KingBowser Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 paying 200k to someone who can name a pokemon able to safely switch in against banded blaziken with equake, fire blast (weezing), thunderpunch and superpower. -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Arcanine: 100-118 (50.7 - 59.8%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Blaziken Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Weezing: 99-117 (57.5 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Wish salamence Arimanius and DoubleJ 2 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) paying 200k to someone who can name a pokemon able to safely switch in against banded blaziken with equake, fire blast (weezing), thunderpunch and superpower. -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Arcanine: 100-118 (50.7 - 59.8%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Blaziken Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Weezing: 99-117 (57.5 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Blaziken Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Claydol: 43-52 (25.7 - 31.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO 252 Atk Choice Band Blaziken Superpower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Claydol: 69-82 (41.3 - 49.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO Blaziken Earthquake vs. Levitate Claydol: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time Blaziken Thunder Punch vs. Claydol: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- aim for the horn next time 0 Atk Claydol Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 114-134 (73.5 - 86.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 Atk Claydol Earthquake vs. -1 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 170-204 (109.6 - 131.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO Pay me. Claydol #1. Edited September 25, 2015 by DoubleJ Robofiend and Vaeldras 2 Link to comment
raaidn Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 paying 200k to someone who can name a pokemon able to safely switch in against banded blaziken with equake, fire blast (weezing), thunderpunch and superpower. -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Arcanine: 100-118 (50.7 - 59.8%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Blaziken Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Weezing: 99-117 (57.5 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Claydol is that u? I'll be online tonite to collect dat cash 0 SpA Blaziken Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 158 SpD Claydol: 55-66 (32.9 - 39.5%) -- 14.7% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Superpower vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Claydol: 63-75 (37.7 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 fuck, should have specified "ou". But yeh, claydol is there. DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 fuck, should have specified "ou". But yeh, claydol is there. lf monies, claydol is actually a decent ou poke defensively with gengar gone Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 lf monies, claydol is actually a decent ou poke defensively with gengar gone Ye, but i doubt people will start running claydol because of blaziken. I'll give you the money the next time i log in Which is never DoubleJ 1 Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Ye, but i doubt people will start running claydol because of blaziken. I'll give you the money the next time i log in Which is never Aight just send me a pm whenever that is, and it's not just for Blaziken. It has remarkable synergy with defensive Arcanine. Claydol Item: Leftovers Nature: Sassy Ability: Levitate Earthquake Psychic Ice Beam Protect Protect can fuddle up the CB users like Metagross, Flygon, and Heracross, while it's dual STABs and access to Ice Beam can cover the tier fairly well. Porygon2 and Slowbro can switch in on it endlessly, but even then, maybe you could drop Psychic for Toxic just to mess them up. Watch out for Gyarados, so make sure you have a counter there. Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Aight just send me a pm whenever that is Already told you when. But yeh, you'd have to run at least 4 walls to have a solid core and it's really not my style. Unless bold porygon 2, too bad i never gave it a chance. Link to comment
codylramey Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Is blaze rly that good? I need a banded one. Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Is blaze rly that good? I need a banded one. Assuming you can guess every switch, yea. However quick attack saved me more than once, so i ran that instead of equake (hence getting screwed by knine). You can't have it all :( Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Slowbro and quagsire. Gib 200k Edit: too cool to read past the next page Edited September 25, 2015 by BurntZebra Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Slowbro and quagsire. Gib 200k Edit: too cool to read past the next page ur bad 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken ThunderPunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 90-108 (44.5 - 53.4%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery On a second thought i wouldn't call claydol a safe switch in, it can't come in more than once. But you get my point, no pokemon with more than 5% usage can safely switch in. We don't need gengar to stop the stall. Link to comment
BurntZebra Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 ur bad 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken ThunderPunch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 90-108 (44.5 - 53.4%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery On a second thought i wouldn't call claydol a safe switch in, it can't come in more than once. But you get my point, no pokemon with more than 5% usage can safely switch in. We don't need gengar to stop the stall. I feel pretty confident with my 98.8% to survive, or just go straight to dug when you tpunch KaynineXL, Orlandu, Robofiend and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) I feel pretty confident with my 98.8% to survive, or just go straight to dug when you tpunch Not only you need to be at full health, but then bro would be dead Edit: didn't understand what you meant with dug, lmao. Edited September 25, 2015 by Vaeldras Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Not only you need to be at full health, but then bro would be dead Edit: didn't understand what you meant with dug, lmao. you use tpunch twice in a row, you risk getting trapped by dug. Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 you use tpunch twice in a row, you risk getting trapped by dug. ik, didn't think about it at first. I stopped playing before the ban of gengar, so i missed that one. I guess chansey became the way to go sp wall and dugtrio had to step in, right? so what is it like now, trap and stall? Nontheless, blaziken should still be the most effective wallbreaker with metagross being so obvious. Now lemme check the usage list once more Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 ik, didn't think about it at first. I stopped playing before the ban of gengar, so i missed that one. I guess chansey became the way to go sp wall and dugtrio had to step in, right? so what is it like now, trap and stall? Nontheless, blaziken should still be the most effective wallbreaker with metagross being so obvious. Now lemme check the usage list once more I still like Pory more. Traps mags with hp fire, completely stops jolts with trace and it has some nice offense. Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I still like Pory more. Traps mags with hp fire, completely stops jolts with trace and it has some nice offense. More than what? than blazi? I mean, that's really not a wallbreaker, but that reverse trapping on magneton seems nice (you meant magneton with hp fire in it's moveset, right?). Does it work with trio too if bold pory? Anyway, how is ursa doing atm? Link to comment
NikhilR Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I mean, that's really not a wallbreaker, but that reverse trapping on magneton seems nice (you meant magneton with hp fire in it's moveset, right?). Anyway, how is ursa doing atm? He meant p2 with hp fire. A p2 without hp fire can't break Magneton. Ursa is nice but it can't break through venusaur / arcanine / slowbro as easily as anticipated. Robofiend 1 Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 He meant p2 with hp fire. A p2 without hp fire can't break Magneton. Ursa is nice but it can't break through venusaur / arcanine / slowbro as easily as anticipated. wtf can't pory learn flamethrower? showdown calc says it can Link to comment
DoubleJ Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 wtf can't pory learn flamethrower? showdown calc says it can Also says it can learn Superpower and Explosion, doesn't mean it actually can. Play the game brah. Robofiend and Vaeldras 2 Link to comment
BenGorgon Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) paying 200k to someone who can name a pokemon able to safely switch in against banded blaziken with equake, fire blast (weezing), thunderpunch and superpower. -1 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Arcanine: 100-118 (50.7 - 59.8%) -- 80.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Blaziken Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Weezing: 99-117 (57.5 - 68%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Erm, I am a little late but uh.... 4 Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 314-372 (104.3 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 131-155 (32.4 - 38.3%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 235-277 (58.1 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Just fyi, I do personally run an Impish CursePert Edited September 26, 2015 by BenGorgon Link to comment
Vaeldras Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Erm, I am a little late but uh.... 4 Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 314-372 (104.3 - 123.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 131-155 (32.4 - 38.3%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 235-277 (58.1 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Just fyi, I do personally run an Impish CursePert 252+ Atk Choice Band Blaziken Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 235-277 (58.1 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery Pretty safe indeed, especially when it doesn't have insta healing. Also cursepert :rolleyes: Link to comment
KaynineXL Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 More than what? than blazi? I mean, that's really not a wallbreaker, but that reverse trapping on magneton seems nice (you meant magneton with hp fire in it's moveset, right?). Does it work with trio too if bold pory? Anyway, how is ursa doing atm? No, you said "I guess chansey became the way to go sp wall and dugtrio had to step in, right?" So, I'm just saying I like Pory more than Chansey. HP Fire Pory traps Mag. Link to comment
codylramey Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 dugtrio can trap pory, survive icebeam, and 2hko. Not sure how realivant that is to the discussion about pory you guys are having. Link to comment
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