raise the value of the allready evo'd shinies, rather than lower the value of the prevo's. they would probably meet somewhere in the middle, leaning to the prevo's current value. this is just speculation ofcourse, but knowing shiny traders, they would get the most out of any situation. Darkshade 1 Link to comment
CruelDeath Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Lol i only held that , thats not mine :DDDD ~ I just dont want another aspect of the game i really like being ruined Link to comment
flavajabari Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Lol i only held that , thats not mine :DDDD ~ I just dont want another aspect of the game i really like being ruined how does it ruin it though? it finally gives shinies some use rather than just stand in virid with them. Eggplant and doggydom 2 Link to comment
CruelDeath Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 OT Shiny Teddi tho I really dont care about a OT shiny teddy if it means to ruin shiny trading (i already like my shiny teddy ;3) Hi5 Link to comment
Eggplant Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) With this system, it'd actually give a purpose to the lower-end shinies. You want to breed a comp rhydon for OU? Why not start your chain by looking for a shiny one on trade chat? People will actually purchase some low-tier shinies for the end goal, rather than to rip off the next guy by selling it for more or less of a profit. Nobody buys shinies for any other reason than to sell it again, and that's kinda sad. Edited January 6, 2015 by Eggplant doggydom, Undrdatree, flavajabari and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Vorred Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 lol, i could breed DRFT's OT shinies and make them my OT i like it dedegendut, BurntZebra, flavajabari and 1 other 4 Link to comment
CruelDeath Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 So , for example, i own a shiny arcanine (female) , i just go buy a shiny rat (male) or a ditto(lets face it its cheaper than most cute shinies) , i put in daycare , i get a lvl 1 growlithe , thats kinda ,,,,,,, bullshit ._. JaimieLannister and Quakkz 2 Link to comment
doggydom Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) So , for example, i own a shiny arcanine (female) , i just go buy a shiny rat (male) or a ditto(lets face it its cheaper than most cute shinies) , i put in daycare , i get a lvl 1 growlithe , thats kinda ,,,,,,, bullshit ._. Only thing that would be bad about this is killing the cute shiny dittos making their prices much higher due to rarity and being killed for OT pre evo growlithe ;D other than that..i would love this ahahaha ....Plus you can just get a rat like you said and save the dittos life! Edited January 6, 2015 by doggydom Link to comment
CruelDeath Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Only thing that would be bad about this is killing the cute shiny dittos making their prices much higher due to rarity and being killed for OT pre evo growlithe ;D other than that..i would love this ahahaha ....Plus you can just get a rat like you said and save the dittos life! What if the arcanine was male :o Link to comment
SneaKyKhaLidA Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Wouldn't people make huge profits off of this though once its comp if they decide to sell it ? Link to comment
doggydom Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 What if the arcanine was male :o Bye Bye ditto haha Link to comment
Darkshade Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) Wouldn't people make huge profits off of this though once its comp if they decide to sell it ? They would make 'a profit', but the value of the competitiveness of the shiny Pokemon would largely be based on what it would cost to make the regular version of it competitive. The market would not be anywhere near the same as it is now; the 'competitiveness' of a shiny is based on an RNG roll currently, which adds a large amount of value to it. Even if people made a profit from selling the competitive shiny (which they would) they'd have put the effort in to get to that stage, instead of having won the lottery multiple times over. i think that it would more likely raise the value of the allready evo'd shinies, rather than lower the value of the prevo's. they would probably meet somewhere in the middle, leaning to the prevo's current value. this is just speculation ofcourse, but knowing shiny traders, they would get the most out of any situation. EDIT: You're correct, they'd likely meet somewhere inbetween Edited January 6, 2015 by Darkshade Link to comment
Munya Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 My personal idea (not necessarily a good one). There is an NPC who is looking for a shiny pokemon. He will trade an item (name doesnt matter but let's call it Shiny Paste) for the random shiny pokemon. Most likely one will be trading a common shiny like ratata, paras and tangela. Now you have the Shiny Paste. This is a held item exclusive to Ditto. When you have a valuable shiny you'd like to improve the IV's of to become competitive worthy, you are able to put that Shiny in the Daycare to breed with the Ditto holding Shiny Paste. Both parents are released and your offspring now is a guaranteed Shiny. But with the improved IV's obtained from the Ditto. Result: This idea will decrease the amount of common shinies in the economy, creating a shiny sink. (If there is no shiny sink, in the long term the market will be oversatured by shinies) All shinies will be raising in value because they will have another purpose other than collectable. Shiny pidgey do not deserve this, I would like to propose that pidgey and its evolutions be banned from being turned into paste Spaintakula 1 Link to comment
fredrichnietze Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 something i see that might be a problem is we currently use the ot to keep track of the number of shinys in the market, who has them, and whether the current owner is a scammer. if this were implemented, there would be no way to tell how many shinys there are in the market (and therefore rarity) and how people got them. with catch by dates and ot changeable as everything else, it becomes infinity easier to scam and sell high value pokemon, and it becomes much harder for shiny traders VD peeps to keep track of the rarity of pokemon. TechNine 1 Link to comment
JoshLindsay10 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 something i see that might be a problem is we currently use the ot to keep track of the number of shinys in the market, who has them, and whether the current owner is a scammer. if this were implemented, there would be no way to tell how many shinys there are in the market (and therefore rarity) and how people got them. with catch by dates and ot changeable as everything else, it becomes infinity easier to scam and sell high value pokemon, and it becomes much harder for shiny traders VD peeps to keep track of the rarity of pokemon. I dont use OT's to keep track of shinies... Link to comment
SneaKyKhaLidA Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I dont use OT's to keep track of shinies... Agreed ^^ you just know who holds them all the time . Link to comment
doggydom Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I love that Darkshade is talking about this. Gets my hopes up that this could be a possibility. *crosses fingers* xD Link to comment
Munya Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The more people i talk to and the more I think about it, the less I am actually in favor of shiny breeding, the people saying no on this are beating you people in favor of it out guys. Link to comment
flavajabari Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The more people i talk to and the more I think about it, the less I am actually in favor of shiny breeding, the people saying no on this are beating you people in favor of it out guys. well the people voting no on new breeding also beating the yes voters and its still happening. i think this could be fun but might need another step/level to it, so it's not too easy or whatever. dedegendut, doggydom and Eggplant 3 Link to comment
dedegendut Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 lol i can get an OT shiny now RysPicz 1 Link to comment
RysPicz Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 - Hey guys, I'm looking for my OT shiny Rhyhorn! I'll pay 3m for it! - Oh lol sorry man I just used your rhyhorn to breed myself an OT Smeargle... You will never have it back anymore, should've not sell it while you were poor Spaintakula and ShinyGligar 2 Link to comment
OldKeith Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 The more people i talk to and the more I think about it, the less I am actually in favor of shiny breeding, the people saying no on this are beating you people in favor of it out guys. Where exactly do you see this? Darkshade just posted a wall of text on why this would be an improvement. Link to comment
Draekyn Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 lol i can get an OT shiny now Link to comment
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